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I'm not sure where the confusion lies. Peppers was played out of position the entire season last year. Everyone that knows anything about his skill set in college knew it. Our secondary was bereft of talent and it was a hodgepodge of players just trying to muddle through the season.

During the off season Dorsey totally revamped that secondary. He used the FA market and the draft to put together a talented group. I still don't think he's finished with it but we're in much better position today due to his efforts.

This has allowed Peppers to play in a position that best suits his skill set. As with any young player it has taken a little time for him to adjust to the speed of the game but he's coming along nicely and turning out to be the player many of us felt he would as a result.

I am all in on Peppers the kid is getting better by the game

I agree. I think he has played really well this year.

j/c

Progress doesn't happen in a straight line...

Guard Dawg

The interception Peppers made was very impressive, and showed signs of great improvement. He was playing centerfielder like he did a lot of last year. Instead of misreading the play, he read it, broke, sprinted 25 yards, and high pointed the ball and picked itoff.

That site also has a short blurb about Peppers in its team of the week. https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-week-15-nfl-team-of-the-week

my thing about peppers is you don't hear his name much, good or bad. He just does his job and does it well without making many game impacting mistakes. Thats plenty good in my book and the improvement from last year to this year has been impressive. Can't wait to see him next year

I was extremely critical of the Peppers pick. A tweener, playing out of position to start his NFL career is a massive adjustment. I now understand why they loved him.

Picks in the 15-31 range are HUGE bust potential compared to 1-15. The guy loves football and it shows, he was worked his tail off and it shows. I hope he continues to improve because he looks like a good one right now.

Jabrill Peppers: Why his hard lessons of 2017 are paying off big in 2018 -- Film Room

By Jake Burns

https://www.cleveland.com/expo/sports/er...his-hard-l.html

One of the problems I see in our D is the inconsistency, we have good games and we have terrible games.

One of the problems I see with Peppers is that he has good games and bad games, another problem is that his tackling fundamentals are wrong.

Nothing ticks me off more that when people try to illustrate how good a player is with a play where the player got lucky.


Peppers tackle on the sack was fundamentally wrong... it was a design sack, not an individual skill play. I concede that he's better than last year (It was hard to be worst) but he's far from being a good player

nice read, Grateful.

Articles like that get my blood pumping. Especially when I read tag lines like this:




Great, detailed eval.

clueless as usual

The sack was both. It was a designed blitz, but Peppers attack a different gap than the play called for because he read the blocks and picked the right gap. That is a skill reading the defense. And how about the interception play?

When the QB threw the ball Peppers was 20+ yards away from where he intercepted the ball. He broke immediately and showed elite speed and burst to make the play on the ball that he did.

PFF's 6th Rated Safety:
Jabrill Peppers CLV
83.2

he's definitely better IMO ... like, it's pretty apparent that he's way better

Honestly i dont see much difference between him and kindred. Kindred started his rookie season, so he was still trying to learn and adjust to playing in the NFL. However can we really say peppers play this year has been head and shoulders above what kindred did as a rookie?

Kindred is as fluid as cement. If he isn't barreling down the field, he's hard to play.

Yes, he is, but he still a work in progress, and I think that he can be even better in time.

Many think that he is having a better season playing in the box, and I think that is true in part, but he does still play some deep Safety in a two deep look.

On the INT in Denver he had the deep responsible after the snap from that look, and still had the range from the left, opposite hash to make the play.

He is in the truest sense a hybrid x factor. The problem that he can have on an offense is ... is he a LB, SS, or on occasion, a deep safety?

In conclusion ... I don't see last season as a total wast of time, born out of necessity.

It might just turn out to have been providential.

This came up on my YT feed.... Figured it goes here

[video:youtube]https://youtu.be/t0KK43BXnYE[/video]

He has to be assigned to Jackson all day Sunday. Priority 1 for Peppers = Jackson running, Game over!

I was thinking the same thing, that Peppers has to become Jackson's Kryptonite. But what I think makes Jackson so hard to solve is that once you over commit to stopping his legs then he can make some simple reads and accurate passes. Baltimore has traditionally liked their TEs and this new kid, Mark Andrews has to be accounted for. I'm no football genius but it might be a more effective strategy to be situational to down, distance, and formation. So sometimes Peppers and then maybe other times somebody like Avery has to spy him.

Just thinking out loud...

Ty ...