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Arians would be the perfect guy for the job, I just thought he was done coaching.

I always liked Arians. I remember when he was here. YTown and I kept saying what a good coach he was. Of course, Brown's fans and the local media hated him and ran his ass out of town.

Arians is the only tenured HC I would want to bring in... Anyone else, I'd rather bring up an offensive coordinator like Eric Bieniemy from KC.

I'm up for the college coaches too, but they are lower on my list.

What do we think the chances are the hoodie doesn't retire but leaves New England for a bigger challenge?

Why would Belichick want to come back to a place where the local media and fanbase hated him? I remember the stuffed dummy that had Belichick's name on it being hanged by fans in the stadium.

Our fans hate every coach after a year or two.

Arians would be my top choice, I thought he was done, but if he wanted to come back, i think he has the right mix to get this team going and Mayfield would excel under his tutelage

This going to be the new platform? Asking for a friend.

Tell your friend there's nothing new about it.

He would be one of my top choices if he decided to return to coaching

I did say bigger challege.

I love the Bruce Arians scheme very similar to Hue and with that said, I don't think we have the tackles to run it. It would be 5 and 7 step drops and get killed. What we were running yesterday with a lot of playaction and roll outs with a lot of screens and misdirection mixed in, is the scheme that I believe Baker and the players we have can run and be successful with.

Bruce Arians similar to Hue... Please elaborate,because I do not see any similarities.

I don't even know what a Hue scheme looks like, except on the press conferences.

I'd roll with Arians in a heartbeat.

We'd keep everything as-is and get a great HC

Bruce Arians says Browns only coaching job he would consider, touts Chuck Pagano

https://www.ohio.com/sports/20181105/bru...ts-chuck-pagano

Two-time NFL Coach of the Year Bruce Arians says Cleveland is the only place that could lure him out of retirement. Arians also touts Chuck Pagano, with whom he worked when the Browns led Pittsburgh in the only playoff game of the expansion era.

CLEVELAND Back in the days when Bruce Arians was offensive coordinator of a Browns team that forged a 17-point lead in a playoff game at Pittsburgh, he would joke about growing old.

“It has been a long time since I was the ‘boy wonder’ head coach at Temple,” he would say. He was 30 when the Owls hired him in 1983.

When Arians visited Cleveland on Sunday as a TV analyst, it had been a long time since he was fired after the Browns’ 2003 season, only to resurface in Pittsburgh and eventually coordinate the offense in the Steelers’ run to Super Bowls capping the 2008 and 2010 seasons.

Then, after Pittsburgh’s 2011 season, in a haunting reminder of Cleveland, in a move first presented (to his dismay) as a retirement, the Steelers fired him.

The “retiree” was on his way to being one of the more colorful head coaching personalities in recent NFL history. While that cycle ran its course in Indianapolis and Arizona, Cleveland remains a serious topic to him.

During a break from the CBS booth Sunday, in a conversation in the press box, we asked Arians if he would consider becoming a head coach again.

“Cleveland is the only job I would consider,” he said, and it was no surprise if you know his background.

Arians has made it clear Cleveland is the one head coaching job he really wanted. He has been around, seeing with his own eyes how it was when the old Browns were winners. His first NFL boss was Marty Schottenheimer, who told him stories.

Current Browns general manager John Dorsey has vowed to awaken this “sleeping giant.”

In 2002, Arians helped splash water on the giant’s face. The Browns reached the playoffs. They had a big lead at Pittsburgh. It got away. Years later, the giant snores.

Arians has told us his view of why the lone playoff game of the expansion era got away. Namely: Defensive coordinator Foge Fazio wanted to go for the jugular, attacking Pittsburgh, seizing the day. Davis wanted to play a prevent, and, being the head coach, prevent it was.

Davis relieved Fazio of his command during the second half.

Internal discord is not new. Fazio was fired immediately after Davis’ prevent didn’t work (the Browns lost 36-33). The 2003 season sagged. The day after it ended, Arians was fired and replaced by wideouts coach Terry Robiskie, who a year later became interim head coach after Davis quit late in the season.

Now, the Browns’ head coaching job again is in interim status. Gregg Williams is 0-1 after a 37-21 loss to Kansas City.

What does Arians imagine the Browns will do if they opt not to stay with Williams? Arians opined that the pool of candidates with a chance to succeed is “thin.”

Amid a clamor to hire a boy wonder, Arians says Cleveland instead needs an experienced NFL coach who would embrace Cleveland’s unique challenges.

Arians smiled when asked his age.

“Sixty-six,” he said.

Hire experience. We mentioned to Arians that a Mike Mularkey type might appeal to Dorsey. Mularkey has had three NFL head coaching jobs, most recently with a Titans team that beat the Chiefs in a playoff game in January.

“My guy would be Chuck Pagano,” Arians said.

