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Mister Rogers On THE WALL


Mister Rogers denounces white nationalism/white supremacy.


Since you watched that, also know that Francois Clemmons is also gay. Fred Rogers knew of this, grew in his beliefs towards the LGBTQ community, and shared his compassion for the LGBTQ community through this song. He talked of love without reading fire and brimstone.

Further lessons from Fred Rogers on the LGBTQ+ community
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Though evangelicals would sometimes write to him asking him to condemn homosexuality, Rogers never would, instead saying he — and God — loved everyone just as they were. But this wasn’t the extent of Mister Rogers’ gay activism. As it turns out, he’d been an ally since the 1960s.

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A practicing Presbyterian minister came to these views. What is preventing society from seeing the world as Fred Rogers saw it?

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What makes you think "society" does/has not?

In my life, and my circle, the VAST and OVERWHELMING majority have no issues with LGBTQ or other races/ethnic groups. Hell, even my 65 year old father whom 25 years ago thought being gay was a sin, now has a couple gay friends.

times have changed, people have changed. Are there still people out there that have not, absolutely....but I am telling you the MEDIA has overstated the numbers of these few feed into divisive-ness.

I am 33 years old. I have never seen someone in a white hood. I have never seen a white supremacist rally unless CNN was showing it. I have never witnessed a person getting beat up simply because he was gay. I have seen a gay guy get beat up, because he ran his mouth at a bar and deserved to get knocked out for it. Doesn't mean it was a hate crime though.

Heck, I have never seen any of those things, and I have lived in WV for 6 years!

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You're only 33? You're still a pup! wink

I've seen racism from several sides in my life. I've seen the hoods, white supremacy, black and hispanic neighborhood biases... I don't care who you are or what color you are, racism is ugly.

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You're only 33? You're still a pup! wink

I've seen racism from several sides in my life. I've seen the hoods, white supremacy, black and hispanic neighborhood biases... I don't care who you are or what color you are, racism is ugly.

I didn't say I never seen racism. I just have never seen it to the extent the media portrays us to believe its happening on such a massively overt scale that is reported. I also believe that real racism and real racist have received a pass because we use the term to cry wolf at anything we don't like. It actually empowers the true racist to be more openly racist as they will use that fact to their advantage.

My point is, although it is there, its a fraction of what we are lead to believe it really is.

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They are chasing the racist boogyman. It's become an outright dog whistle for anti white.

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They are chasing the racist boogyman. It's become an outright dog whistle for anti white.


What does the “anti-white” or “racist boogeyman” have to do with a Republican arguing against intolerance or silly borderwalls.

Please watch the educational videos in the first post.

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Originally Posted By: willitevachange

times have changed, people have changed. Are there still people out there that have not, absolutely....but I am telling you the MEDIA has overstated the numbers of these few feed into divisive-ness.

I am 33 years old. I have never seen someone in a white hood. I have never seen a white supremacist rally unless CNN was showing it. I have never witnessed a person getting beat up simply because he was gay. I have seen a gay guy get beat up, because he ran his mouth at a bar and deserved to get knocked out for it. Doesn't mean it was a hate crime though.


LGBTQ+ hate crimes on the rise

Homicides towards LGBTQ+ communities increased in 2017. These specifically targeted that community.

Increase of hate crimes towards LGBTQ+ community since 2016. (FBI Report)

...and these are just a few on the first page of a google search.

I've routinely see people on this very website tell those who are part of the LGBTQ+ community they will go to hell. A preacher of the Presbyterian denomination never preached such things. Behavior could change here, too.

You can also look into the Jim Crow-esque bathroom bills that discriminate and dehumanize trans-gender individuals.

We've got a long way to go on these issues. Republicans should listen to one of their own in Fred Rogers on these subjects.
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I am 33 years old. I have never seen someone in a white hood. I have never seen a white supremacist rally unless CNN was showing it.


White supremacists don't wear hoods today. They dress in plain clothes like anyone else. They take positions to try and keep America white. Rewatch the video on how Mr. Rogers talks about a border wall. There's a scary amount of parallels to today's world. White supremacists are afraid of what change "the other" will bring.

