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As soon as i asked i figured gurley was why ...

Right now i’m going with hunt and Gordon ... that may change ...

Who u looking at elsewhere ...

Right now i have Marietto .. fitz ... Valdez scandling and Boyd with AP as my flex ...

That’ll change ... just not sure how yet ...

Thoughts? ...

What r u looking at?

My thoughts on that have changed over the years ... i used to think the same way ...

Thing is ... to get that big lead there gonna gain a lot of yards and score a lot of points ... whats it matter of they do it over 42 minutes or 60? ...

Matter of fact .. the BLOWOUT guarantees there going to score a bunch of points ... witch is what we want .... no?

Cash Game Lineup. Disclaimer: It will absolutely change...I'm not a fan of it.

QB: M. Mariota
RB: D. Lewis
RB: M. Gordon
WR: T. Boyd
WR: M. Harris
WR: M. Valdes-Scantling
TE: B. Watson
FL: T. Gurley
DF: Rams

U gonna come down off Gurley or Gordon or neither?

U gonna stay with Lewis if Michel is active?

I’m struggling also ... u can’t even really fit Gordon and hunt in and have good WR’s ...

Tough week in that regard ...

I really like fitz this week ...

I think you're referring to James White if Michel is active. Lewis is with the Titans.

Right now, I have both in my lineup.

I'm with you there normally. In fact, I think it's usually better. However, Melvin is giving me pause for a few reasons. Mainly, he has a very capable back up and is recently coming off an injury. I'm not sure they'll push him like a normal player if they're up big. My second thought plays into that, it is that Oakland has completely given up. Every level of their defense. I wouldn't be shocked if Rivers connects on a few deep tds thoughtout the first half, and Gordon won't get as many opportunities because of that and due to a blow out. Ofc Gordon has the talent to take the first pass he catches to the house, so it was hard for me to decide. But I think his cost is a little too high compared to the amount of opportunities I think he might get.


I have a question. How are we feeling about Perriman at 3k? 2 catches on 6 targets last week, and Williams spoke highly of him yesterday and said he was getting the playbook.

I hope u made better changes at WR than i did ... mine stunk and i went with Hunt over Gurley to save $$$ ... MORON ... SELF INFLICTED WOUND ... *LOL* ...

Only played 3 pay on DK ... didnt like my teams ... lost them all ...

Won one on fanduel ... fortunately AGAIN for me it was my $5 double up ... played $12 and won that one for $10 so I only lost $2 ...

Played 6 there ... liked there pricing more ... didnt fare hardly any better ... shows what i know ... *L* ..... just got lucky and won the right one ... played a $3 double up and a combo of $1 double ups and tournie’s ...

I played

Marriotto ... in most if not all ... had some Smith but took him out ..

Gordon in all ...
Hunt in most ... some Duke in tourny’s ... this was mistake #1 ..
Lewis in a lot .... mistake #2 ...

Fitz in all ... mistake #3 ...
MVS in most ... the theme should be clear by now .. *L* ...
Boyd and Landry dispersed evenly ...
quite a bit of M. Harris from Wash ..
Some Josh Gordon and a few other assorted non producing stiffs mixed in ...

Njoku is about 70% and Hooper in the other 30% .. upside down dummy ..

Chiefs, bills and bears D ...

Bad bad week for me ... worst one yet as far as scores go ... DISMALL ...

Bad week #3 for me this season. I broke even in tournaments but missed all cash lines in double ups except for one. I missed most cash lines by 2 points so it was very frustrating. I did ok in head-to-head contests. I had won all the money in the final quarter for the Rams- Seahawks game and many people had Mike Davis, I did not. His points put other contest players over the edge, removed points from my defense and I failed to make the cash line.

Overall ROI = -52%

Cash Lineup- 127.82
QB: M. Mariota- 22.32
RB: K. Hunt- 11.60
RB: D. Lewis- 8.80
WR: T. Boyd- 9.50
WR: M. Valdez-Scandling- 10.40
WR: M. Harris- 10.60
TE: A. Hooper- 21.60
FL: T. Gurley- 28.00
DF: Rams-5.00

Hunt was a clear bust. I had struggled between he and Gordon for the same game script reasons but ultimately went for Hunt because of price and it allowed to to grab Hooper over Watson who I had as the TE. Boyd, too, failed to make value. That's pretty much the beginning and end of it all.