Pagano, 58, was hired in Cleveland the same year as Arians, 2001. He lasted through the 2004 season, eventually became defensive coordinator in Baltimore, then was hired as head coach of the Colts. Pagano hired the “retired” Arians as offensive coordinator for rookie No. 1 overall pick Andrew Luck (Arians had been Colts “OC” in 1998, when Peyton Manning was a rookie No. 1 overall pick).

After Pagano was diagnosed with leukemia. Arians became interim head coach in Week 5, and the Colts had a 9-3 record on his watch.

Pagano healed and was Indy’s head coach through 2017, fired with a record of 56-46, including 3-3 in the playoffs.

The 2012 Colts were the talk of the league. The Pagano-Arians tag team took over a team that had gone 2-14 and, under great duress, went 11-5.

Cleveland had an opening in 2013. Arians wanted in. After the new Browns owners appointed Rob Chudzinski, Arians took his first full-time NFL head coaching job with the Cardinals, who had posted one 10-win season in the previous 25 years.

Arians put up records of 10-6, 11-5, 13-3, 7-8-1 and 8-8. After the 2017 season, he actually did retire.

As he mentioned, there is one job for which he would consider coming out of retirement.

What about Pagano? His background is on defense, in a league that has been taken over by offense.

Hiring Pagano might be a means of securing a certain former boy wonder as offensive coordinator.

Man, I wanted Arians years ago, and I would be extremely happy to see him as the HC in Cleveland.

#BringBackChud

Would hate to see the overlap of Browns players who originally played for Chud vs who still plays for us today. I think it might be 0

Who the heck was our first coach after The Return?

Chris Palmer, right? Is he still alive? What's he doing these days?
Maybe we should just restart the cycle... like one of those TV sitcoms where they go back in time to try to fix things.




Interesting Note 1: We have now had as many Head Coaches after The Return as we had through all of history prior to The Move.

Interesting Note 2: We have one Head Coach with the first name "Gregg" and one coach with the surname "Gregg". I approve.

Interesting Note 3: Our two winningest coaches since The Return each have 24 wins (Butch & Romeo), but Butch is the only coach with a record better than .375.

I don't want anything to do with Chuck Pagano as a HC. He was terrible at Indy.

he had 1 losing season in 6 years...after taking over a team that won 2 games...i'd take that . He's not my first choice but he's not horrible. BA/CP team would be interesting

He’d be pretty near the bottom of my list. He is the coach who helped waste Andrew Luck in my mind.

It's along thread and I have not read through all of it..Sorry.

Has Bruce Arians as HC and Chuck Pagano as DC been mentioned ? If Kitchens works out well for Baker then Arians may keep him as OC since they have history together.

I understand both names are older coaches and I believe with some health issues but it may be considered...

never mind I just saw the conversation...lol

LOVE the Ariana idea ...

MORE IMPORTANTLY ...

He confirmed what we all ready knew ... THIS WILL BE A HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER JOB ... oh wait ... thats not correct .... he actually said

THE MOST HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER JOB ....

And it ain’t cause of the thief ... thats how sweet were set up ,,,

We’ll have our pick of the liter DESPITE THE THIEF and his MISSES .....

My good friend Natalie and I would go to a Colts game once a year being her team. I never understood why they kept playing Luck when his shoulder was bad..I would yell take him out and save him..

As always though it could of been Israys saying to keep him in or else.... He makes Jimmy look good..

I believe he did say the only job he wants is the Browns job.. THats a big start for this team...

#chudwasadud

Worst HC since the return, including Hue.

That dud of a coach won more games in one season than Hue did in three.

Chud got a raw deal here. He had a brilliant offensive mind and was one of the best coaches in the league at game decisions (4th downs and such).

He needed to be firmer with the players. At times it appeared the players didn't respect him and that obviously isn't a good sign.

He should have gotten another year though, to see what he could do and how much he would improve. It was a total bush league move by Haslam to can him after one season.

He was cursed with Weeden. He was our best HC since the return without a doubt.

I am down with that.

Why wait, hire him now.

It wouldn't be a bad thing if he brought Todd Bowles with him after the Jets fire him this off-season.

Arians HC

Kitchens OC

Williams DC


Keep it seemless

Time to lock this thread. LOL

Ask Baker who he wants and go get that guy. Coach and QB, that's the only relationship we need to worry about for the next ten years or so.

With Bruce you know that coaching won’t be the reason we aren’t winning. Someone tell Bruce the fans approve and start looking at houses in strongsville

Guarantee William's doesn't stay on as DC if he doesn't get the HC gig. Not happening.

If Arians becomes the coach and he doesn't want to stay as DC then piss on him.

At the risk of being called an "Age-ist", I think we should be looking for someone younger than 66.

I Disagree...

One thing Arians said while lobbying for the job stood out to me, the part where he stated the Browns need a heavily experienced hand to turn things around. Someone proven. I actually agree with that, fully. The Browns need a guy experienced in building teams, turning things around and making QB's. That would be Mr. Arians.

I love that idea. Bring Mr. Arians in for 3-5 years, let him and Dorsey get the ship righted and in the meantime get a young intelligent coordinator under his wing he can mentor and after that period pass the torch to.