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Eagles need to stick with Foles.

j/c:

One thing I forgot to mention last night was how wrong I was about the Bears. I remember us debating about whether the Browns should trade for K. Mack. I was all in on the deal that would send a first round pick and Collins to Oakland for Mack, but I balked when I heard the asking price was two first round picks.

I debated w/Diam about that and said that the Bears didn't have a shot at the playoffs and that both Minni and GB were better than them in their division. Turns out, I was wrong.

j/c:

One thing I forgot to mention last night was how wrong I was about the Bears. I remember us debating about whether the Browns should trade for K. Mack. I was all in on the deal that would send a first round pick and Collins to Oakland for Mack, but I balked when I heard the asking price was two first round picks.

I debated w/Diam about that and said that the Bears didn't have a shot at the playoffs and that both Minni and GB were better than them in their division. Turns out, I was wrong.

I dont remember u or anyone else being on my side ... i been wrong before, guess i’ll Just add this to my list ... *L* ...

Dawg ... they used we couldnt afford to extend him as another to not do it ... i couldnt believe it ..

How do u not give up two first rounders and a chunk of the HUGE AMOUNT of space we had for a GENERATIONAL PLAYER that is still YOUNG ... at that position ... are u kidding me ...

I tmade no sense to me how u wouldn’t take the GENERATIONAL PLAYER for a chance to draft two guy u HOPE WILL BE GOOD MUCH LESS GENERATINOL especially at that position ...

Dang .. wish i knew u were on my team .. i’ve Been alone in my stances many many times before ... that one seemed lonelier than most ... *L* ..

I've seen a few people in the media asking questions about Wentz and his extension recently. Meaning, I think they can dump a huge extension at his feet this offseason, but would you? His 1st season was "meh", 2nd season MVP-like but ended in a bad knee injury and then this season was late to start filled with some mediocre play and ANOTHER season ending injury. Is that good enough to give him a Cousins-like extension?

I wouldn't.

I think you have to (and I would). They went all in on him 2 years ago, you can't give up on him now. He's good. Don't let the injuries fool you.

I had no idea you could return a 2 point conversion. Wow

Josh McDaniels: “No ulterior motive” to Josh Gordon’s absence on final play

During Sunday’s loss to the Steelers, New England receiver Josh Gordon didn’t do much, catching only one pass for 19 yards. More surprisingly, Gordon wasn’t on the field for the final play from scrimmage for a Patriots team trailing by seven.

It was fourth and 15 from the Steelers 21, a snap that came after Pittsburgh called a timeout. But there was no Gordon among the targets available to Tom Brady.

“We had just kind of run quite a few plays in a row,” offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels said Tuesday when asked about the situation by reporters. “I know there was a timeout there before that. Both of those guys have worked at that spot and in that type of a situation, and based on what we were doing, we made the choice to go with [Cordarrelle Patterson] at that point — no ulterior motive on that at all. Just put a fresh guy in to go in there and do something on the last play to see if we could get into the end zone, and it is what it is.”

It was what it was, a failed effort to tie the game, and an outcome that has many wondering whether the Patriots have lost their mojo. From the collapse of situational football against the Dolphins to the undisciplined play against the Steelers (14 penalties is a staggering amount of flags for a Bill Belichick team) to increasing questions about Father Time making his final kick toward Tom Brady, the Patriots are now guaranteed to have fewer than 12 wins for the first time since 2009, and they’re in danger of not having a bye for the first time since that same season.

You can return a 2 point conversion for 2 points. Rare play.

Even freakier: the 1 point safety. Basically if the offense commits a safety on a 2 point conversion (on the other side of the field, use your imagination), the defense gets 1 point.

It's possible for a game to end with a score of 6-1, for example.

Rules in high school, college and professional football dictate that when a safety occurs during a two-point conversion or point-after kick (officially known in the rulebooks as a try), it is worth one point. It can be scored by the offense in college and professional football (following an NFL rule change in 2015) if the defense obtains possession of a live ball in the field of play, propels the ball (by carrying it or fumbling it) into its own end zone, and then is downed there with the defense in possession of the ball. This event has only occurred twice in NCAA Division I history. Before 2015, the only scenario in which a one-point safety could have been scored in the NFL would have involved the defense kicking or batting a loose ball out the back of the end zone without taking possession of it.[14]

A conversion safety could be earned by the defense if the offense retreated with the ball all the way back into its own end zone; most plausibly this would involve a fumble at some point during the play. Two potential scenarios include an errant snap or a fumble that is bobbled repeatedly until the offensive team recovers the ball in, or bats the ball through, its own end zone (similar situations have been documented in regular play from scrimmage[15] and are more likely in arena football with its much shorter, narrower and bounded field of play), or, in the college and professional game, a defender attempting a defensive two-point conversion, fumbling the ball and having the offensive team recover in their own end zone. Although such a conversion safety has never been scored by the defense, this rule provides the only way in American football that a team could finish the game with a score of one point. (Canadian football allows another one-point play called the single or rouge).[16]

The high school football rulebook acknowledges the conversion safety, awarding one point for it, but also immediately ends a play if the opposing team gains possession of the ball, a rule similar to the one the NFL used before 2015. Thus, any situation that requires the defense to gain possession of the ball could not result in a conversion safety in games where that rulebook is used.

You can return a 2 point conversion for 2 points. Rare play.

Even freakier: the 1 point safety. Basically if the offense commits a safety on a 2 point conversion (on the other side of the field, use your imagination), the defense gets 1 point.

It's possible for a game to end with a score of 6-1, for example.