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I have seen a gay guy get beat up, because he ran his mouth at a bar and deserved to get knocked out for it.


So you condone senseless violence because someone said something stupid?

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Don't confuse the topic with facts.

Anti-Semitic incidents spike 57 percent in 2017, report says

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anti-semitic-incidents-spike-57-percent-in-2017-report-says/


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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist


White supremacists don't wear hoods today. They dress in plain clothes like anyone else. They take positions to try and keep America white.


Am I missing something here?

White Supremacists push to keep America white while you constantly push to make America brown.

And the difference is?

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Maybe you should study WW2 to see the difference.


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Perhaps you need to learn that a racist is a racist is a racist. tsktsk

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Perhaps you need to learn that a racist is a racist is a racist. tsktsk


And they come in all colors, nationalities and religions so do a lot of good non racist people ...


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Perhaps you need to learn that a racist is a racist is a racist. tsktsk


And they come in all colors, nationalities and religions so do a lot of good non racist people ...


I agree PastorMarc, now get out of Palus Politicus before you become tainted! rofl

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Perhaps you need to learn that a racist is a racist is a racist. tsktsk


You do realize that those who don not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, right?

If you can show me where millions of people have been slaughtered and the world was attempted to be conquered by any other racist regimes I'll be glad to listen.


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According to the works of the Iranian historian Rashid al-Din (1247–1318), the Mongols killed more than 700,000 people in Merv and more than a million in Nishapur. The total population of Persia may have dropped from 2,500,000 to 250,000 as a result of mass extermination and famine.

Genghis Khan hated Muslims and Persians.

The Ottoman rulers, like most of their subjects, were Muslim.
The Armmenians were Christian.
The Armenian genocide was the ruthless slaughter of millions of Armenians by the Turks of the Ottoman Empire. In 1915, during World War I, leaders of the Turkish government set in motion a plan to expel and massacre Armenians. By the early 1920s, when the massacres and deportations finally ended, between 600,000 and 1.5 million Armenians were dead, with many more forcibly removed from the country

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Perhaps you need to learn that a racist is a racist is a racist. tsktsk


You do realize that those who don not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, right?


That's why they shouldn't be ripping down statues and defacing other historic monument whether you agree with them or not.

They are a reminder of he past and learn from it.

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Yeah, monuments equal history. Too bad you can't go to museums and learn history in class rooms. Maybe we should erect monuments of Hitler so we don't forget about WW2?


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1. Demonizing a group of people based on their accumulated wealth.
2. Blaming all of a countries problems on one group of people.
3. Demonizing a group of people based on their religious beliefs
4. Demonizing Capitalists
5. Demonizing people who think differently

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Yeah, monuments equal history. Too bad you can't go to museums and learn history in class rooms. Maybe we should erect monuments of Hitler so we don't forget about WW2?


Not everyone has access to a museum, the monuments are there and are free to look and and read the history of it. thumbsup

The classrooms are bias and only teach what they feel is relevant. thumbsdown

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But what about the Irish?


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
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White supremacists don't wear hoods today. They dress in plain clothes like anyone else. They take positions to try and keep America white.


Am I missing something here?

White Supremacists push to keep America white while you constantly push to make America brown.

And the difference is?


This is such a horrifying post for so many reasons. I'm absolutely disgusted that you think that's what Rocket is doing and that you would ever imply that what a white supremacist does is equivalent to what Rocket does. We have all seen your blase reactions to hate crimes, and constant redirection to 'the left, but to watch you openly erase them? For shame. Here I thought you were trolling with your dumb opinions. I wish that were the case.


I'm also not surprised that Vambo liked your post. You guys have always been two peas in a pod inside a compost bin.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Perhaps you need to learn that a racist is a racist is a racist. tsktsk


You do realize that those who don not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, right?


That's why they shouldn't be ripping down statues and defacing other historic monument whether you agree with them or not.

They are a reminder of he past and learn from it.


What exactly are you trying to learn from looking at statues of people who fought a war to enslave a race of people?

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White or Black Irish?

