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FYi it was 58 rec for 917 yards and 7 TDs. behind the greatest WR in the game. Yeah, hes better than anyone we got on this team.

He also has 91 rec RIGHT NOW with three games left, for 1200 yards and 6 tds. Let me know when Jarvis has numbers like that.

Oh I agree - I like Landry a lot.

But I wouldn't begrudge anyone looking at his performances here to date and have them suggest we might of overpaid for what we have right now. Others that take it beyond that are simply hatin'.

We made a great decision imo. And I think the returns will increase. And that's not mentioning or counting the intangibles that many have mentioned.

Put VICE GRIPS on that team ... his numbers would EXPLODE ... especially his first few years when he was learning the ropes ...

Are u kidding me .. and I LOVE JuJu ... thats not easy for me to admit ... believe hes a chicago area boy and it was between my irish and my version of ichigan .. and he chose the dreaded Trojans over my glorious domers .... he is however in the PERFECT INCUBATOR ... PERFECT ... u could not have drawn up a better place for a rookie WR to be dropped into ...

And i’m Not so sure he’s much more of a #1 than VICE GRIPS ... he is however a PLAYMAKER ...

#’s ... PFFFFT .... that tells a much smaller part of the picture than some would imagine ...

There may not be more than 5 ....actually make that 2 or 3 WR’s i would take when considering age over one Kenny Golladay and his numbers dont even compare to some BUMS ...

That kid can be ELITE .... a TRUE #1 ...

Juju is a very good WR in my opinion. I'd take him in a heartbeat

There’s so many reasons i can’t wait for next year ... and watching u guys praise Bake and VICE GRIPS next year will make our teams success just a little sweeter for me ...

at the outset of this season, I predicted us to be a 4-6 win team with 6 being the uber-optimistic high-water mark. Now we're into early December and are already there with an outside chance at hitting 8 wins.

We're already far better than I expected or could have hoped and we're getting better every week. I can definitely wait for next year because I will never wish away a Spring or Summer, but I am most assuredly excited for the possibilities of next season!

I could not agree more ... especially at my age ... *L* ...

Lets just say usually at this point in the season i’m looking forward to next year cause i want this one to end ... thats not the case this time ... i have thoroghly enjoyed watching this team play and have actually CHERISED every moment ... could of used a little ... OK ... a lot less heartbreak ...

but there was a different emotion other than the dismay that leads to an empty pit in the stomach and makes u question your sanity because u know your going to put yourself through an hour of pure hell and then 2 more hours of getting kicked in the crotch repeatedly the following Sunday ...

And this year sometimes when the game ended ... not only was my crotch fine but i had an ear to ear smile on my face ... Jets game ... nuff said ..... and the broken heart was different yet a lot less painful than the kick in the crotch ... cause the kick in the crotch came early and often ... before the heartbreak there was HOPE and something to cheer about during the game other than when the final gun sounded ...

WARTS AND ALL .... and there’s plenty of them ... I LOVE THIS TEAM and the fact i now look forward to FOOTBALL SUNDAYS AGAIN ... heartbreak and all ....

No clue where that came from ... but it felt right ...

so he has 140 catches next to landrys 200 plus then you say schuster is that much better.
also jarvis is on a course to put himself in the hof that is proof he is a number one he broke all 4 year receiving records
while being thrown toby tannehill and taylor or are you saying they are as good as big ben

You do know the Steelers throw more passes than any team in the NFL right? And they have a future HoF QB and we had Taylor and then a rookie QB? I love Mayfield, but he's still a rookie.

We really comparing a pass happy team in the Steelers to a balanced team like the browns?

Furthermore, are we really comparing raw numbers?

Am I the only one that realizes just how skewed that ALWAYS is??

Like the Tackles stat.... bad teams get more opportunities for making a tackle, so a player with a boatload of tackles on a bad team is not impressive at all.

Raw numbers without context are next to worthless.

Shouldn't use stats, unless you have stats that explain those stats.

For me it's more than just raw numbers...

People talk about his blocking and intangibles. Great. However, I am on the side of the fence who doesn't think he's the leader some perceive him to be.


I'm told that after his 5th year in the NFL Landry is going to finally break out... so we'll just wait and see, I guess.

Yeah, setting the record in receptions during his first four seasons isn't breaking out.

I'd like to see the stats on that.

How many pro bowls? ... *LOL* ...

I mean its not like hes Sammy Watkins or Brandin Cooks ... look at how they all ready broke out compared to Vice Grips ... ...

