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Jamal Khashoggi, missing activist and writer, killed in fight, Saudi state media reports

https://www.foxnews.com/world/jamal-khas...e-media-reports

Jamal Khashoggi, the missing activist and writer last seen entering the Saudi Consulate in Turkey on Oct. 2, was killed in a fight, Saudi state media reported on Friday.

“Discussions between citizen Jamal Khashoggi and those who met him while he was in the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul led to a brawl and a physical altercation, which led to his death,” Saudi Arabia's attorney general said in a statement, according to The Wall Street Journal. The announcement of Kashoggi's death followed the preliminary findings of a probe into what happened to the activist.

State media also quoted prosecutors as saying 18 Saudi nationals are being held on suspicion of being involved in the Washington Post columnist's death. Saudi state media also said a royal court adviser close to Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) was fired along with three leaders in the kingdom's intelligence services and other officials.

The statements did not identify the 18 Saudis being held by authorities.

Saudi state TV and the state-run Saudi Press Agency carried the statement early Saturday morning.

The announcement comes after President Trump on Thursday said it "certainly" looked like Khashoggi was dead. The president didn't elaborate on his conclusion but he said the consequences for Saudi Arabia "will have to be very severe" if it's ultimately found responsible for Khashoggi's death.

Later Friday night Trump said that Saudi Arabia's announcement of arrests was a "good first step," but that what happened there is "unacceptable."

The president, who called Kashoggi's death a "horrible event" that has not gone "unnoticed," said he'd work with Congress on what the U.S. response should be, but that he'd prefer not to hurt American companies and jobs by cutting billions of dollars in arms sales to the kingdom.

“The United States acknowledges the announcement from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia that its investigation into the fate of Jamal Khashoggi is progressing and that it has taken action against the suspects it has identified thus far," White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said in a statement. "We will continue to closely follow the international investigations into this tragic incident and advocate for justice that is timely, transparent, and in accordance with all due process. We are saddened to hear confirmation of Mr. Khashoggi’s death, and we offer our deepest condolences to his family, fiancée, and friends.”

King Salman now has a proposal on the "urgent need" to restructure the kingdom's intelligence services following Khashoggi's death, the state-run Saudi Press Agency said.

Khashoggi, who had written critically of MBS, disappeared two weeks ago during a visit to the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul. Turkish officials said they feared he was killed and dismembered inside the consulate.

During a meeting with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo earlier this week, Saudi leaders -- including King Salman and the crown prince -- "strongly denied any knowledge of what took place in their consulate in Istanbul," Pompeo said. That denial was backed by President Trump prior to Friday's revelation.

Investigators on Friday had questioned staff from the Saudi Consulate about the disappearance of Khashoggi and explored whether his remains could have been dumped outside Istanbul after his suspected killing, Turkish media and a security official said.

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18 thugs were brought in to torture and kill this reporter and the statement is he died in a brawl. I thought CNN and MSNBC was good at spin.


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I'm sure Trump believes this because they said it strongly and he has billions of reasons to think they are credible. smh

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/cia...PNdey?ocid=AMZN


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Didn't you know that the CIA is a apart of the Deep state?


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Wow, beginning to sound like Trump was complicit with killing this guy! He now wants to send the Turkish cleric that Erdogan wants back to Turkey to silence them over this killing... wth? This is getting weirder and weirder...

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So a fake news story like the invasion of the USA by a caravan of rag tag "migrants" whose ethnicity and population was lied about by Trump ... was deserving of how much of Trump's attention and tweeting? (before the election) ....

And real news about a foreign government assassinating a journalist ... and we get nothing? I guess if you work for the "enemy of the people" then assassination is probably ok. smh


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https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/tr...rity-ncna938591

Shocker.

The p.o.s. president who acts like a mob boss - ignores what the CIA announces and overlooks the assassination of journalist. Hey - I guess when you are a p.o.s that likes to act as a dictator you can say and do what the heck you like. The Trump stooges will get in line and tow the Trump party line like parrots. . .

