@KeithBritton86 5m5 minutes ago More .@RobertKlemko on @BullandFox, says #Browns GM John Dorsey was talking with coaches during practice today, in locker room talking to players after practice. Handed center JC Tretter a hard boiled egg. JC asked “what’s this?”. Dorsey replied, “it’s because you’re f***in soft”
This tweet has been deleted. I'm hoping if true it was an inside joke.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Baker Mayfield lobbies hard for more Greg Robinson at left tackle
By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com
CLEVELAND, Ohio — Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield lobbied hard for more Greg Robinson at left tackle after Sunday’s 37-21 loss to the Chiefs.
On two occasions, Mayfield mentioned Robinson — who subbed for an ill Desmond Harrison — when asked about positives from the game.
“Greg Robinson starting at left tackle and playing well,’’ said Mayfield, citing Robinson as the first good thing to come out of the loss, which dropped the Browns to 2-6-1.
Earlier in his press conference, Mayfield said, “I say there was a lot to build on. I mean, we had Greg Robinson start at left tackle. He played well. Stuff like that. There's promise right there. We've just got to be able to see that positive because you know you very well could throw in the towel at this point, but that's not what we're going to do. That's not what we're about.”
Harrison came down with an undisclosed illness on Friday and was inactive for the game. He had been struggling at left tackle of late, especially during last week’s 33-18 loss to the Steelers, when he resorted to holding to protect Mayfield.
The Browns may have considered going to Robinson soon anyway to give the rookie a break, but the illness accelerated the process.
Harrison, who shows promise athletically but is extremely raw, may have hit the rookie wall before he got sick this week. Before playing at West Georgia last season, he hadn’t played football in three seasons.
Robinson, the 2014 No. 2 overall pick of the Rams when interim head coach Gregg Williams was there, was signed by the Browns as a free agent in June, but was set back in camp by a concussion. The Browns became enamored with Harrison’s athleticism, but there’s obviously a lot more than goes into playing the position.
Not a guru by any stretch or measure, but I thought he did alright overall. He did get fooled on inside pass rush, but on one I noted, he was wrong, but fully engaged with his guy straightened up and had good leverage and form. Rolling mayfield would have helped or a back. Robinson was really working his position. Fewer penalties. I liked what I saw. Not sure hamilton is ready yet. I would like to see a guru break this down, and I really am disappointed in Hubbard. Is he stacking up? We need improvement at both O Tackles IMO.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield lobbied hard for more Greg Robinson at left tackle after Sunday’s 37-21 loss to the Chiefs.
I don't think Baker's quotes fit the headline. I saw two positive quotes, but I didn't see Baker lobbying for more Greg Robinson.
I really hate the media. They are so irresponsible. If Baker's teammates just read the title, that would almost assuredly lead them to being upset w/Baker.
Baker praised Robinson and that is cool, but he was not "lobbying" for one guy over another. That would not play well in the locker room.
I read a comment or two on the Postgame thread about the OL playing poorly yesterday. I could not disagree more.
The OL played a very good game and gave Baker plenty of time to throw. They also opened up some good holes in the running game. The timing and downfield blocking on the screens was very good.
Considering that the Browns played from behind, the OL's pass pro was outstanding. Yeah, they gave up some sacks but that is going to happen. I was actually surprised by how well the line played yesterday.
Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield lobbied hard for more Greg Robinson at left tackle after Sunday’s 37-21 loss to the Chiefs.
I don't think Baker's quotes fit the headline. I saw two positive quotes, but I didn't see Baker lobbying for more Greg Robinson.
I really hate the media. They are so irresponsible. If Baker's teammates just read the title, that would almost assuredly lead them to being upset w/Baker.
Baker praised Robinson and that is cool, but he was not "lobbying" for one guy over another. That would not play well in the locker room.
I was just going to say the same thing. Baker gave Robinson props for going in there and filling in well enough. There's an ocean of difference between that and lobbying for Robinson.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
I think one of the problems w/journalism is that the reporter writes the article and then an editor writes the title for the article.
Well, it used to be that way when newspapers ruled the day. I imagine it is still the same. Maybe not? Either way, it was a poor title and Baker doesn't need that kind of crap.
When we don't have a HOFER LT the problem is the QB, when we have it the problem is the QB...
Our OL is much better than the rest of the team, I actually think they are playing very good. They actually create holes for the running game....
Just give time to Baker, and get some depth on the OL, upgrades are always welcomed, but do not over invest on the OL, specially in pass protection, we have done that...
wonder if Harrison would be an upgrade over hubbard at RT
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
When we don't have a HOFER LT the problem is the QB, when we have it the problem is the QB...
Our OL is much better than the rest of the team, I actually think they are playing very good. They actually create holes for the running game....
Just give time to Baker, and get some depth on the OL, upgrades are always welcomed, but do not over invest on the OL, specially in pass protection, we have done that...
Shouldn't this be in purple
John 3:16 Jesus said "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
When we don't have a HOFER LT the problem is the QB, when we have it the problem is the QB...
Our OL is much better than the rest of the team, I actually think they are playing very good. They actually create holes for the running game....
Just give time to Baker, and get some depth on the OL, upgrades are always welcomed, but do not over invest on the OL, specially in pass protection, we have done that...
