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Just looking ahead to next year.

I am projecting us to win 7 games. Even if we win 8, it probably won't change the at large games, determined by team records at seasons end.

Home games

Benglas, Ravens, Steelers, Bills, Dolphins,Rams, Seahawks, and the AFC South will be either the Titans or Colts.

Away games

Bengals, Ravens, Steelers, 49ers, Jets, Pats, Cards, and the AFC West. Looks like another trip to Denver for that one.





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11 wins.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
11 wins.



Could be. My wording on my first post may not have been as clear as it could have been. My projecting 7 wins is for this season.

Those games against the AFC South and West are played against teams with a similar record.


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I will be in Arizona.

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on the surface that looks easier than this year ... playing at SF and AZ with home games against SEA and LAR is much easier than the other way around


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I won't be super specific here, as our roster and other teams roster can drastically change in an off season via draft and free agency.. However, I expect a minimum of 8 wins based on what our team has shown thus far.

Nothing but good signs for this team in the future.


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8-10 wins is not out of the realm.
Possible staff switch can affect it one way or another.

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10+ and division Champs thumbsup


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I mean, based solely on our team right now with a year of growth? I'd expect 10 wins and would probably be disappointed in anything less.

I mean, if we were to start the season over right now with our current team I'd expect 10 wins.


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I kinda wish we could "redo" the first 6 weeks of the season just to see how we'd fare now


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Min of 9 by count, with 2 that I think would be 50/50 games. But honestly, we went from 0-16 to this year in a single season, so I don't take much into projections.

I mean heck, 8-10 weeks ago i would say the #1 pick was a race between us, dallas, and the colts and Oakland.

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We waited for this for a long time ... a long fricking time ... and i mean a LONG LONG LONG FRICKING TIME ...

I think i’ll Enjoy the anticpation of DOMINATING the bungles this week ... we’ll worry about 19 WHEN THIS YEARS OVER ...

I’m enjoying it dawgs .. not looking past NEXT SUNDAY ...

Enjoy it your way dawgs ... u seem to be enjoying your way as much as i am enjoying my way ... thumbsup ....




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I expect the Browns to compete for, if not win, the division next year. If nothing else, anything less than a Wild Card berth would be a disappointing 2019 season.

Looking forward to go up to the game next year. There will be some good QBs coming to town, with Goff, Wilson and Luck.

Hopefully and quite likely, the Browns get some MNF or SNF prime time home games. The crowd and atmosphere this year against the Jets was incredible.

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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
I kinda wish we could "redo" the first 6 weeks of the season just to see how we'd fare now




No kidding. We wasted time with Hubert.

That guy possibly cost us a playoff spot this year.


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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
We waited for this for a long time ... a long fricking time ... and i mean a LONG LONG LONG FRICKING TIME ...

I think i’ll Enjoy the anticpation of DOMINATING the bungles this week ... we’ll worry about 19 WHEN THIS YEARS OVER ...

I’m enjoying it dawgs .. not looking past NEXT SUNDAY ...

Enjoy it your way dawgs ... u seem to be enjoying your way as much as i am enjoying my way ... thumbsup ....



I get it, but come on dawg, one can look forward, if nothing more than a talking point.


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Could be. I think it will be in that range.


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Next year just try and stay in the division race, and actually win it in the end.

On my optimistic side, anything less than a divison title I'll be a little disappointed.

On my pessimistic side, all of the win every game talk seems pie in the sky, can't possibly expect it, probably go 4-12 with adjustments, (can they keep the team together).


Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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it seems like forever ago that we hosted the Seahawks. In fact, I can't even remember the game


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
it seems like forever ago that we hosted the Seahawks. In fact, I can't even remember the game


We had them at home maybe 3 season ago. Possibly 4.


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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
it seems like forever ago that we hosted the Seahawks. In fact, I can't even remember the game


Last time Seattle was in Cleveland was 7 years ago in October, 2011.

A 6-3 snoozefest. The Browns won.

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lol i have no recollection of that one ... thankfully


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Milk Man
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
it seems like forever ago that we hosted the Seahawks. In fact, I can't even remember the game


Last time Seattle was in Cleveland was 7 years ago in October, 2011.

A 6-3 snoozefest. The Browns won.



Or possibly 7! tongue


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Originally Posted By: Swish
11 wins.


You're out of your mind.

I've got us penciled in for 14 wins, one of our two losses will be in the final week when we're resting starters

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Originally Posted By: Milk Man
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
it seems like forever ago that we hosted the Seahawks. In fact, I can't even remember the game


Last time Seattle was in Cleveland was 7 years ago in October, 2011.

A 6-3 snoozefest. The Browns won.

Isn't that the way the whole schedule rotation is supposed to work? We play the NFC west every 4 years, rotating home and home, the Seahawks should come to Cleveland every 8 years.


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Yeah it is ... it.. it just always seems like when the NFC opponents come to town it's been FOREVER since we've seen em


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Hedging against a let down is not something I am willing to do after another offseason and draft.