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/20/trump-saudi-arabia-jamal-khashoggi-crown-prince

""The 649-word statement appears to be a presidential act of defiance against the CIA, which has reportedly concluded that the Saudi prince ordered the killing, and the Senate, which is considering bipartisan legislation that would suspend weapons sales to Saudi Arabia among other punitive measures.

He told reporters at the White House that the CIA “didn’t make a determination” on the murder, and that they had “nothing definitive” on its perpetrator. The claim is contradicted by multiple reports that the intelligence agency has concluded that Prince Mohammed ordered the hit on the former Saudi insider who had become a persistent critic.""


""His statement made a series of false or unsubstantiated claims, suggesting that Riyadh is buying $110bn in US weapons. The actual total of offers since Trump took office is less than $15bn, and the value of actual signed contracts is significantly lower than that.

A new independent report found that US arms sales to Saudi Arabia account for fewer than 20,000 US jobs a year – less than a 20th of the employment boost Donald Trump has claimed.""


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Saw him talk about this today. Deplorable.

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Yep.

So it's okay for governments to assassinate enemy's of the state - and Trump has called the media the enemy of the state, just like the Saudi's said of Khashoggi .... and people wonder when the media get sent pipe bombs in the mail. smh


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Meh, our President made the only decision he could make.

Your cries are far smaller than they would be if he had cracked down and oil went to $400 per barrel and you were paying $12 per gallon for gas at the pump.

He will never get positive Press coverage either way.

He condemned the murder but won't throw America under the bus by playing world cop over it.

Saudi's have half a Trillion in orders from the US pending and are a vital ally against Iran.

So I can see why he went this way.

You can now hate him for it but you would hate him anyway.

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Yep.

So it's okay for governments to assassinate enemy's of the state - and Trump has called the media the enemy of the state, just like the Saudi's said of Khashoggi .... and people wonder when the media get sent pipe bombs in the mail. smh


Bro he wants to send a cleric that Erdogan hates back to Turkey to face the same fate just to shut Turkey up over this killing. This is how our president thinks. BANANA REPUBLIC DICTATOR. FASCIST SWINE.

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Meh, our President made the only decision he could make.

Your cries are far smaller than they would be if he had cracked down and oil went to $400 per barrel and you were paying $12 per gallon for gas at the pump.

He will never get positive Press coverage either way.

He condemned the murder but won't throw America under the bus by playing world cop over it.

Saudi's have half a Trillion in orders from the US pending and are a vital ally against Iran.

So I can see why he went this way.

You can now hate him for it but you would hate him anyway.
rofl

And here is the lackey right on cue with his false facts and parroting of whatever Trump wants him to say. thumbsup Thanks for proving my point!


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Meh, our President made the only decision he could make.

Your cries are far smaller than they would be if he had cracked down and oil went to $400 per barrel and you were paying $12 per gallon for gas at the pump.

He will never get positive Press coverage either way.

He condemned the murder but won't throw America under the bus by playing world cop over it.

Saudi's have half a Trillion in orders from the US pending and are a vital ally against Iran.

So I can see why he went this way.

You can now hate him for it but you would hate him anyway.
rofl

And here is the lackey right on cue with his false facts and parroting of whatever Trump wants him to say. thumbsup Thanks for proving my point!


Well the $12 per gallon in gas was a guess on my part based on the fact the Saudi's said they would cut production, raising oil prices to $400 per barrel if Sanctions were applied.

And the half trillion in orders turned out to be a bit less than I stated...

US-Saudi Arabia seal weapons deal worth nearly $110 billion immediately, $350 billion over 10 years
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/20/us-saudi...gins-visit.html

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Meh, our President made the only decision he could make.

Your cries are far smaller than they would be if he had cracked down and oil went to $400 per barrel and you were paying $12 per gallon for gas at the pump.

He will never get positive Press coverage either way.

He condemned the murder but won't throw America under the bus by playing world cop over it.

Saudi's have half a Trillion in orders from the US pending and are a vital ally against Iran.