Shouldn't this be in purple
I actually think rushing stats are a bit more telling of the quality of the OL than pass protection.
And I do not want to be bashing on BM,because he is just a rookie,and he is doing good, but c'mon...he can and will do a much better job.
I actually enjoy more the OL play now, than 3/4 years ago, they are limited but they try harder.
It's whiffs like that why they gambled on going with the rookie. Robinson was really kinda horrible in preseason.
Harrison started off on fire, but has since come back down to earth. He's been exposed a bit the past few weeks and taken some heavy lumps.
Whether or not Harrison is the long term answer at LT is uncertain, but I'm definitely sure that Robinson is not.
I did not focus on him much at all yesterday, and I don't recall seeing/hearing him get called out more than once, but I know what I saw in preseason and I did not like it.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
It's whiffs like that why they gambled on going with the rookie. Robinson was really kinda horrible in preseason.
Harrison started off on fire, but has since come back down to earth. He's been exposed a bit the past few weeks and taken some heavy lumps.
Whether or not Harrison is the long term answer at LT is uncertain, but I'm definitely sure that Robinson is not.
I did not focus on him much at all yesterday, and I don't recall seeing/hearing him get called out more than once, but I know what I saw in preseason and I did not like it.
I thought robinson was out in preseason with concussion?
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
It's whiffs like that why they gambled on going with the rookie. Robinson was really kinda horrible in preseason.
Harrison started off on fire, but has since come back down to earth. He's been exposed a bit the past few weeks and taken some heavy lumps.
Whether or not Harrison is the long term answer at LT is uncertain, but I'm definitely sure that Robinson is not.
I did not focus on him much at all yesterday, and I don't recall seeing/hearing him get called out more than once, but I know what I saw in preseason and I did not like it.
I thought robinson was out in preseason with concussion?
Maybe I'm misremembering?? ..... I thought it was Robinson that sucked all preseason and it was Harrison that was injured??
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
OL isn’t our issue. Look at the Rams and Chiefs. Weapons everywhere. That makes any QB or line better. Goff was horrific as a rookie. I pray we make similar moves and Mayfield makes a similar leap. You can’t have HOF players across the board. I think our RT has been disappointing though.
As long Robinson doesn't get Baker killed, I'm ok with this. Harrison was out sick this Sunday, but he has performed more than admirably. If he ends up getting shut down for the year, I don't think it will hinder his development. He got invaluable snaps against top-tier edge rushers. He had some ups and downs, and nothing but positive should be taken from that.
Imagine him with an offseason+ of NFL training/strengthening and technique work... he should be oozing confidence going into next season.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Harrison is the 62nd ranked tackle in the NFL. I think our tackles are the worst 2 in the league as a combo goes. Robinson was much better in keeping baker clean. I roll with Robinson
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
@KeithBritton86 5m5 minutes ago More .@RobertKlemko on @BullandFox, says #Browns GM John Dorsey was talking with coaches during practice today, in locker room talking to players after practice. Handed center JC Tretter a hard boiled egg. JC asked “what’s this?”. Dorsey replied, “it’s because you’re f***in soft”
This tweet has been deleted. I'm hoping if true it was an inside joke.
This didn't get much traction.
I hope it's not true.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
@KeithBritton86 5m5 minutes ago More .@RobertKlemko on @BullandFox, says #Browns GM John Dorsey was talking with coaches during practice today, in locker room talking to players after practice. Handed center JC Tretter a hard boiled egg. JC asked “what’s this?”. Dorsey replied, “it’s because you’re f***in soft”
This tweet has been deleted. I'm hoping if true it was an inside joke.
This didn't get much traction.
I hope it's not true.
oh snap.. guess we will find out this offseason if JC isn't here anymore. Sadly, John seems exactly like the kind of guy that would do this. He doesn't seem to care what people think and will say what's on his mind. Or maybe its some type of motivational technique lol
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
Robinson has a history in this league. I don't think it is wise to look at just one game.
Im not, but at the same time...he has a history in the league. he's been a starter, plenty of tape on him.. Probably a little easier to help him with scheme and chips knowing where he needs the most help. Harrison hit the rookie wall. I think given an offseason with time in weight room he'll be much better next year.
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
It's interesting that phrases such as "decisions becoming less collaborative," "decisions were being made that seemed to come out of nowhere," and "a level of disorganization" were in that article and how those terms were used in the PC that was recently held in Cleveland.
It was also interesting to read this:
Quote:
The truth is, some of this traces back to a shift in the organizational model in 2013. Scott Pioli was the only person on the football side reporting to Hunt from 2009-12, and Hunt changed that, in part, because he wanted more oversight. So Reid, Dorsey and president Mark Donovan would all report to Hunt, as Hunt was determined not to let problems fester as they had with Pioli and ex-coach Todd Haley.
Maybe Greg Robinson is ready to live up to his drafted status #2 overall pick I believe, how great would that would be for the Browns ...
John 3:16 Jesus said "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
Not an easy transition from left to right Tackle as there has to be entire switch in footwork. A lot of thinking involved in the transition and OL you got to be natural not thinking about it.
But I haven't liked Hubbards last few games he definitely has not looked well and quite frankly I hope the next few years we invest heavily into both OT positions.
jmho...Harrison could become good but its not there yet. we will see.
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