Best Tournament Lineup- 172.20
QB: M. Ryan- 24.50
RB: D. Johnson- 37.30
RB: D. Johnson, Jr.- 14.60
WR: D. Adams- 21.70
WR: D. Jackson- 11.70
WR: D. Westbrook- 9.30
TE: A. Hooper- 21.60
FL: M Gordon- 27.50
DF: Buccaneers- 4.00

I played 100% Gordon in tournaments (as a pivot away from Kareen Hunt, who I thought would be higher owned), 100% Duke, and 50% of David Johnson and Aaron Jones. David Njoku was in a almost all of my lineups except where I had a QB/TE stack (like this particular one). The only QBs I played in tournaments were Ryan, Mayfield, Luck, and Dalton. It didn't work out the way I thought it would, especially for Andy Dalton.

Frustrating week.

Week 11 comment

So many high priced RBs look like they're in great spots this weekend:

Gordon
Kamara
Elliot
Johnson
Barkley
McCaffrey

Ugh. It's going to be tough to choose. I think DK is starting to price these guys (1) more appropriately, and (2) bunched together on purpose.

Week 11 Recap:

Overall, I had a 94.8% return on the week. I made all the cash lines in double ups and won all head-to-heads. I was even able to have a good tournment week with a 72% return in those contests. I had to have three top RBs in my cash lineup so I needed to get a little lucky with lower priced WRs and my cash game QB-- Lamar Jackson!

Cash Lineup- 208.40
QB: L. Jackson- 19.70
RB: S. Barkley- 38.20
RB: E. Elliot- 36.10
WR: K. Golladay-28.30
WR: A. Cooper- 6.60
WR: T. Smith- 34.70
TE: J. Smith- 10.40
FL: D. Johnson- 19.40
DF: Texans- 15.00

My cash lineup was also my best tournament lineup but here is the next best one:

2nd Best Tournament Lineup- 175.94
QB: M. Ryan- 14.74
RB: A. Collins- 7.80
RB: A. Ekeler- 8.90
WR: J. Jones- 26.80
WR: K. Golladay- 28.30
WR: T. Smith- 34.70
TE: Z. Ertz- 3.50
FL: S. Barkley- 38.20
DF: Saints- 13.00

Clearly this lineup is filled with boom (Smith, Golladay, Jones, Barkely) or bust (Ertz, Collins, Ryan). I thought there was a chance that Gordon could be benched if the score got out of hand, thus plugging in Ekeler at low ownership (0.49%) and Collins I thought was a good play with Jackson in there and them needing to establish the run....they did, just not with Collins.

I played Ertz in 100% of my tournament linueps and that was a huge mistake. Played Barkley in 100% of my tournment lineups as well and that was a huge + for me.

On to Turkey Thursday games and the Sunday slate.

So frustrating that Nevada doesn't allow us to play these leagues. I was really enjoying it a few years back before the casinos got involved and got them banned.

How far is the drive to the state border?

Drew Brees has been spreading the ball out a LOT the past two weeks. Guys who are literally nobodys are catching TDs

I did great money wise last week but not so happy with my scores ... i was so toploaded it isn’t funny ... any by great with money i mean i won all 3 of the pay contests i played on both sites for a whopping $15 dollar in profits ... for now, thats not whats important to me ..

Whats more important to me ... way more important to me is getting a grasp on whats important witch should lead to improving scores .... thats not happening ... i seem to be getting more confused ... *L* ...

The good news is ... i am really frustrated right now but that don’t mean i’ll give up ... i’m To stubborn ... I NEVER FAIL cause I NEVER QUIT .. *L* ... and trust me i’m used to things taking way longer than they should ... most of the time it takes way longer than it should for the light to come on ... but it’ll eventually come on ... just wish this one would get a little brighter ... *L* ...

