DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Let's talk 2020 Presidential Candidates

Since we are starting to see Presidential bid announcements and rumors I thought we could talk candidates.

Currently my shortlist would be:

Bernie Sanders - the most popular politician in America today. Solidly behind medicare for all and living wages, fighting against Economic inequality and money in politics.

Beto O'Rourke - Reminds me of Bobby Kennedy in a way. Has a very good "We are in it together" view on politics. I'm not 100% sure of all his stances, but he's the kind of guy that wins hearts and votes just by his sincerity/love of country.

Kamala Harris - A strong, brilliant progressive woman. Very solid candidate that is not afraid to fight, has very progressive stances.

Gavin Newsom - A pretty good Dem/lib, a little more center left than my other choices but nonetheless honest or brilliant. His business background, time as mayor and Lt. Governor (now Governor) in California give him the experience to be a good center-left candidate. He's very likeable and would be popular with independents.

Honorable mentions that I wouldn't mind but don't think they could win:

Michael Avenatti - I just like how he goes after every angle he can to make life hell on the opposition.

Andrew Gillum - I think he IS what Obama promised to be. But there is very little chance he would be elected in the current political atmosphere.

Richard Ojeda - This gritty, gutsy, tell it how it is WV Veteran is a real American Liberal in every sense of the words. I think he compares to Harry Truman in his honest unabashed political brand. Sadly, I'm not sure he could pull it off on the big stage, nor am I convinced he could handle the Job if elected. His heart is in the right place, but his political experience is at best limited.


I would also like to see somebody oppose Trump in a primary, but if I made that list I would be called out on it for hating Trump.

noticed how Pocahontas and Spartacus wasn't on this list.

Not a fan of Corey Booker, and Liz Warren is Hillary light at this point.

I think Bernie can and will win if the dems don't screw him over again. Trump definitely stifled the Hilary movement but Bernie, not even close. I'd prefer someone younger but Bernie has the right political points.

I don't like Beto, his background and everything about him seems opportunist.

Gavin Newsome is exactly what the dems are looking for, good record, been in the game a long time, young, good looking, catholic (if you're trying to swing some votes).

Don't personally like Aventti or Gillum but Ojeda is a good choice as well.


I can't see Trump beating Bernie or Newsome. I think he could beat Aventti and Gillum, probably Beto too. Thie only problem with Bernie is that the dems just need to be "conservative" with their selection because beating Trump is a layup. Bernie just feels like he can go off the rails and make a "deplorable" comment at any moment.



I like Ro Khanna and Tulsi Gabbard.

I like them too. Not on my shortlist but definitely next tier, better than honorable mentions to be honest.

You surprised me with that, I would think they are both too progressive for you.

Both anti super PAC, my voting for Trump was much more about the money and corruption Hilary was bringing than a vote against progressive policies.

I think Beto O'Rourke has what it takes to get elected. I mean for him to do that well in Texas speaks volumes. What I don't know about is his substance and policies. Right now I think a positive message and someone Republicans haven't had years to publicly assassinate can win.

Let's face it, although the GOP couldn't get a conviction on Hillary, they had several years to assassinate her character and create suspicion around her. She was the worst candidate the Democrats could have possibly have run. Yet they did it anyway. That was a dumb azz move.

Beto is certainly the type of direction they should travel. They can't say he lacks experience after electing Trump.

One by one that list of yours will fade away as Biden and Bernie will be fighting at the end.

That is when Hillary will step in late to steal the show.

Hillary will move a little more left and the emotional thought of a do over and our first woman president will have the Democrats squealing and crying once more.

Biden will eventually relent, throwing his support behind Hillary and that will be the Democrat ticket going for the Presidency and Vice Presidency.

Well they could end up with a field of candidates in the teens. Then the vote could be so divided among qualified candidates that some dunderhead ends up winning the nomination. It's not like that's never happened before.

How about Keith Ellison? He got voted in even after all the sexual harassment claims. I guess lefties don't worry about that anymore.

Bring em on. Bunch of free stuff for everybody freaks..

you keep voting for people who give free stuff to the corporations and defense contractors.

so whats the problem voting for people who will give stuff to the middle class?

This from the guy with the who supports the grab em by the ____ President.

Got any proof? Remember you were the guy that wanted to string Kav up by the.....Thumbs. Now the women have admitted they lied and you have moved on to Trump skipped a ceramony and Malania wore cloths libs didn't approve of.

Just remember OCD, Dems will lie ,cheat and steel to get their own way.

fake news. conservatives decided they rather have steel made in china over america.

You sound like a 1950s gossiping housewife.

First of the Middle Class is a myth there are the rich and the poor the Middle Class is becoming extinct that is what happened before the fall of the Roman empire and it is happening here ... and also IMO the Dems have nobody that can defeat Trump ...

Take a leap of faith Pastor. After Trump, voting Dem is the answer to WWJD?

Vote Morals but there aren't many to be found out there

And you sound like a 2016'ish "I can't believe my boy didn't win, and consequently, I will bash our president all day every day because I'm a sore loser."

Actually, you don't sound like it, you ARE it.

What is moral about Trump? GMAB.

Trump might be a scumbag but he has done more for America in 2 years that O did in 8.

Name one Politician that hasn't lied you can't name one that hasn't talked bad about others no one can ... thats what I'm talking about everything they do is for power and money and could care less about you and me thats why I hate even talking politics, its like being a ref half the people hate you and half love you ...

