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I think GW is being smart and making both guys compete if they want the job.

Just to add, these guys play against different LT's every week. It's not like playing either of our LT's is going to be some new look they haven't seen before. They will match up against them playing in a method to offset their strengths and take advantage of their weaknesses just like they do every other week of the season depending on who we line up at LT.

Gallagher?

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If he's not good enough to play/(start), you don't put a player on the field until he earns it.

He was only drafted in the early 2nd at the highest if I recall correctly.

The Browns need to end the notion that any and all players they draft in April "need" to make the roster and "have" to play immediately, it may be holding the teams success back.

yeah, in no way am I saying he has to play because of his draft slot ... BUT, I think it's a bad sign he hasnt (and Chad Thomas)

Or, it might be a good sign if Tretter has elevated his game enough to keep him on the bench. I honestly thought he played well in the preseason, and looked good when paired with Bitonio at the LG. I’m of the opinion that he’s going to be replacing the weak link in the line, after the season. Hubbard would seem to be the leader in the replaceable list. Can Corbett play RT?

I was of the opinion that Corbett was always gonna be Tretter's replacement. I think from the start J.C.s job was at risk as made clear on how they wanted him to change his body and such before the new year started and just the early minicamp offseason vibes.

I think the retirement and injurys through training camp really effected how the team could throw something together on the left side so they had to put Corbett on the back burner in his ability to focus on taking that role and Tretter amped up his game making it even harder for him to get any real game experience especially during this high ankle injury.

I am not sure what Tretter's contract is for next season but I fully expect Corbett to be pounding on his door when TC starts up and wouldn't be suprised if he takes the job and if anything putting Tretter back to becoming that versatile 6th man he played very well for the pack.

Of course just my opinions sifting through the words of coaches and other reports on this throughout the year.

In no way, shape, or form is it a bad sign.

It's actually a good sign that the team has a deep OL.

It certainly wouldn't hurt my feelings if things turned out that way.

JMHO, and I know little about O-line play. PFF ranked both Harrison and Robinson as average....Wylie stated Harrison had special athletic ability, but he's raw. I agree with folks who HOPE Harrison hits weights and earns big money as LT. He'd be my pick. Robinson stays maybe, get most out of him. Drafting a "STUD" LT or RT...as well as Dorsey did with top three picks, our Stud LT from Nevada hasn't sniffed the starting O line yet. The draft is a crap shoot, but IF there's a good Wisconsin lineman coming out I'd give him a hard look.....GO Browns!!!

Why would he have to be from Wisconsin?

Just guessing, but I think hitt is referring to the fact that Wisconsin seems to send a lot of OL to the NFL. Aside from the recently retired Joe Thomas, current Badger OL in the NFL include;

Kevin Zeitler
Ryan Ramczyk
Rob Havenstein
Travis Frederick
Tyler Marz
Rick Wagner
Ryan Groy

I'll throw in a plug for a kid that I kind of know....Mike Dieter, the current LG for the Badgers. He's an All American and has experience at every position on the line. He used to come over to my neighbor's house a lot when he was a kid. He was a huge, athletic individual even back then.

j/c

I think there are certain schools that seem to produce NFL players at specific positions. Penn State is sometimes called Linebacker U, Ohio State seems to send a lot of DBs to the pros. And Wisconsin sends OL. All of these schools send players from other positions, to be sure. But these schools appear to recruit and develop certain positions in greater proportions.

I also like Iowa for OL too

(and it seems we like Nevada haha)

I just don't believe you limit yourself to a certain school. Talent is talent no matter where you find it.

I mean how many great QB's have come from Oklahoma?

I think you just made my point Tab. Thanks! lol

Robinson is starting today

The announcers just said, no sacks of the Browns Qb for 2 consecutive weeks. Guess coaching was a big issue. Not sure how much Robinson for Harrison is contributing but even so, that goes to coaching as well.

I am really impressed with what Kitchens is doing as our OC. I am really hoping that whoever becomes the new HC keeps him around.

I hope Huey got an eyeful during today's loss. Just a total domination in some areas. hats off to a backup QB who played above and beyond what we should expect from him. Green would make a difference, I am sure. But even managing splits with AFC opponents is a very big, very positive step. Game balls to coaches and just keep handing them out.

Awfully proud of this team now. Watched the game with our club in a bar today. A lone, lonely noxious Cinci-nutty fan really carried on, and the smack was a-flying! She left afterward, and even congratulated us. Great day for us.

two is a streak, right? had to ask. . . .

Hitt said " but IF there's a good Wisconsin lineman coming out I'd give him a hard look". I don't see anything in there saying Wisconsin is the only place to look. You are acting like that's exactly what he said.

Is Greg Robinson good now or what?

Well, from the last two weeks, he’s certainly good enough. And I don’t say that in a joking manner. He seems to have a solid technique against the run, and a good kick back on speed rushers. We forget, that depending on whom he has to face, he just has to be good enough to get the job done. Sometimes that will be an epic battle, sometime it will be a moderate workout. He just has to be good enough that day.

So you're saying going against Clowney, Watt, and Mercilus might be a bit harder next week?

Robinson has been a big upgrade from Harrison IMO

j/c:

Harrison has been inactive the the last three games. This isn't a competition and the two aren't close. The team would prefer to move someone else over if Robinson got injured mid-game than to play DH.

And Hubbard is still bad.

The past few weeks, with the gameplan and Baker's progression, I haven't noticed Hubbard as much, which is a good thing

Also ... maybe it's coincidence, but our OL penalties seem to be way down since the switches

Baker is getting the ball out very quickly overall, and is also comfortable moving in and out of the pocket. That helps his OL help him.

The offensive line collapsed at times yesterday, but what impressed me most was, after seeing the replays, how Mayfield kept his eyes down field at all times and didn't really need to "reset" his vision after alluding defenders. He has the skill of feeling what is around him and reacting accordingly without needing to look directly at pressure, allowing him to remain focused on receivers down field. Also, I love that he knows how to move UP in the pocket instead of OUT of it, when necessary.

His play was remarkable.

Agreed. He stands strong in the pocket...eyes downfield...arm cocked and ready to rip it. He's a defense's nightmare with that accuracy and arm strength and moxie...he's a threat to put the ball anywhere on the field. Remarkable is the perfect word.

We’ll find out just how far has come next week against the Texans ...

VERY EXCITED to see him against a pretty good D when everyones healthy and there prettyhealthy heading into tonight ...

Kid looks GREAT ... its been against 2 of the worst D’s in the league and chefs D that wasn’t very good when we played them ...

LOVE WHAT I’M SEEING ... the SMALL DETAILS ... like hiding the ball on hi hip ala Payton ...

Can;t wait til Sunday to see how he does against the texans ... after that ... next big test will be against the rats ...

What were watching here is INCREDIBLE ... he has a shot ... oh man ... i gotta stop now .. *L* ..

It looks like Kitchens has simplified Baker's reads as well.The o-line doesn't have to hold their blocks as long.