I had Zeke, Bark and Hilton score 114 of my 162 points ... thats awesome and horrible at the same time .. *L* ...

Lamar worked out great for the price .. u know the drill ...

I can live with the TE from J-ville ... u know the drill there also ... he was a great sacrifice in that it allowed me to get the studs i did and then i had decent filler cash left for the others ... didnt do so well with the others ... i wanna *L* but i’m Frustrated so its not funny ... *L* ..

this weeks mistakes were named Alshon, Amari and Deon .... the names change but there’s always at least 2 complete busts each week ... not the consistency i’m thriving for ...

I scored 162 on DK in my one and only contest on there .. it was a $5 double up ...

On FD i scored 134 and 164 in $5 double ups .. played 1 free tourny and scored 138 but didn’t place ...

I played one yesterday on FD ... this EPIDAMISES why i’m FRUSTRATED ....

So Wednesday night i play a $1 dollar 119,000 player tourny ... i scored 126 good for 17,019 place witch grossed me #2 for a net of $1 ...

WOOOOOHOOOO u done good Diam .. u outscored over 100,000 players ... granted over 17,000 scored more than u ,,, *L*

Well .... Wednesday night after a long butt day of driving i submitted a lineup ... threw NO’s Smith in just to fill it out and submit it ... there were at least two changes i wanted to make ...

Thursday i’m playing games with my nephews and hanging out with my family and around 12:15 i remember i have to go change my lineup ...

I narrow it down to 2 choices ....

Zeke or i forget who VS Thomas and some other dude i can’t remember ...

I decide on Thomas and his bum ... hit submit ... must have been 12:30 and 20 seconds ... it didn’t allow it ... for my wallet it was a good thing i dilly dallied and didn’t tend to it earlier ... but man ... if i was able to submit my new and IMPROVED line up I would have lost to 100,000 players and only scored more than 17,00 instead of the other way around ...

One of the two dudes i was taking out of my lineup was Amar, the same mistake from the week before (the week before pulled its normal weight in my decision ... i realize each week stands on its own and if a guy kills u one week thats aspect should have ZERO to do with the following weeks choices ...

My saving grace was i needed to make sure i could replace T’Quan if he didn’t play ... my choices were Coop and Carr from NO’s .. LUCKILY for me i chose Coop who scored me 34 of my 126 points .... thats over 25% of an 8 man teams points ...

So my “let m

j/c:

Not sure if I'm playing tomorrow (due to the busy holiday week) although I have a half-assed cash lineup already set up. All I know is, if Gordon is ruled out, every single lineup of mine (cash and tournaments) would have Ekeler. The guy is $3.7K on DK, is starting while playing at home, where the Chargers are favored, can catch passes, and is going against a bottom third defense against the run.

The stars are aligned.

The way things are unfolding for tomorrow's games, I think you might be able to get away with a couple lower priced RBs and pay up for WRs in cash. A very different approach from past cash lineups, but one I'm not sure I would take.

I still like Ekeler, two higher priced RBs, Lamar Jackson, Brate, DJ Moore, and fill in whatever else.

I just set my lineups ... only played one on each site and a free one on fanduel ...

I set my lineups just before i came here ... i’m traveling tomorrow and won’t have access to diddly all day ...

Went with the inexpensive RB’s ... I really like them this week ...

Lamar
Mack
Brieda
Chubb
Odell
TY
Sutton
Brate
Rats

Good luck dude ... wish i was gonna be around i’d LOVE to play Eck if Mel’s out ...

I might go Baker over Lamar in cash.. Not sure yet.

Some one talk me off it please.

To many question marks in this game as to how much were gonna need to score ...

Chubb could run for 200 yards with how bad they been and they lost there MLber ...

AJ’s not playing ...

On the other hand they could hang a 25 or so on us and with all there injuries in the secondary Bake could throw for 4 td’s ...

Lamar’s way safer ... they should destroy the faiders and they’ve given up ... last weekagainst the cards was a huge fluke ....

Considered Bake in rnd 2 of tweeting ... not for long though ...

I would have paid up for Luck ... i like him this week ..

Hope that helps ... *L* ..

