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Originally Posted By: DeputyDawg
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Hearing former Packers coach Mike McCarthy will be the next head coach of the Browns.


This is why we can't have nice things.


Talking heads will say anything this time of year... However, my ear is to the ground and I haven't heard that at all... in fact, if you listen to Dorsey today, he respects McCarthy but he stopped short of saying he's interviewing him.


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I'll repeat what I said earlier. As fans we have a vested interest in the Browns. Most of you have your preference as it pertain to our next HC.

But let me remind you, NOBODY has more on the line here than John Dorsey. This will be a huge upgrade on his resume' if he gets it right. It will be a huge blemish on his resume' if he gets it wrong.

I have no clue who he will hire. Hopefully neither does he and he has an open mind going into the interview process. That's the fairest way and the best possible odds of coming to a winning conclusion IMO.

Do I have my own personal favorite? Yes I do. I like what GW has accomplished here and I think he's earned the job. I'm old school. I'm from ,"If it ain't broke don't fix it" generation. But I have no intention of allowing that to cloud my judgement.

I'm also old school in believing that, "Respect is earned and not given". In the short time Dorsey has been here, he has totally overhauled this roster. He has infused this team with so much talent. It's a remarkable turn of events that happened so quickly, I could not have even envisioned it myself.

Therefore, I will trust Dorsey's judgement unless and until such time as he's given me just cause to doubt him. So many people it seems think they have more insight to these candidates than Dorsey does. That they have the answer. That they'll be so disappointed if this guy is hired or that guy isn't hired.

Not me. I'm going to trust the man who has gotten us to where we are today more than some Monday morning QB's on a message board.


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I don’t agree King John has a lot more on the line that any of us ... financially sure ...

I’ve INVESTED about 50 years of my life in LOVING THIS TEAM ... whats that worth? ...

And bro ... I’LL GUARANTEE U IF WE WIN A SB ... it’s gonna mean a hell of a lot more to US that anyone in the org. From the thief on down ... NONE OF THEM HAVE THE INVESTMENT IN THIS TEAM WE DO ... thumbsup

Sorry dawg ... i dont agree with that statment ...





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There wil be others from playoff teams. I can almost guarantee Tuab from KC if they let him. They need to give permission because he is an assistant HC.

Zac Taylor LA Rams Qb Coach is a possibility
Surely others


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They need to give permission because he is an assistant HC.


Nope. Head coach is the only job you don’t need permission. Literally every other job you need permission.

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Well you don't have to agree. But none of us stand to gain immortality in the hearts and minds of Browns fans everywhere and the claim of building a dynasty in Cleveland.


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They need to give permission because he is an assistant HC.


Nope. Head coach is the only job you don’t need permission. Literally every other job you need permission.


I am pretty sure that is for assistant coaches but if they have the assistant HC title then hey need to give permission.


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Gee thanks for allowing me to not agree ... rolleyes ...

And ya ... i’m sure he goes to bed every night with that goal in mind ... gee i cant wait for Pit to think i’m IMMORTAL ...

Pretty sure the IMMORTALITY thing was the con that swung him to take our job ... pleaseeeeee ... like his immortality is why he has more riding on it that us ..

Pretty sure the fact some would put him on that pedestal would be the first clue .. WE HAVE WAY MORE RIDING ON IT THAT HIM ...

For him IMMORTALITY is a FRINGE BENIFIT .. for us ... ITS ALL THAT MATTERS ...

Checkmate ... thumbsup

PS. In case u need my permission ... its OK for u to not agree .. and u can also move your king out of harms way if u wish .. *L* ..

Happy New Year to U and yours bro .... thumbsup




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Well you didn't "need" my permission but a bit of gratitude for it would have been nice.

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I don't know Diam. I think you're a lot like I am. My reputation as a professional far outweighed my concern over customer satisfaction. If I lived up to my own standards, it went without saying my customers would be satisfied.

We just disagree. Our fandom isn't required. We have a choice. Okay, maybe we are addicted. But I'm not willing to fool myself into believing that my fandom outweighs the career of a man with a lot to lose.

Happy New Year to you as well my friend.


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Going from the worst ever to averageish is a huge leap.



5-3 from somebody else's mess who was 2-5-1 and 3-36-1 in their 2.5 year tenure. Is a little better than Averageish. I think the big LEAP is thinking that job was Average. tsktsk

this what you may but the job done was above average for sure. 10-6 would have us in the playoffs.

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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg


Based on the press conference this morning, i don't believe this to be "leaked". If so, there will be a press conference later today terminating contracts.

