DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2019 NFL Season 2019 NFL Draft With the 17th pick in the 2019 the NFL draft the Cleveland Browns select

What positions need upgraded the most?

DT, Edge, OLB(X2), CB, T, WR, and TE.

DT. Put a 1st rounder inside next to Ogunjobi and watch them eat offensive linemen.

I think we have ten picks so... I am going (no order) kicker, punt returner, OLB, WR, OT, DL, backup QB and a ridiculously talented player or two with a sketch past that dropped in the draft.

DT, DE, CB, or WR

Not a QB.

After seeing that i think we need a QB lol...

1.T
2.DT
3.WR
4.TE
5.LB
6.S
7.CB

Thats how i see team needs right now...

DT or LB

DT
LB
CB

It's unrealistic to expect Dorsey to repeat the success of last years draft, both in terms of quality and quantity. We don't have spots 1 and 4, so don't let your expectations run rampant. Sashi set us up superbly; it won't happen again in '19...

I think this is the list .... sure we would always welcome upgrades and or competition at every position but DT LB and CB in that order are the areas that would push this team forward significantly.

When your offense with a rookier QB can put up 20+ points and 300+ yards on one of the NFL's elite defenses you know the offense is in pretty decent shape. Another WR would be nice. An improvement at OT would be nice .... but really when you give up so few sacks as we have in the last few games, it is not a priority. Go D first 3 or 4 picks....

Probably not. We have 11 picks if I remember correctly.

We need 3 good players out of the 11, 4 would be gravy.

Add in a couple of free agent additions...not superstars, just solid, proven players and we are set for a nice run.

Depends on who 'falls' in the draft, but I also believe, as you, that this is the direction we should go...

I think you have to take BPA. I'm confident Dorsey and Co. will do so.

This team is in desperate need of a game changing LB. I would actually put this as the #1 overall need.

I think the teens is the sweet spot in the first round. We need our own Patrick Willis. Would be nice if the stars aligned at 17 for such a player (don't know if there is such a player in the draft).

Using CBS sports list as a reference and assuming that their top ten at least will be gone by the 17th pick. I guess I would go Deandre Baker, Christian Wilkins.There are others that I have heard mentioned but I have not seen play. I did see a game from Zach Allen and was impressed but I don't know if I would use the 17th pick on him.

j/c

After watching yesterday's game, I don't know how we could have any position other that DT & LB as our top two priorities.

Dexter Lawrence

I'd add WR to that list

agreed. the middle of our defense was soft and slow yesterday. Need massive upgrades at 3T and LB

The PED suspension concerns me with Lawrence. But yeah I would take him in a heartbeat otherwise.

Also, Isiah Simmons of Clemson looked pretty good. He is listed by CBS as a safety but I believe he was in at LB during the ND game. Also, CBS says 6'2" but the game stats said 6'4". Weighs 230 and runs a 4.3 forty.

Although he is listed as a sophmore with no mention of red shirt It looks like he is listed as a redshirt sophmore on the Clemson site.

Off the top of my head, Raekwon Davis or K’Neal Harry (though thankfully we’ve been so fun this year I haven’t even bothered to think about the draft)

I’m more concerned about where we’re going to spend our cap space in free agency. We’re in our window, start spending now.

If I had to rank it, I'd say:

1) OLB
2) DT

As our top needs, followed by:

3) CB
4) WR
5) OT
6) FS
7) DE

That said, we are in a great position to sit there and see who falls to us. Guys like Tunsil or Derwin James seem to fall each draft. We just need to take the best guy that falls to us, rather than focus on filling a spot based on position.

There is a chance these 5 could be there at 17 ...

DeAndre Baker CB UGA
Devin Bush OLB Xichigan
Dexter Lawrence DT Clemson
NKeal Harry WR Arizona State
Dremont Jones DT Ohio State

For those that want an “OLB”, do you think we’ll play three linebackers next year (which basically no one does, including us this year) or do you not trust Kirksey?

DT
EDGE
CB
T
WR

I don't trust any of our OLB. Avery might have a chance, but he is really situational right now as well.