Another theory of the origin of the term "Black Irish" is that these people were descendants of Spanish traders who settled in Ireland and even descendants of the few Spanish sailors who were washed up on the west coast of Ireland after the disaster of the Spanish Armada of 1588.
https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/who-were-the-black-irish

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Propaganda really don't help your cause. Making excuses to have racist monuments in public holds no real validity.


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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist


White supremacists don't wear hoods today. They dress in plain clothes like anyone else. They take positions to try and keep America white.


Am I missing something here?

White Supremacists push to keep America white while you constantly push to make America brown.

And the difference is?


This is such a horrifying post for so many reasons. I'm absolutely disgusted that you think that's what Rocket is doing and that you would ever imply that what a white supremacist does is equivalent to what Rocket does. We have all seen your blase reactions to hate crimes, and constant redirection to 'the left, but to watch you openly erase them? For shame. Here I thought you were trolling with your dumb opinions. I wish that were the case.


I'm also not surprised that Vambo liked your post. You guys have always been two peas in a pod inside a compost bin.


A racist is a racist is a racist. You guys hating on whites over the years is racist.
Your constant promotion of the browning of America is racist.

Racist-
1. a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

Own it.

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i'm glad trump won. now we know who all the racist are. they don't hide anymore.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist


White supremacists don't wear hoods today. They dress in plain clothes like anyone else. They take positions to try and keep America white.


Am I missing something here?

White Supremacists push to keep America white while you constantly push to make America brown.

And the difference is?


This is such a horrifying post for so many reasons. I'm absolutely disgusted that you think that's what Rocket is doing and that you would ever imply that what a white supremacist does is equivalent to what Rocket does. We have all seen your blase reactions to hate crimes, and constant redirection to 'the left, but to watch you openly erase them? For shame. Here I thought you were trolling with your dumb opinions. I wish that were the case.


I'm also not surprised that Vambo liked your post. You guys have always been two peas in a pod inside a compost bin.


A racist is a racist is a racist. You guys hating on whites over the years is racist.
Your constant promotion of the browning of America is racist.

Racist-
1. a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

Own it.



I think you need to come to terms with your own racism and stop trying to change the subject. Are you really standing by your words?

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He is and it speaks volumes.


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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist


White supremacists don't wear hoods today. They dress in plain clothes like anyone else. They take positions to try and keep America white.


Am I missing something here?

White Supremacists push to keep America white while you constantly push to make America brown.

And the difference is?


This is such a horrifying post for so many reasons. I'm absolutely disgusted that you think that's what Rocket is doing and that you would ever imply that what a white supremacist does is equivalent to what Rocket does. We have all seen your blase reactions to hate crimes, and constant redirection to 'the left, but to watch you openly erase them? For shame. Here I thought you were trolling with your dumb opinions. I wish that were the case.


I'm also not surprised that Vambo liked your post. You guys have always been two peas in a pod inside a compost bin.


A racist is a racist is a racist. You guys hating on whites over the years is racist.
Your constant promotion of the browning of America is racist.

Racist-
1. a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

Own it.



I think you need to come to terms with your own racism and stop trying to change the subject. Are you really standing by your words?


Here is a good example of your racism...

You guys go on and on about the bad white people and Native Americans but you never mention the Buffalo soldiers.

Buffalo soldiers were African American soldiers who mainly served on the Western frontier following the American Civil War. In 1866, six all-black cavalry and infantry regiments were created after Congress passed the Army Organization Act. Their main tasks were to help control the Native Americans of the Plains, capture cattle rustlers and thieves and protect settlers, stagecoaches, wagon trains and railroad crews along the Western front.
https://www.history.com/topics/westward-expansion/buffalo-soldiers

I guess you would call that the Browning of the Military where I would call it Americans building a Nation.

No one knows for certain why, but the soldiers of the all-black 9th and 10th Cavalry Regiments were dubbed “buffalo soldiers” by the Native Americans they encountered.

One theory claims the nickname arose because the soldiers’ dark, curly hair resembled the fur of a buffalo. Another assumption is the soldiers fought so valiantly and fiercely that the Indians revered them as they did the mighty buffalo.