Then why chime in at all?

Just felt like it, it won't happen much

This is the thread with the Ohio smack? Where's YTown? I gotta let him know what I think of Boardman

I would have voted for Bernie over Trump in the last election. I think Bernie has some great ideas that I strongly agree with. The problem with Bernie is that his economic agenda is flat out horrible. I would probably still vote for him to be honest. I was never that big on Trump except on his economics which have turned out to be awesome.

I just wish I could have Trump for economics and Bernie for domestic because the two would balance each other out in an amazing way.

I'm a strong believer that if you give everyone a good strong base that they will grow and get more ambitious to succeed than if you give just enough to barely survive.

In this country there should be no one that goes to bed hungry, without medical care, a roof over their head, or the ability to get all the education they need to be viable workers in a modern worldwide economy.

For those that think welfare is a waste I would argue it's a hell of a lot cheaper to have someone on welfare than it is to keep them in prison. It's a simple truth that in many states you're better off in prison than being poor. In prison, you get to eat, get medicine and treatment, a roof over your head, and in most of them you are safer than living in the slums or projects.

It's far more efficient to just have all our people cared for and treated with decency. I think Bernie feels the same way I do which is why I would vote for him in a heartbeat. It's a shame that liberal hate politics by Hillary derailed someone who would have led democrats into being a far better party with dignity and compassion and the true roots of their party.

General Mattis


Mad Dog 2020!

Although I think he would have won last election if he had the nod, I think its time the left got some new younger faces.

He couldn't win a senate seat against a HATED opponent.

I don't think the rust belt is going to elect a CA progressive to make decisions for them.

Another guy that couldn't win an election.



In all honesty, this is a problem I see for the left. They are too spread about with whom THEY want and act like children when "their" guy doesn't get the win. We saw it with Bernie last year.

I specifically remember the you guys screaming about the Ginger Kennedy after the State of Union and he was the new face of the party - I don't see him on your list. Funny how fast the left forgets.

Gmdawg for president 2020.

I like Sanders energy... But dang,,, He's getting long in the tooth and besides, he would be very divisive and that isn't needed.

Harris is a smart lady but needs a bit more seasoning...

O'Rourke is a very talented and smart guy and smooth as silk.. I'd need to know more, but he'd be a good one to watch.

Gillium isn't ready, america isn't ready...someday maybe

NO TO Avenatti....No to Ojeda... my neighbor went to school with him and the stories of corruption are amazing. that won't be successful..

I don't know Newson.

Stop making false equivalencies Pastor. You're better than that. Name one former president who was married three times and cheated on all three. Who has bragged about sexual assault.Who has had to pay off a porn star and a playboy bunny for their silence. Even when he cheats he does it scummy. Who has mocked a disabled person. Who has called women pigs and other distasteful names. I could go on and on with the terrible moral fiber of this man but please don't pretend he's the same as the rest.

You can't lay claim to being concerned about morals, christian values and family values while supporting swine. And if you're being honest, you know it.

And Republicans elected a dead brothel owner in Nevada and three convicted felons. Your point? lmao

Side note: best thing about electing a dead candidate - your party gets to appoint his replacement.

Also, it is better than using dead voters.

Yeah, if people only had some real evidence of using dead voters.

Here's some real irony. The dead brothel owner was also an evangelical Christian-backed Republican. You gotta see the irony in that one! lmao

Shows you just how low and disgusting the Democrats have become when the church lady would rather vote for a brothel owner.

Ah, the party of the christian and family values votes for a dead, self proclaimed pimp. lmao

And you claim the Dems. are low and disgusting?

Reagan is rolling over in his grave right now seeing what the Republican party has become.

Lincoln crawled out of his grave and switched parties in 2016.

Maybe Bernie Sanders will choose this socialist to be his running mate.


WATCH: New York’s Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez fails at basic math and economics

Pat Gray

Nov 7, 2018 5:18 pm



On Wednesday’s episode of “Pat Gray Unleashed,” Pat Gray and Keith Malinak discussed Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s pre-midterm interview with CNN reporter Jorge Ramos. Ramos pressed Ocaiso-Cortez on her policies and how they will be funded.

Medicare for all
“Medicare for all. Is it too expensive,” Ramos inquired.
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Without hesitation, Ocasio-Cortez said, “No.”

“People often say, like, ‘How are you going to pay for it?’ and I find the question so puzzling because, how do you pay for something that is more affordable? How do you pay for cheaper rent? You just pay for it,” she said.

Under her plan, medical services would not actually be free of charge but rather free at the time of service, which “means that people will not delay going to the dentist because they can’t pay at the time of service.”

Tuition-free university for all
Ramos pressed Ocasio-Cortez on how we would be able to afford her plan for a tuition-free public university for all.

Ocasio-Cortez asserted that we would pay for trade school level or collegiate level education for all the same way that we already pay for tuition-free K-12 for all.

“In the same way that we made a decision as a country to say we need to educate people to a 12th-grade level, we need to make the decision to educate people to a trade school or collegiate level.” Ocasio-Cortez said.

“So we can afford that?” Ramos asked.
“Absolutely,” she replied.

Pat lamented that she must be of the mindset that the federal government can just print more money as needed because she made no mention of where the federal government would acquire the funds to pay for her socialist programs.

Watch the video at the top of the page.


https://www.theblaze.com/video/watch-new...h-and-economics

"The Blaze"... we obviously have different definitions of blazing.