So I can see why he went this way.

You can now hate him for it but you would hate him anyway.
rofl

And here is the lackey right on cue with his false facts and parroting of whatever Trump wants him to say. thumbsup Thanks for proving my point!


Well the $12 per gallon in gas was a guess on my part based on the fact the Saudi's said they would cut production, raising oil prices to $400 per barrel if Sanctions were applied.

And the half trillion in orders turned out to be a bit less than I stated...

US-Saudi Arabia seal weapons deal worth nearly $110 billion immediately, $350 billion over 10 years
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/20/us-saudi...gins-visit.html


Those weapons will eventually be used to kill US servicemen and women like they where when we’ve sold them to Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq. How’s this for “Deplorable” Now trump is blantenly ignoring the CIA assessment of this state sponsored murder of this US citizen. And you all were up in arms about drone strikes on known terrorists that are US citizens a couple years ago. Just deplorable! Your time is about up come Jan.


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Originally Posted By: mgh888

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/20/trump-saudi-arabia-jamal-khashoggi-crown-prince

""His statement made a series of false or unsubstantiated claims, suggesting that Riyadh is buying $110bn in US weapons. The actual total of offers since Trump took office is less than $15bn, and the value of actual signed contracts is significantly lower than that.

A new independent report found that US arms sales to Saudi Arabia account for fewer than 20,000 US jobs a year""


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A trillion = 1,000 Billion.

Half a trillion = 500 Billion.

15 Billion = not even close to half a trillion.

But - for those that never actually pay attention to how what Trump says and 'Facts' ... I am sure that doesn't matter.

That's why Trump's inauguration crowds were the biggest ever. That's why his 2 years in office have achieved more than any other administration in history. etc etc


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Where was the outrage when their boy O was apologizing and bowing to the Saudis even though they were behind 9-11 bombings ….Watta a deplorable

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Where was the outrage when their boy O was apologizing and bowing to the Saudis even though they were behind 9-11 bombings ….Watta a deplorable


Go check your time line. 911 was under Bush.

But that's a pretty good whatabout, just try to get Hilary in there too if you can. Maybe you can crowbar Bengazi-fakegate in there as well.


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Trump during his campaign: “Saudi Arabia, I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.”

Trump yesterday to reporters: “I have nothing to do with Saudi – just so you understand, I don’t make deals with Saudi Arabia. I don’t have money from Saudi Arabia. I have nothing to do with Saudi Arabia. I couldn’t care less…. Saudi Arabia has nothing to do with me.”

Very typical.


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Yeah, but, but, but..........


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Where was the outrage when their boy O was apologizing and bowing to the Saudis even though they were behind 9-11 bombings ….Watta a deplorable


Obama bowed as custom... Trump is literally letting them get away with murder. But yep, Obama bad. whatever... rolleyes

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Originally Posted By: DIEHARD
Trump during his campaign: “Saudi Arabia, I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.”

Trump yesterday to reporters: “I have nothing to do with Saudi – just so you understand, I don’t make deals with Saudi Arabia. I don’t have money from Saudi Arabia. I have nothing to do with Saudi Arabia. I couldn’t care less…. Saudi Arabia has nothing to do with me.”

Very typical.



Jez - would you please stop paying attention???


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Trump during his campaign: “Saudi Arabia, I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.”

Trump yesterday to reporters: “I have nothing to do with Saudi – just so you understand, I don’t make deals with Saudi Arabia. I don’t have money from Saudi Arabia. I have nothing to do with Saudi Arabia. I couldn’t care less…. Saudi Arabia has nothing to do with me.”

Very typical.



Jez - would you please stop paying attention???

Maybe I should just only watch Fox News? Same thing, I suppose.


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Trump during his campaign: “Saudi Arabia, I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.”

Trump yesterday to reporters: “I have nothing to do with Saudi – just so you understand, I don’t make deals with Saudi Arabia. I don’t have money from Saudi Arabia. I have nothing to do with Saudi Arabia. I couldn’t care less…. Saudi Arabia has nothing to do with me.”

