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Waiver claims are due in on Monday. Should the Browns put in a claim. Obviously Dorsey knows him. It would mean assuming his rookie contact. Yes .. he is a Pro Bowl back, but is obviously damaged goods PR wise. With all the second, third, fourth chances the Browns gave Gordon, and Dorsey's history with him, should the Browns take a chance. After all of the convo and complaints about "not getting our money's worth out of Landry, Hunt would be a steal...

What does everyone think ?


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He will serve an extended suspension, at the least. Most likely through the end of the season, at least.

He might be worth the risk. Dorsey should know better than almost anyone.

If guys like Mixon, and Hill, Jamal Lewis, and even Kevin Mack can get a 2nd chance ..... so will Hunt. He's most likely going to be suspended without pay soon anyway ..... why not take a chance for next season?


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
He will serve an extended suspension, at the least. Most likely through the end of the season, at least.

He might be worth the risk. Dorsey should know better than almost anyone.

If guys like Mixon, and Hill, Jamal Lewis, and even Kevin Mack can get a 2nd chance ..... so will Hunt. He's most likely going to be suspended without pay soon anyway ..... why not take a chance for next season?


That's about the way I feel .. to get a back like him for 2 years on his rookie deal .. pairing him with Chubb. Wow


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
why not take a chance for next season?


Because he beat a woman.

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why not take a chance for next season?


Because he beat a woman.


I get that, and I hate that. However there are others who have also done similar things, and worse, who are still in the league.


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We have played the would have, could have, should have game for years. Should have picked Big Ben, Could have gotten Brees, Should have picked up Wentz. They all came back to haunt us. Now.. we can pick up a proven Pro Bowl RB. One who could come back and beat us.. for the cost of a third round rookie contract for 2 years.


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We’re on our way up, lets not drag ourselves down with this scum.


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I don't know if we will, but somebody will.


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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
why not take a chance for next season?


Because he beat a woman.
he doesnt deserve a 2nd chance? ... he should be put in HELL on earth and never let out? ..

Short of raping a women or hitting or molesting a child not sure theres a more despicable act than to hit a women ... EVERYONE deserves a 2nd chance ... at least in my book they do ...




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I do think if there's a team who may have the biggest "excuse" to try and take him, it's us. Dorsey has some reason to.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Browns won’t rule out claiming Kareem Hunt on waivers
Mike Florio,ProFootball Talk on NBC Sports 16 hours ago


As the clock ticks toward Monday’s deadline for securing Kareem Hunt on waivers, the team currently run by the man who drafted Hunt isn’t ruling out the possibility of making a claim.

Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com reports that the team will not reveal whether they’ll attempt to secure Hunt.

That doesn’t mean the Browns are seriously considering claiming Hunt. A source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT that G.M. John Dorsey doesn’t want to reveal his cards prematurely, one way or the other.

Dorsey has shown that he’s not bashful about rolling the dice on players with off-field issues. Receiver Tyreek Hill, who assaulted his then-pregnant girlfriend while in college, became a star for the Chiefs, after being drafted by Dorsey. Earlier this year, Dorsey selected receiver Antonio Callaway despite off-field concerns at Florida.

Claiming Hunt would be a move for 2019, since he won’t be playing this year, regardless of whether his current paid suspension converts to unpaid.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/browns-won-t-rule-claiming-201138354.html


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Yes. The X factor in all this is that he's Dorsey's player.

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I saw the video and I'm not condoning what he did, but, to me, he looked drunk. I was a bartender/bouncer when in college, and again when between jobs in my early 30s. What I saw in that video, was a normal night at work. Get the drunks out of the bar, without calling the cops, next day, rinse/repeat.


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I’ve often wondered who ran the show there the last few years ... Dorsey getting fired from there just didnt seem right ... something about that was and still is fishy to me ... i’ve Always thought that Dorsey lost the power struggle and wonder when Reid actually took over .... i would guess Reid made all of the picks in that last draft ...

Thats just me reading the very very very few tea leaves we have ....

Sumptin happenend there that goes well beyond whats being said ... power struggle over final say makes sense to me ... but i could be way off base here ...




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First, I am impressed at the restraint shown on this board, I am surprised at how long it took for this post to appear. I belong to two Browns' fan groups on FaceBook (it is hysterical, makes me appreciate the rational thought that we have here) and this question was posted about 12 times before Hunt likely knew he was released.

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Yes. The X factor in all this is that he's Dorsey's player.


This is the truth.

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I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he's a Brown


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Tough call, but we already have a crowded backfield. It seems like an unnecessary move that will just create drama.

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It would be typical for the Browns to claim him. Right when we are starting to get on the right track let’s derail it by picking this POS.

The Browns don’t need Hunt. We need to focus on using our draft picks and FA cash to bring in players that fit here, not wasting time on a wretch like Hunt.

What makes it worse is Hunt LIED to the Chiefs and Reid about what went on that night which is why Reid canned him. The guy is flat out dishonest, his word is worthless. You don’t want that kinda cancer anywhere near this young up and coming team.

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Tough call, but we already have a crowded backfield. It seems like an unnecessary move that will just create drama.
I think it's as big of an addition for the WRs as it would be the RBs


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Don't need him.

