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Look I don't think it's going to happen, but I thought I would throw this out there as the College football season is about to start. Appalachian is ranked #1 in I-AA Youngstown State is Ranked #5 (I think) The Univ. of Montana is Ranked #2 ( I know there is a poster on here who transfered there but I can't remember who it is.) I know alot of you could give a hoot about these schools, but it should be fun to see both ASU and YSU (two top five I-AA teams) going up against the "Big Boys". This is some good football and I really feel that at least the 1st half of these games could be fun to watch. Remember that in this division the National Champion is determined in a 16 team playoff.......and THAT IS SOME GOOD FOOTBALL. anyway, here is the article: And so it begins: A look at Appalachian State
by Jim Carty | The Ann Arbor NewsMonday August 27, 2007, 3:53 PM
Well, here comes Appalachian State, with the kind of spread, no-huddle offense that has, in the past, given Lloyd Carr and University of Michigan defenses more than a little bit of trouble in the past.
We've got an Associated Press season preview on the two-time defending I-AA national champions in The Ann Arbor News today (yes, I-AA has officially been changed to "championship division" by the NCAA, but would you have any idea what I meant if I said championship division? Of course not).
Here's a key out-take:
(Appalachian State) owns the longest active winning streak in both levels of Division I at 14 games, becoming a dynasty in the hills of western North Carolina.
Moore has built his program largely with local talent -- 69 players are from North Carolina -- and several Division I-A transfers, including defensive lineman Tim Washington (LSU), kicker-punter Julian Rauch (East Carolina), and linebacker Chase Laws (Army).
The Mountaineers emphasize speed -- Washington said the tempo at practice is faster than at LSU's workouts -- and the returning players have a mental toughness developed last season as they were targeted by every opponent during the defense of their first championship.
The Winston-Salem Journal reports that starting center Scott Suttle, who has started 38 straight games, may miss the game with a knee injury and be replaced by a redshirt freshman (injury info near bottom of link). That could prove significant.
The Charlotte Observer checks in with a quick-and-dirty look at key Appalachian State players and issues, including a clear indication of who your player to watch will be (tailback Kevin Richardson) and a look at SEC transfers Tim Washington (Louisiana State) and Quavian Lewis (Vanderbilt).
If you're looking for more on the Mountaineers, their website includes frequent practice reports dating back to when camp started (it may need to be explained to Michigan fans, used to a football program surrounded by the secrecy, that these are fan-friendly updates about what the team's actually doing. Crazy, huh?)
LINK Hopefully there will be some Appalachian Fans coming out of the woodwork on Sat.   
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Hey, I am a Browns fan too.......
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I'm looking for an Idaho upset of USC too. Man, this is some good stuff you guys have here!
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Here's another upset guaranteed.
Notre Dame beating Georgia Tech.
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Notre Dame beating Georgia Tech.
How is that an upset? 
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Here's another upset guaranteed.
Notre Dame beating Georgia Tech.
How is that an upset?
Ask Mark May the big ND hater. He doesn't think we'll win a game I think.
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Notre Dame beating Georgia Tech.
How is that an upset?
it's not.
notre dame is -2.5 against georgia tech...
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NC....I like Appy...they sure have gone light years ahead of the Mocs...I have seen all of those teams both in regular season or the National Championship that is played here every year just before Christmas..
Not quite like going to see my Gators slug it out with Fla. Wannabe St or Alabama....but good none the less.
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The Nat Champ game proved that a big layoff, and an injury to a key player can do wonders for the outcome of a game. Florida was inferior to Ohio State, but ended up winning a fluke. I don't see any reason why Michigan, or Ohio State can't get upset this weekend.
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My oh my.
You still haven't come to grips.
Face it man....you got you ass handed to your on a platter.
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Next time my Penguins make it to the NC we'll have to meet up in Chatanooga peen. I was there the last time in 99. Very good time. Unfortunately Adrian Peterson ran all over us.
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I was at that game too....and the year you won....actually got on the field to shake Tressels hand.
I always buy a few tickets...somehow my number is on their list...and usually go for at least the first half...except if the weather is bad.
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Yeah, it really did. Oh wait... you're not talking about the 2002-03 national championship game? My bad... 
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I would say he was,...I have always wondered, and even used it as "defense," as to how the outcome may have been different had WM not gotten blown up by Will Allen. But it is what it is; no one can say that Clarett wouldn't have gotten 100 more yards rushing and 2 more TD's in the face of an ever-pressing MaGahee. Who knows, can't say. I'd like to believe the outcome of last year's game would be different had the Gators had to defend TG all night, but somehow, ain't so sure it would have made a difference, given the outcome. Who knows, can't say.