NOTICE how none of the haters have addressed the SALARY FIGURES I PUT OUT while they all whine he’s over paid ...

Any clue why they IGNORE that pretty key aspect of the equation ... i have NO CLUE ... ...

Because they'd rather use outdated stats from players signed in previous years.

Somehow it eludes them that the salary cap increases every year and so do players salaries. They ignore that a year from now Landry's contract will look like a bargain.

Baker Mayfield looks to involve Jarvis Landry more in Browns' offense

Rookie quarterback Baker Mayfield says "it's very important" to get receiver Jarvis Landry involved more in the Cleveland Browns' offense.

Author: Matthew Florjancic
Published: 12:21 PM EST December 11, 2018
Updated: 12:21 PM EST December 11, 2018


https://www.wkyc.com/article/sports/nfl/...d1-237fd6bd11da

CLEVELAND — In recent weeks, Cleveland Browns wide receiver Jarvis Landry has struggled to deliver the kind of consistent production he had earlier in the season, and it has to do with the emergence of several other skill players.

But Landry had no trouble making an impact in Sunday’s 26-20 victory over the Carolina Panthers at FirstEnergy Stadium, as had five touches for 106 yards and two touchdowns, and nearly threw for a score on a trick play.


“It is very important,” quarterback Baker Mayfield said. “Obviously, when we get the ball in his hands, that is what happens. You have to get him going early. You have to get that momentum. Then, he is a guy who he feeds off that momentum, that energy and that confidence.

“That is what we are trying to do, and we need to continue to try to get the ball in our playmakers’ hands more and more. We have a lot of playmakers. That is the great thing about having a lot of playmakers. Somebody is going to be making plays, but that is also the tough thing. You have to be able to spread the ball out and have unselfish guys that believe in the team.”

The Browns answered the Panthers’ opening-drive touchdown with one of their own in front of the home fans midway through the first quarter.

The Browns marched 75 yards in just three plays, and Landry punctuated the drive with a three-yard touchdown run around right end. Following the play, Landry three the ball into the stands in the West end zone in celebration.



Later in the game, Landry had a 51-yard run.

On third-and-two, Mayfield faked a handoff to wide receiver Breshad Perriman, who was going from left to right across the formation, and then, slipped the ball to Landry in the middle of the field, and the veteran pass catcher moved the ball down the field in short order.

After an initial burst of speed through a gap at the line of scrimmage, Landry cut across the field and outraced several Carolina defenders before being chased down from behind by multi-time Pro Bowl linebacker Luke Kuechly.

“Two carries, almost two touchdowns and 50 or 60 yards or something like that? Those are pretty good stats,” offensive lineman Joel Bitonio said. “That was a fun play, and I’m glad it worked twice. I thought he had a touchdown on that one.”

Mayfield added, “I guess calling it twice worked. Jarvis made a great play, made a bunch of people miss and extended the play.”



Landry finished the game with 54 yards and one score on two carries, as well as 57 yards and one touchdown on three receptions, and since that production came in a win, interim coach Gregg Williams is convinced his veteran pass catcher will ask to do even more over the final three weeks of the regular season.

“I am sure he will be begging to kick it now,” Williams said with a laugh.

“That is the kind of guy and the kind of athlete he is, too. You can’t have too many of those guys around. I think it is great what you see (offensive coordinator) Freddie (Kitchens) and the offensive guys doing of scripting up and planning up things to give our good guys a chance to make plays that way, and they are.”

I have had my reservations about Landry. There was a game or two he seemed to show little effort earlier in the year. I chalk that up to the Hue Jackson effect - not to go down that road.

He has been great since my reservations. Even if the numbers receiving could be better, people forget that Baker doesn't target a single guy in a game. He will throw to WHOMEVER IS OPEN or is ready to make a play. He doesn't typically force the ball to a single guy - alas ben to ab, ryan to Julio, etc. a lot of those numbers those guys get are inflated because they are up or down in a game, and the qb is just trying to make a receiver happy. IMO.

As far as his contract goes, we had 70+ million I believe in space. We were 0-16, yeah you gonna have to shell out some big bucks to get a guy like Jarvis in the building to stay. That's just math and business.

And as pitt pointed, the cap has gone up significantly, that's why each year, there is a new "highest paid player" we hear about. Heck, I think this year we seen that like 5 times as contracts were getting down. lol.

So that's either here nor there.

Some may say hes overpaid. I say we were 0-16 without landry, and 5-7-1 with landry

Not only is the cap increasing annually, teams can now carry over unspent cap space from the previous year.