Yep. We have two good backs who don't commit assault against women. I'm not sure we need Kareem, even though he is super talented, he is local and we were all rooting for him. This assault literally happened in Cleveland and some of y'all really think he should be here? I get it, I would love for him to be on the Browns, but it's not worth the headache.

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Agreed.

Let someone else sign him. We've got Nick Chubb and Duke Johnson. They seem to have a good thing going.

I'd rather not have to root for someone who hits women. Sorry Kareem. Look somewhere else


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There have been many guys given a second chance under similar circumstances.

Somebody will pick him up.

His actions were atrocious. He will be suspended. Have no idea about criminal charges.

Dorsey knows him best. He has to determine if Hunt is all bad or made a terrible mistake that is outside of who he really is.

People can be forgiven. And can learn.

If Dorsey claims him I could move on and accept that decision.

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There have been many guys given a second chance under similar circumstances.

Somebody will pick him up.

His actions were atrocious. He will be suspended. Have no idea about criminal charges.

Dorsey knows him best. He has to determine if Hunt is all bad or made a terrible mistake that is outside of who he really is.

People can be forgiven. And can learn.

If Dorsey claims him I could move on and accept that decision.


Well said bone...I agree totally.

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Rizzo was saying this morning that he heard his suspension will carry into next season.

I'd have a hard time rooting for the guy. I hope he doesn't end up here.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I would say no for what seems to be a different reason than others.

We are a young team who are being led by very young players. Now on a team who is led by a veteran QB with strong veteran leadership it may be a different situation. But with the youth of our team and team leaders, I think the distraction Hunt would bring may do this squad more harm than good.


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I find it humorous.... after so much complaining about Landry "not living up to his contract" (and still having a good season ), that no one wants last year's NFL Rushing Leader on his 3rd round rookie contract. Someone will sign him. Then there will be the same ol' "Would have, Could have, Should have," comments.


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I would kinda agree we don't need him...

And I'm not condoning his behavior, but he's a young immature kid who made a poor decision. How he responds will be important. I think his public apology was a good start even though it could have been a disaster.

I think it will depend if Dorsey feels Hunt would have a good support system here and I think with a guy like Baker, he'd be a great support for a troubled kid.

I'm not sure how all this would work, but to claim him and get him on his rookie deal would be great for any team. I'm not sure how this would go if he clears waivers and becomes a free agent. But maybe that's best.

I'm sure somewhere along the way Dorsey has spoken to him. I think he would judge whether it's worth it to take a shot on him.

Again, I'm not condoning his behavior and pushing for us to sign him. I can just see it happening... and I think we'd be more likely to do so than most teams. I am reading he could be suspended for 6 games to start 2019.

In 2 years he would be on his final year of his contract I believe... And I know some will want to disagree and some won't believe it, but 2 years will probably be our best chance to win it all. The addition of Kareem Hunt might be too enthralling to pass up for Dorsey. Just my 2 pennies.

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Rizzo was saying this morning that he heard his suspension will carry into next season.

I'd have a hard time rooting for the guy. I hope he doesn't end up here.


It depends on how much time he spends on the exempt list .. and if the exempt list is considered part of his suspension. Will have to wait and see.


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Which would you rather have .... a full house backfield with Crubb, Duke, and Hilliard ..... or replacing Hilliard with Hunt?

Would we be better off with having Chubb and Hunt as primary rushers, and Duke playing more WR?

I have major concerns about Hunt right now. However, I don't think it can be argued that his talent would improve this team. We were just talking about needing more speed .... and he has speed.

I think that if he makes another public apology with the team he goes to, and immediately accepts his suspension, then he stands a very good chance of salvaging his career. His talent is undeniable. I don't know if this situation plays out with the Browns, but I would not be surprised if it does.


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Honestly, I wsnt even commenting regarding the situation of the DA case.

We just don't need him. We shipped Hyde out of here because we couldn't get the ball around enough.

I would think Freddie would be better at doing that than Hayley was - but when I take in effect we have Chubb, and THEN the DA case, we a really don't need him.

We have a lot going for this team right now. Great young Superstar in the making QB, superstar in the making RB, I would say Ward already is a Superstar. Other key young players coming around. I don't think the locker room is mature enough to take a guy like that in.

He'll go to NE and have a HOF career.

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What about signing him, then looking to trade him later?
If we do this we dictate where he goes. Otherwise he could be a Stiller, raven, or bengal.
I’d rather take the PR hit by signing him. See how the backlash goes. See if he’s contrite. Etc.
If we don’t like the situation trade him to our choice of team for whatever draft choice we can get for him.
We took on a massive salary in exchange for a draft pick with Osweiler. His salary was bloated. Hunt comes cheap. If we take the initial PR hit and allow the story to cool, other teams may come calling for his services.

Just a thought.


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Never actually thought of that angle.


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The other thing too, watch the video.

He had more than enough time to rethink his actions. He didn't just lose his cool. She slapped him a person held him back, then again, and i believe a third time he was held back is when he made the actual lunge at her.

He more than enough opportunity to walk away and keep his job in the NFL. He doesn't deserve to be in the Arena league.

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