Baker is crazy low. I have him, Chubb, Higgins and our D in a 25 cent league. And am riding the rest sans Higgins in all my other leagues. I'm really torn because I think a WR for SF has a good chance of doing extremely well (TB 32nd against WRs), but I'm not feeling extremely crazy about any particular player this week.

Whats the biggest money win anyone has had? I played a few years ago and was not very good at it.

$10 here .... *LOL* ...

Its my first year and i would have won $400 once if i played my highest scoring lineup in the tourny instead of a 1 dollar double up ... it seemed lie i wasted to the score for a buck ... *L* ..

My cash lineups almost always outscore my tourny line ups ,,,, thats how bad i am at tourny’s ... *L* ...

$20 in one $3 tournament. This is my 4th week playing and I'm trying to keep in just a handful of low money tournaments.

On Thanksgiving, going into the Saints game I was sitting at 2nd place in a 50,000 person tournament, with Thomas and Ridley left to play. I thought I was about to win $1,000, then the game was played. I ended up finishing 132nd for 8 bucks lmfao

He's $3800 on DK and Funchess is out. I'm trying to decide between him and DJ Moore, but I think Seattle will focus a lot on DJ.

j/c:

*** Checking Spencer Ware's DK price....***

Carlos Hyde is still cheaper by $700. However, both Watkins and maybe Hunt will be out for KC. I'm not saying they're cash game plays but Hill and Kelce look interesting in tournaments. Conley is a cash game consideration for me. Ware might be a nice pivot away from Hyde because so many people are on Hyde. Cheap with low tournament ownership...maybe?

Cheap running backs continued...Gus Edwards & Alex Collins are questionable, so Ty Montgomery and Buck Allen come into play against an Atlanta team that is out of it and has already shown they can't handle pass catching RBs.

What to do....what to do....

I'm going with Ware. He's playing against Oakland and I feel like Reid is going to try to send a message that Kareem is replaceable. Ebron is still pretty low, Josh Reyonlds is reasonable priced, he gets 2-4 rz targets a game. Chubb at 7k on DK is a killer. Funchess being back does me no help either. Been relying on Browns and Panthers players as of late. I have Yeldon in a lineup I made on Thursday. Has Carlos been playing better than him? You couldn't pay me to watch a Fournette-less Jags team.

Advice:

Chris Conley vs Oakland

OR

Bruce Ellington vs LA Rams

As of right now, my cash game lineup has both but I lean Ellington. I think he has a higher floor.

What sites do u guys use to get your stats from? ...

One, two ... any chance u guys can share links ... i’ve Had no luck with the two pay sites I’ve tried so far ...

Please help guys ...

I went with Cam at qb ...

Was gonna use Winston but for 600 i paid up for Cam ... thought it was well worth it ...

Who u guys landed on for now and why?

I use rotogrinders plus some of their stats are free.

Cash QB- either Lamar Jackson, Cousins, or Luck

I just use w/e stats are available on draft Kings and do some twitter searches on players. If I were to buy access to a stat site, it would be PFF. I think they're fairly cheap and I'll buy it for next season.

I bought up on Tyreek, Mahommes and Chubb. Ware, Ebron, Reynolds and DJ Moore round out the west.

So it seems this take is completely off. In fact it's the exact opposite. So far, according to the ownership projections I pay to view, Ware is projected to be 47.5% & Hyde is 12.5%.

I'm surprised it's not higher.

U talking cash or tourny line up ....

I’m ASSuming your talking cash Memph? ..

I set my initial lineup Tuesday’s ... it was

Cam
MaCaffery
Hunt
Ellington

And i can’t remember who else ... *L* ...

I’m gonna go re-set them now ...

Used a 3 day trial at rotogrinders ... was hard for me to use ... may go try out pff ... i want certain stats at my fingertips ...

Will let u know where i landed and why ...

Would love to know who your pivots are and WHY with the 3 qb’s u may play Memph ...

No, these are tournament projections. I would expect Ware and Hyde's ownership to be higher than that in cash. Hyde might be higher because of price and people will want to jam in Gurley & McCafferey.