Teams and coaches may have confirmed the requests, but it likely wasn't leaked out of Berea.


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Hmmmm .... that sounds like a fair comparision ....

2 - 5 - 1 vs 5 - 3 is fair ....

Throwing in the first two years is BS unless u think the current staff could have went 20 - 12 with the worst roster in the league in 16 and literally no qb in 17 .... rofl ...

Honestly 15, 16 and 17 and what happenend under Hue here in 18 makes that 5 - 3 record these guys have against the comp we played look way more impressive that it actually is ..

We beat 4 really really bad football teams when we played them .... got basically trounced in two of the games we played against “good teams and lost to what IMO is a not good Balt. Team ... we did hit them on the upswing though ... exact opposite of our 5 victories against 4 teams ...

Beating a Jeff Driskel led Cinci team twice does not a RESUME MAKE ... thumbsup




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Originally Posted By: superbowldogg
Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg


Based on the press conference this morning, i don't believe this to be "leaked". If so, there will be a press conference later today terminating contracts.

Teams and coaches may have confirmed the requests, but it likely wasn't leaked out of Berea.


Leaks don't have to have come from Berea. Those leaks could have come from the teams those coaches are on right now.


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Throwing in the first two years is BS unless u think the current staff

Thanks once again for an insult of BS...

Maybe I have to dumb it down for you. The inclusion of the two seasons of 1-31 was to infer the mantra of LOSING that had to be turned around. It was part of the challenge to overcome.
These players were USE TO LOSING. We hadn't won a road game in 24 tries, We hadn't won back to back games since 2014. It was part of this team. Part of the character that was imbedded and a big part of what had to be turned around.

So just cause you couldn't understand what was meant and instead of asking me to elaborate you chose to throw BS at me. Ignorance is bliss I guess. Well that is what I meant...now if you state that is total BS then you don't know football tongue

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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
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Based on the press conference this morning, i don't believe this to be "leaked". If so, there will be a press conference later today terminating contracts.

Teams and coaches may have confirmed the requests, but it likely wasn't leaked out of Berea.


Leaks don't have to have come from Berea. Those leaks could have come from the teams those coaches are on right now.



Or their agents. But the lists don't really matter because you can probably figure if it's a viable interview, it'll happen.

Dorsey made it clear how it would go. The search will be comprehensive and complete. The search committee will come to a consensus and present their recommendation to the Haslams with the hope they'll rubber stamp it. It also seems clear Dorsey intends to let the process determine the recommendation.

In my view, I think the recommendation depends on how the committee gears their preconceived notions, and what it is they want to hear. Every coach will come in with a plan and a direction for the team. But the trigger could be something as simple as, "It's working, we're progressing, the team is playing at a high level and they've totally bought in. Let's upgrade the talent here, here & here, and let me finish what I started."

And this is where I have to trust Dorsey to trust the process. He may have a favorite candidate but, if he's true to himself, he doesn't know who it will be at this point. This is the premiere coaching job out there and, through the process, the cream will rise to the top. We have to wait until it happens like Dorsey and everyone else.


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Kitchens is kinda getting interesting. Outside of GW and McCarthy none of the others have much more on Freddie. Young and the ability to be very long term here is nice. GW didn't sound like a guy who knew or thought he was a lock in his presser. But shifting the attention from himself back to his squad was paramount to what I'd look for in a leader. We're in a good place...

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Originally Posted By: eotab
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Going from the worst ever to averageish is a huge leap.



5-3 from somebody else's mess who was 2-5-1 and 3-36-1 in their 2.5 year tenure. Is a little better than Averageish. I think the big LEAP is thinking that job was Average. tsktsk

this what you may but the job done was above average for sure. 10-6 would have us in the playoffs.

jmho


We'll see what the league thinks of Gregg Williams as a head coach in the coming weeks.

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Originally Posted By: Jester
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They need to give permission because he is an assistant HC.


Nope. Head coach is the only job you don’t need permission. Literally every other job you need permission.


I am pretty sure that is for assistant coaches but if they have the assistant HC title then hey need to give permission.


Nope. Head coach is the top, anything else is an assistant. Teams have to ask permission to talk to assistants for another non-head coaching job, but not for head coaching jobs.

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I'd guess most of us want to keep the existing coaches.

But at the same time Dorsey wouldnt be doing a good job if he didnt leave no stone unturned and evaluate all the options.

He may very well want to keep our coaches, but at the same time, he has to do his job.

So I dont see it as a reach to say he might keep things intact.


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