As to the thread's real gist, I hope YSU gives Ohio State everything it can handle, up to and including a finish like the 2002 Cincy game. It would continue to qualify 1-AA ball and its playoff system as a model of college athletics. Not this crap of getting handed the "slot" in the BCS before the season satrts with "polls." I.E.,...USC.
You watch Appy come with their chaps hitched up.
Or Montana,...one of these 3 is gonna put on a show this weekend.
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Yep and Peen,
I went to both the National Championship game in Chatt. and the YSU vs. ASU game in Boone, NC. Both were good games but ASU kinda took over in the second half of both games.
Just as a little background, my dad went to the YSU/ASU game with me and my buddies. He was a Grad. of YSU, but both my sister and I graduated from App. State. He had a special shirt made up that was half black and gold and half red and white, he then had it stencilled with " learned how to make money at YSU and my kids learned how to spend it at ASU".
He got alot of comments on that shirt.
But back on subject.......I don't honestly feel that either YSU or ASU has a shot in hell of beating that state up north or OSU, but I do feel that they can at least make the 1st half interesting. Piont of FACT: ASU went to Baton Rouge 2(maybe 3) yrs. ago and played LSU on a Sat. NIGHT game.......going into the 4th quarter the score was only 10-0 LSU......LSU ended up winning the game 27 to nothing, but for lowly App. State to take LSU, on a Sat. night, to 10-0 in the 4th, is quite an accomplishment.
ASU also has a Soph. quarterback that threw for over 2,000 yrds and rushed for over a 1,000 as a true freshman, after riding the pine for the 1st 3 games!!!!. Only four other guys in division one have ever done that and not one of them was a freshman. If any of you guys get the game, just watch a little, we might surprise some people for a little while.
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I Gotta admit Ballpeen, I am not over it yet. I always considered the Gators a threat strictly due to the coaching prowess of Urban Meyer- the man led Utah to an undefeated season. Nevertheless, Ohio State had not given up that many points since 1999, and our heisman trophy winner had six total yards. The only logical explanation I will ever accept is the 51 day layoff, and more importantly, the injury to Teddy Ginn after he burnt you guys on the opening play of the game. -Changed everything. Either way, it's Florida's championship. If you guys win one more championship you'll have half as many as Ohio State. Good luck with your attempt to repeat. Back on the subject, Whether I like it or not, I can see Youngstown State upsetting OSU -depends who's hungrier. Should be a cool weekend.
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There is no way that YSU will beat Ohio State. No way. That means no chance, nada, zip, zero, zilch...
In the Penguins hayday with Tressel as coach I could see YSU giving the OSU teams back then a game. YSU back then was able to compete against Div. I schools and OSU played well beneath their ability. The only reason this game might look close as far as final score is because Tressel doesn't want to embarrass the Penguins. He is the reason OSU would even play the Penguins who are Div. I AA. OSU had a policy of not playing I AA schools
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I Gotta admit Ballpeen, I am not over it yet. I always considered the Gators a threat strictly due to the coaching prowess of Urban Meyer- the man led Utah to an undefeated season.
Nevertheless, Ohio State had not given up that many points since 1999, and our heisman trophy winner had six total yards. The only logical explanation I will ever accept is the 51 day layoff, and more importantly, the injury to Teddy Ginn after he burnt you guys on the opening play of the game. -Changed everything. Either way, it's Florida's championship.
If you guys win one more championship you'll have half as many as Ohio State. Good luck with your attempt to repeat.
Back on the subject, Whether I like it or not, I can see Youngstown State upsetting OSU -depends who's hungrier. Should be a cool weekend.
i think the layoff and the ginn injury took their toll on that game, but i blame the buckeyes and the big ten in general...
i think we went into that game thinking it was going to be a breeze... i bet if you looked at their preparation against miami in the '03 fiesta bowl, and the preparation against florida back in january, i bet there is a significant difference in how they planned their attack, and how the team rallied around eachother...
and i blame the big ten for not challenging the buckeyes, really at all...
nobody in the non-conference schedule gave them a real game, including texas...
penn state was somewhat of a close game, but really never in doubt... and although michigan only lost by 3, that game was not in doubt...
and if can bring up the '02 team again, they were playing close games almost every week... and defensively that makes your team better, being able to come up clutch, and really lock down on an offense...
i loved the offense we ran last year, spreading the field out, having troy smith pick apart defenses, including a nice running game, but to be honest, i'm ready to see the return of woody/tressel ball... we don't have the speed at the receiver position, or the experience at the quarterback position to play like that this year, and probably even next year... so i see more of a conservative attack which puts more emphasis on defense... and i think that's the proper way to attack, even if it does mean more nail biters...
it's just like i say with the tribe, i'd rather see 2-1 games than 11-10...
it's an overused term, but defense does win championships...
i do wanna give florida credit though, they were ready in that game, and they were flat out better... urban meyer is a hell of a coach...
the buckeyes will be back though, they've proven it year in and year out...