It's just silly Monopoly money these days, really. I mean, ya still have to pay attention to make sure you don't strap yourself in the future, but we are SOOOOOO FAAARRRRRRRR from that right now it is kinda ridiculous. Add in that we keep front-loading things and paying the piper up front and we are setting ourselves up to continually have a decent amount of cap space for the long haul.

let's see... Landry has 69 receptions and 790 yards with 3 games to go. He will likely hit 1,000 yards. Also, his yards per reception is up almost a full yard. if he ends up with 80 receptions and 1,000 yards... that's pretty darn good. last year, he was under 1k yards receiving.

I'll take that type of production for the next 4 years.

I agree. I don't want to get into the Sashi experiment too much, but financially speaking, he did set us up pretty good on that ONE aspect of things. That's why I believe we are not just going to be a surprise team one year, and flame out next. We are financially setup for multiple years, we are young, and we have a decent amount of draft capital still I believe.

We could be on the brinks of a multiple playoff runs VERY shortly.

Did they turn off the heat in Berea?

OVERPAID MY BEHIND!!!!

- 1st one over to defend Bake and rather vigorously i might add ..

- what a GREAT BLOCK to allow Bake to get the corner on that play ...

- not one but two AWESOME sideline catches ... he made them both look so easy ...

- best pass of the day ... what a DIME ...

Totally agreed.

Not sure, but he looked like he hurt hand or wrist late in the game. Is Landry OK? This Man had himself a real dangerous day! What catches!

If trick plays justify a WR's worth, then have at it.

But, I saw two egregious drops for "Vice Grips" and 4 rec. for 47 yards on 8 targets with zero TDs.

To paraphrase an earlier comment of mine, Landry does the least with the most opportunity.

The 2nd one was an egregious drop .... ...

Maybe bake could have either not thrown it 90 mph or not behind him or not high ....

Sideline catches/ great blocking are now considered “trick plays” ... got it ...

Sure glad u cleared that up for me ... ...

PS. Bake spreads it out ... the way he distrubutes it .... no ones ever gonna put up HUGE NUMBERS ... and thats a GREAT THING ...

lets not forget that the drop early in the game was on 3rd and 19. where he was at, it would've been a whopping 4 yard gain and tackle.

No, the trick play was the pass, obviously. Also, let's not try and make up for the lack of WR production by talking about blocking ability as it related to being overpaid or not. Us Greg Little fans will get a relapse.

We're going to agree to disagree here. But I'm still happy to debate you on him. Did you play him in DFS?

I like to see that....Baker also got up with a "tude".

These guys better stick up for Baker, and they will. They know he makes them better and he's the one making this thing work.

Here we go..... "I mean, he wouldn't have run for a first down anyways"

No excuse bro ... he took his eyes off the ball ... NOT ACCEPTABLE to me ...

Calling the 2nd one a drops a JOKE ... i’m gonna have to go re-watch it and Jake sure its not my bias creeping in ...

He does so many things that dont show up on the stat sheet ...

Like that block ... Bake dont get near the 1st down if VICE GRIPS dont take that dude 10 yards back ... how far down field he blocked him made the speed at witch he got over to protect Bake ..

Please do.

What I LOVED about Landry today was running to the defense of Mayfield after his QB run late in the game. Him and Higgins, but Landry's appearance was more pronounced, and he got in the face of the defender on a questionable late hit.

That speaks volumes and shows he has his QB's back.

No ... Bake spreads it out to much ... my mistake today was not playing Njoku in my FF SB ... that and our D melting down in the 4th Q is more than likely gonna cost me $200 ... I was afraid to cause of how Bake spreads it out ...

I have ZERO PROBLEMS with Vice Grips production ...

If your going to judge Landry solely on his recieving stats ... no need to debate this year ... his numbers won’t justify the contract ...

I’m going to take into account the first 8 weeks our O was appearantly in COMPLETE and UTTER DISSARAY ... and Bake spreads it out ...

I’m also going to consider the BIG PLAYS he’s made .... and Bake does rely on him ...

Wait til next year dawg when him and Bake have a whole off season and OTA’s and TC to establish chemistry ...

And we've come to an accord.

Oh, and I had a bunch of Njoku in DFS.

Landry is a quality player who is a bit overpaid that I am is on the team.

That last gaunt was bittersweet for u ... THRILLED at the catch and the yards but wishing he had 4 more yards in him ... *L* ....

Glad Landry is on the team. I could care less about his contract.