Whatever the reason, the name stuck, and African American regiments formed in 1866, including the 24th and 25th Infantry (which were consolidated from four regiments) became known as buffalo soldiers.
https://www.history.com/topics/westward-expansion/buffalo-soldiers

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Today's Lesson on Racism, Genocide, and American History is now closed.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist


White supremacists don't wear hoods today. They dress in plain clothes like anyone else. They take positions to try and keep America white.


Am I missing something here?

White Supremacists push to keep America white while you constantly push to make America brown.

And the difference is?


This is such a horrifying post for so many reasons. I'm absolutely disgusted that you think that's what Rocket is doing and that you would ever imply that what a white supremacist does is equivalent to what Rocket does. We have all seen your blase reactions to hate crimes, and constant redirection to 'the left, but to watch you openly erase them? For shame. Here I thought you were trolling with your dumb opinions. I wish that were the case.


I'm also not surprised that Vambo liked your post. You guys have always been two peas in a pod inside a compost bin.


A racist is a racist is a racist. You guys hating on whites over the years is racist.
Your constant promotion of the browning of America is racist.

Racist-
1. a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

Own it.



I think you need to come to terms with your own racism and stop trying to change the subject. Are you really standing by your words?


Here is a good example of your racism...

You guys go on and on about the bad white people and Native Americans but you never mention the Buffalo soldiers.

Buffalo soldiers were African American soldiers who mainly served on the Western frontier following the American Civil War. In 1866, six all-black cavalry and infantry regiments were created after Congress passed the Army Organization Act. Their main tasks were to help control the Native Americans of the Plains, capture cattle rustlers and thieves and protect settlers, stagecoaches, wagon trains and railroad crews along the Western front.
https://www.history.com/topics/westward-expansion/buffalo-soldiers

You're right. In fact, I've never seen anyone talk about it on DT, ever. So I just did a search through the last ten years of the forum and have found that only you have mentioned them in replies to things other people have said. If you really want to talk about it so badly then please start a thread about it and I'd gladly participate. I don't think we talk about instances of minority on minority racial hatred enough. Until then, I would really like you to respond to my post smile

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Until then, I would really like you to respond to my post smile


Your wish is my command...

Science has told us we are all descended from one common Mother in Africa and they have named her eve.

So why do you guys insist on ranting about the skin pigmentation of eve's kids?

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Until then, I would really like you to respond to my post smile


Your wish is my command...

Science has told us we are all descended from one common Mother in Africa and they have named her eve.

So why do you guys insist on ranting about the skin pigmentation of eve's kids?


I've only made two posts and only one contained a question. Here it is for a reminder:
Are you really standing by your words?

And here were your words:

Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist


White supremacists don't wear hoods today. They dress in plain clothes like anyone else. They take positions to try and keep America white.


Am I missing something here?

White Supremacists push to keep America white while you constantly push to make America brown.

And the difference is?

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Also cute editing your post to add a bunch of stuff in. Just make a new post. You made another new post just to flex.

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Also cute editing your post to add a bunch of stuff in. Just make a new post. You made another new post just to flex.


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Propaganda really don't help your cause. Making excuses to have racist monuments in public holds no real validity.


You have a closed mind no point in any further discussion.

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How many of you actually watched the videos or read the link in my original post?

All of these loud dog whistles on this website need to go away.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist


White supremacists don't wear hoods today. They dress in plain clothes like anyone else. They take positions to try and keep America white.


Am I missing something here?

White Supremacists push to keep America white while you constantly push to make America brown.

And the difference is?


This is such a horrifying post for so many reasons. I'm absolutely disgusted that you think that's what Rocket is doing and that you would ever imply that what a white supremacist does is equivalent to what Rocket does. We have all seen your blase reactions to hate crimes, and constant redirection to 'the left, but to watch you openly erase them? For shame. Here I thought you were trolling with your dumb opinions. I wish that were the case.


I'm also not surprised that Vambo liked your post. You guys have always been two peas in a pod inside a compost bin.


A racist is a racist is a racist. You guys hating on whites over the years is racist.
Your constant promotion of the browning of America is racist.

Racist-
1. a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

Own it.



Please state factual instances where I hate on white people. I’ll be waiting.

You’re the one always blowing the dog whistle around here.

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