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We looked horrible on D. I wonder how much of that was caused by Florida watching the tapes of Michigan moving thru our D. Smith was terrible also. I heard rumors that he was out of shape and not very focused. I wonder if there was any validity to that.
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it's pretty obvious that as a whole our team was not focused or prepared to win that game... I think they went into it taking Florida very lightly and got burned for it very badly (which they deserved if they did take UF lightly).
I'm over the game... we got beat up and embarrassed... but that's football. The better team that night won.
In terms of the thread... no way OSU or UM loses to a 1-AA team... and that goes for ANY 1-AA IMO.
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i do wanna give florida credit though, they were ready in that game, and they were flat out better...
We looked horrible on D. I wonder how much of that was caused by Florida watching the tapes of Michigan moving thru our D. Smith was terrible also. I heard rumors that he was out of shape and not very focused. I wonder if there was any validity to that.
i don't know if we will ever really know... troy smith wasn't given much of a chance, he had defensive ends in his face all night, the offensive line was beaten on almost every play...
with what troy smith was given though, he looked terrible...
the run game was actually working early on, but tressel did not have the faith in his defense that he could play that type of game...
the one thing i'm sick of hearing about is how the big ten will never be able to catch up with the sec... it's as if the sec has always been better, which is something i just don't understand...
and while miami is not in the sec, that '02 team had more talent and speed than any team in the sec last year, and quite frankly, over the past 5, 6 years...
and as far as a 1-aa school beating ohio state, it won't happen... it starts and ends at the line of scrimmage where the big boys dominate.
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Speed kills. And OSU was its victim. Nough said.  I'm not happy about it,but we were schooled,bottom line.
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Your honor, I present this as Exhibit A in my defense of why some of us non-OSU fans seek out reasons to get our jabs in at OSU and it's fans....
I know most OSU fans aren't this bad... but for the love of.... 
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lol that is horrible...we lost...i have moved on doesn't matter why we lost...fact is we lost... it was a FLUKE 
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Your honor, I present this as Exhibit A in my defense of why some of us non-OSU fans seek out reasons to get our jabs in at OSU and it's fans....
I know most OSU fans aren't this bad... but for the love of....
Well, no fluke. I have said this to every Florida fan I have talked to, they flat out kicked our ass. The Buckeyes couldn't match the speed of their team and it looked like Tressel panicked, thats all. They won, they kicked our ass, and after flying out there for that BS I can say it still hurts. But once they kickoff on Saturday it's in the back of my mind b/c this year is finally here! GO BUCKS!!!!!
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Fixed it...
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that is the next line genius...but thanks for sticking ur nose in where it doesn't belong again
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I can't say that Florida was inferior to us but I still think the Bucks had the edge on overall talent. Especially on the offensive side of the ball. But they outplanned, outplayed, and out coached us that day and that's the only thing that matters. Just like tOSU back in 2002. Miami was by far the more talented team but they were outplayed on the one day that matters. That's why you play them on the field. Another example would be Boise State. Oklahoma was certainly more talented as a whole but Boise State came to play and ended up winning one of the best college football games I've ever watched. How many thousands examples of this have there been in sports history?
I guess my point is that just because a team wins one game against an opponent it doesn't mean they have more talent. It just means that for some reason (coaching, inspiration, gameplan, extraordinary performance, etc) that they were better the one day that it counted.
But why dwell on the past. New season begins in 2 days and I can't wait to see the Bucks in action. I'll say it right here and right now... If Ohio State is undefeated going into Ann Arbor, Chris Wells will be in the Heisman discussion. That's a big if because Wisconsin and Penn State will be very tough challenges but we're going to need to ride Beanie and it's going to take a big year from him if we're going to go to a BCS bowl.
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I think it's more the difference between the Big 10 and the SEC than it is the difference between the Buckeyes and OSU... The Bucks had a great team, I'm not taking anything away from them... but they had not seen anything all year even remotely close to the Florida defense. The whole difference in the game was that the Florida DL made the OSU OL look like they were standing still....
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I disagree with you o good sir....i believe the Buckeyes and OSU are not that different
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