Very typical.



Jez - would you please stop paying attention???

Maybe I should just only watch Fox News? Same thing, I suppose.


Is that better?


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Originally Posted By: DIEHARD
Trump during his campaign: “Saudi Arabia, I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.”

Trump yesterday to reporters: “I have nothing to do with Saudi – just so you understand, I don’t make deals with Saudi Arabia. I don’t have money from Saudi Arabia. I have nothing to do with Saudi Arabia. I couldn’t care less…. Saudi Arabia has nothing to do with me.”

Very typical.



Jez - would you please stop paying attention???

Maybe I should just only watch Fox News? Same thing, I suppose.


Is that better?

No, I get it. That wasn't directed at you.


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Family extends forgiveness to tribe that killed American missionary on remote Indian island

https://www.foxnews.com/world/family-ext...e-indian-island



How should the USA punish this tribe for murdering an American?

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Yeah, that's very relavent ..... Or not.


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Things that make you go hmmmmm...

A Saudi prince helped save Trump from bankruptcy—twice
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/saudi-prince-helped-save-trump-170443885.html


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Where was the outrage when their boy O was apologizing and bowing to the Saudis even though they were behind 9-11 bombings ….Watta a deplorable


Liberal tears don't change the fact that Trump made the right call on this for America. thumbsup

Enjoy the lower gas prices folks!

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Family extends forgiveness to tribe that killed American missionary on remote Indian island

https://www.foxnews.com/world/family-ext...e-indian-island



How should the USA punish this tribe for murdering an American?


I think we should stop supporting them by selling them billions in weapons.


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Where was the outrage when their boy O was apologizing and bowing to the Saudis even though they were behind 9-11 bombings ….Watta a deplorable


Liberal tears don't change the fact that Trump made the right call on this for America. thumbsup

Enjoy the lower gas prices folks!


Sickening. I like cheap gas as much as anyone, but I wouldn't knowingly let you murder somebody so I could save a few cents a gallon.

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Where was the outrage when their boy O was apologizing and bowing to the Saudis even though they were behind 9-11 bombings ….Watta a deplorable


Liberal tears don't change the fact that Trump made the right call on this for America. thumbsup

Enjoy the lower gas prices folks!


Sickening. I like cheap gas as much as anyone, but I wouldn't knowingly let you murder somebody so I could save a few cents a gallon.


Well, when they worship the almighty dollar instead of god, these are the sort of comments you can expect to see.


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Where was the outrage when their boy O was apologizing and bowing to the Saudis even though they were behind 9-11 bombings ….Watta a deplorable


Liberal tears don't change the fact that Trump made the right call on this for America. thumbsup

Enjoy the lower gas prices folks!


Sickening. I like cheap gas as much as anyone, but I wouldn't knowingly let you murder somebody so I could save a few cents a gallon.


Try looking it up and educating yourself.
It is about a whole lot more than just cheaper gas.

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Yep. It's about murder and money.

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I mean all Saudi Arabia did was murder an America journalist. It's not like they did anything truly evil like kneeling for a song.


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Funny how they believe Trump and his BS line about oil prices going through the roof. We get 40% of our oil from Canada and 11% from Saudi Arabia. But Trump said it, so his minions have to repeat it.


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Funny how those with blind hate of Trump can't see what he has done for them.

He tells the world he will put sanctions on Iranian oil and those who buy from Iran.

The Saudi's and Russia are working to control the price of oil worldwide.

They quickly ramp up production to make up for the Iranian oil that will be coming off the market in order to stabilize prices.

Trump then announces the sanctions against Iran's oil but gives waivers to nearly all of Iran's customers!

Now we have a huge worldwide glut of oil and prices are plunging. The price of gasoline is down and dropping from Thanksgiving thru Christmas and New Years!

The Saudi's and Russians realize this now and are working to cut production to get prices back to normal but that takes time.

Happy cheap gas America, all through the holiday travel season! thumbsup

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