I expect this team to compete for the division next season.

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Before this season, I said with decent coaching, the Browns would figure to compete for a playoff spot. However, with Hue Jackson at the helm, I predicted 5-11. He got canned after 8 games with 2 wins and a tie, and the team has come on strong in the second half, so I feel that prediction held up pretty well.

As it stands now, I figure 7 wins and a tie for the season-- a split between the Bengals and Ravens.

As far as predicting next season, you have to be careful in projecting on the low and the high ends. Every team has talent every single year. The differences in the NFL are not as big as some people seem to believe. Even a team full of replacement level players would figure to win 2-3 games.

When you look at the Vegas over/unders before the start of the season, it's rare to see a team O/U wins set at below 4.5-5 or so, and even this is bottom of the barrel, requiring a bad roster and often bad coaching.

If you think a really bad team should win less than about 4-5 games, by all means put your money on it. Just don't be surprised when it's not a long-term winning strategy. Of course, you have to do this before the season. You don't have the luxury of choosing during and after the season.

I'm going to say about 10 wins for next season. I may revise this at some point. You have to be mindful that you don't chalk up games vs bad teams as automatic wins, and go flip flop vs the best teams. Even the best teams lose in upsets... see what I wrote above. Bad teams win. No team is immune to this... margins are tight in the NFL, teams have good and bad weeks, and there are always the freak plays or bad calls by officials to consider. Oh, and injuries.. another big one.

It would have been hard to predict where teams like the Eagles (7-7), Packers (5-8-1), and Falcons (5-9) ended up. Even the Pats (9-5) are not guaranteed a playoff spot.

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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
Yeah it is ... it.. it just always seems like when the NFC opponents come to town it's been FOREVER since we've seen em

Yeah, we play NFC teams once every four years, host 'em once every eight.

I don't really like the discrepancy between how often you play teams. How does it make sense that we play the Baltimore Ravens eight times more often than the Detroit Lions? Ahh well.. that's how it's set up.

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I kinda would like a shake up of the divisions to be honest. Take the Ravens out of ours and add Buffalo.


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The league is set up in divisions. You are always going to play he teams in your division more than the other teams. I don't see any way around that.


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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
I kinda would like a shake up of the divisions to be honest. Take the Ravens out of ours and add Buffalo.


That is a topic that comes up from time to time. From a geographic standpoint, it makes sense to have Det. or Indy in our division.

You can carve it up any number of ways and some things won't make sense.

It goes beyond that. Dallas being in the east makes no sense but the owners of the Redskins and Cowboys wanted to maintain their rivalry, so what owners want is considered. TV contracts is another. I am sure there is a big formula that helped set things up as the stand. Also, a competition balance has to be taken in to account. It makes sense that the Jets and Giants would be in the same division if you are looking at geography. Even if they didn't share a stadium, it would be a problem. The away team would have a huge advantage over every other team on a away game because they could sleep at home and take a bus a few blocks away v having having to get on a plane and spend the night on the road.

In the end, TV probably weighs about 80% of the decision.


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They should just rename the divisions something other than geography, then Dallas being in the East goes away. Rename it the Green division or anything else. Just fix the playoff seeding where record is considered over division winner.


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Originally Posted By: Tulsa
They should just rename the divisions something other than geography, then Dallas being in the East goes away. Rename it the Green division or anything else. Just fix the playoff seeding where record is considered over division winner.


I think there has to be a reward for winning your division, and the wild card does help address any "slights".


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
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They should just rename the divisions something other than geography, then Dallas being in the East goes away. Rename it the Green division or anything else. Just fix the playoff seeding where record is considered over division winner.


I think there has to be a reward for winning your division, and the wild card does help address any "slights".


But a better team then may have to play more games and/or lose home field advantage their record rightfully earned. How you played against 3 other teams should not give you an advantage over how a better team played their season.


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They should just rename the divisions something other than geography, then Dallas being in the East goes away. Rename it the Green division or anything else. Just fix the playoff seeding where record is considered over division winner.


I think there has to be a reward for winning your division, and the wild card does help address any "slights".


But a better team then may have to play more games and/or lose home field advantage their record rightfully earned. How you played against 3 other teams should not give you an advantage over how a better team played their season.


On the other hand .......

You play the teams you play. We play an AFC and an NFC division each year, in addition to the AFCN. There are only 2 games that are set by record. You can only play the teams you play. Let's say that one team plays 2 outside divisions who are having great season, while another plays a pair of divisions mired in mediocrity and riddles with injuries. Do you make allowances there as well? If division titles are meaningless, then why have divisions at all?


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I’d be all in favor of eliminating divisions, they’re pointless. While you’re at it, get rid of the conferences. With all the inter-league play now, it isn’t needed. Just put the top 16 teams in the playoffs. That’s the way it should be.

Just imagine having the option of a Browns / Steelers Super Bowl, with the Browns winning of course.


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