Kirksey is OK against the pass, but he cannot shed a block to save his life. He would not have helped yesterday at all.

Collin can be great at times, then disappear for the rest of the game.

Our starting OLB are eminently replaceable. (and expensive) Maybe one of them might be OK, for a year, but man, we need an upgrade at the other spot.

By “other spot” do you mean the one that plays 20% of the snaps?

No one plays three linebackers. We only did last year because our secondary was atrocious.

Our secondary was hardly atrocious. It was in 2017 .... but in 2018 we actually had solid components across the board. It took some time for guys to fit together, but there is talent back there.

As I said, I see Kirksey as a pass cover guy. He gets washed out against the run far too often. I don't like Collins's inconsistency, at all. If we replaced both, then fine. One of them needs to be replaced, though. Maybe we only use 3 LB 20% of the time, but we better be ready to use them more against a team like the Ravens.

There is only 1 OLB rated as a first rounder so far and its Devan Bush how many of you would consider him at #17?

I am still hoping that Devin White drops to 17. I think he can play any LB spot, and would be great at OLB.

To me we only have 1 legitimate LB and that is Schobert, Collins could be if he gave a full effort all game long. Kirksey hasn't been very good since we switched to the 4-3 and he got moved to WLB. Not sure what Kirksey makes but I would make him a backup LB/special teamer and Collins I would trade/cut.

Kirksey has a 2019 cap hit of $8.2 million, or a dead cap of $10.6.

I don't think you can keep him as a backup with that salary.

Jamie Collins has a 2019 cap hit of $11.75 million, or a dead cap hit of $2.5 million. He gone.

One more positional player available for us ....

Daniel Jones - QB - Player

Duke redshirt junior QB Daniel Jones declared for the 2019 Draft.

Jones (6'5/220) had an uneven three seasons with a weak supporting cast, finishing with a 59.5 career completion percentage. There's some concern Jones may need time to develop, but his measurables and deep accuracy are at the top of this year's class. Jones draws strong grades for his pocket presence and mechanics after being developed under quarterback guru David Cutcliffe at Duke. Jones is a first-round lock and has potential to be a top-five pick.

Source: Stephen Wiseman on Twitter Dec 31 - 3:46 PM

When I said "last year" I meant 2017. That can be kind of confusing at this point in the year/season.



If a person thinks Kirksey needs to be replaced, then I totally understand the want to draft a linebacker high. I just don't see it happening with the contract and status with the team Kirksey has. I don't think Collins will be around next year.

As far as playing three linebackers against the Ravens, that is a twice a year issue. I am not too worried about it. There are plenty of guys who can come in and play linebacker for a little bit. I'd say that Peppers is perfect to play against the Ravens in the future as he gets better.

Thinking about it more, I'd love to see more of our "linebacker" snaps go to Peppers and just have him out there with Schobert and like five DBs.

Collins played 90% of the defensive snaps this year; he will be gone next year. Kirksey has not shown the ability to stay healthy; Schobert is banged up quite frequently too.

We can definitely use a stud LB.

It depends on what we do in FA. I expect us to be active.

For our own FAs, I'd like to see us re-sign Perriman, EJ Gaines, Robinson, Boddy-Calhoun, and Coley.

I'd love to see us sign Ansah or Fowler at DE, KJ Wright ad OLB and cut Collins (dead money = 2.5m, savings 9.25m), and Bradley Roby. However, I wouldn't expect all of these to be available to us.

Then at 17, best run stuffing DT or Devon White. I'd like to see DT, OLB, WR, CB, QB, and depth (TE, OL) the rest of the way. If we don't sign DE, OLB, or CB in FA, then add another of each to the list.

Schobert has been hurt once:

http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/11425/joe-schobert

Kirksey has been hurt once:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KirkCh00.htm

(Both played in 16 games every year besides this year.)

Run stuffing players should never go in the first round if that is their only skill. Danny Shelton played 31% of the snaps for the Patriots this year. That type of player does nothing for you when a team passes most of the time and also lines up in shotgun most of the time.

If we want a run stuffer we should bring back Jamie Meder. He is currently available because no one signed him after we cut him.

I could see Bush here if Williams stayed