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versatile, you have made the point, rightly, that the lack of success patriot backup quarterbacks have had when traded has nothing to do with how much success jimmy g has if he is traded. that how good hoyer, cassell or mallet have become has zero to do with how good jimmy g. can become. i agree with you. so too, the lack of success previous coaching changes have had has zero to do with the the success greg w. will have.

i think there is a very good chance our defense will be improved. four reasons i believe this.
first. we have a number of rookie defenders going in to their second year. i have often heard players usually show significant improvement between year 1 and 2. so if nassib, ogbah et al show that improvement that will help.

second, we have five picks in the top 65. i think we will use at least 3 of them for defenders. that should be a substantial infusion of what we lack, talent.

third, i think we will sign collins to a long term agreement. his continued presence will make us better.

fourth, i think Williams will make us a more aggressive, more motivated defense.

I am less certain of this final point but I hope we sign 1-2 high quality free agents on defense. starter quality guys. roll it all together and i see a better defense.

Chargers hired Gus Bradley as defensive coordinator.

Bradley previously flirted with the Redskins and drew interest from the 49ers. A Pete Carroll disciple, Bradley installed a Cover 3 scheme in Jacksonville and the defense was coming together nicely with a young talent core just as Bradley was fired. In Jason Verrett and Casey Hayward, and Joey Bosa, Bradley is inheriting a Chargers defense with some important building blocks in place.

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Redskins hired Kevin O'Connell as QB coach.

O'Connell was fired after one season as Cleveland's quarterbacks coach. He spent last year as an offensive assistant with the 49ers. O'Connell's hiring confirms Matt Cavanaugh will be promoted to offensive coordinator. Coach Jay Gruden is expected to call plays in 2017.

Source: Bruce Feldman on Twitter

Jaguars hired Keenan McCardell as WRs coach.

It's a reunion after McCardell spent most of his playing career in Jacksonville. McCardell had a previous stint as Washington's receivers coach, but hasn't been in the NFL since 2011. He's another hire with strong ties to EVP Tom Coughlin. McCardell will look to turn the careers of Allen Robinson and Allen Hurns after down seasons.

http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football/?ls=roto:nfl:morenewsbottom

Link for those 3 posts

That's a good hire by SD.

Yes. Seriously. In what place is 'Seriously' even a response to a question?

If you haven't heard any word just say so.
I do not live in the Cleveland areas and often there are local rumblings about potential hires.

That is my question for those living in the area has there been any new (after Greg Roman) word on potential OC candidates.

"Vikings
Bruce Feldman reports that UCLA is hiring Vikings assistant offensive line coach Hank Fraley as their new offensive line coach."

Congrats to Hank

Where is my LOVE button

Very happy for Hank... Heck of a guy... wife was nice also, I think her name was Danielle or something like that right?

I live in NE Ohio and no, not a word except that after Pep Hamilton left, I think (rumors) I was told by someone reporter that Hue Jackson said he'd continue to call plays.
So the answer is, I've not heard or read a word about hiring an OC..

Hank is In Florida today. He is Getting ready to coach in the east west shrine game.

Hue Jackson can be the playcaller without being the Offensive Coordinator.

Most HC that call plays usually aren't the offensive coordinator as well.

The OC and QB coach vacancies are very important hires imo. I guess I'm the only one *shrugs*...

I think that Hue will add a coach or 2 on the offensive side. Pep ran practices on the offensive side last year, helped coordinate the passing game, while also coaching the QBs. I don't think that he'll be replaced by just flipping a few coaches's responsibilities around.

He was just knocking your opinion because he doesn't think Hue will go out and get an OC and/or no OC worth his salt would want to sign w/this team and he wants to put a happy spin on it. Mocking you was his way of getting that message across.

Not having an OC would be ignorant, but hey, we're the Browns. What's new?

Hue was the OC last year and I don't see him hiring someone to fill that role.

If "Seriously?" was all I wrote in response to your inquiry, then I think you'd have legitimate cause to be upset in my response. But my bad if the way I wrote it made seemed offensive. I wrote that expression as part of my response because I find you as someone who follows the Browns a ton and knows a lot of football. In terms of X's and O's, far more than me. So when I saw your reply, I was a bit taken back by it because of the term you used, "OC". Pep was not the Offensive Coordinator. We didn't have an OC last year. Well, we did have one, but it was Hue Jackson. I don't see us hiring an OC in the way that term is used as I said in my original response to you. I don't see a experienced & proven OC candidate being hired because Hue presumably will still be calling the plays. This was my immediate reaction to the Greg Roman rumors. I even think the hiring of Williams further emphasizes that point so he can focus more on the offense and trust Gregg with the defense 100%.

I see someone like Al Saunders filling in that role that Pep left or hiring some up and comer to the role who is not ready to take over play calling.

This isn't 'coach movement' but I wasn't starting another thread....


https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/822899563551981568

I think this is the right move but whoever takes over has even less time than other FO turnovers to prepare for the draft and see if what the new personnel lead thinks aligns with the current scouts.

I wonder if the Peyton rumors carry weight.

What a mess. Pagano is screwed.

This is totally something we'd do.

"Manning is not a serious candidate for the general manager opening, though Irsay will continue to leave the door open for a future role."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...iring-ruled-out

Have we established whether or not he's even a good HC?

Felt bad for the dude, but they shoulda just kept Arians.

I don't think he is a good coach, but that does mean I don't have empathy for his situation.

Hue Jackson will take on more of Pep Hamilton's role and promote Greg Seamon to QB coach

CLEVELAND, Ohio - Hue Jackson is so comfortable with Gregg Williams running the defense that he's leaning towards not replacing Pep Hamilton and focusing more on offense.

Hamilton, who left after one season here to run the Michigan offense under Jim Harbaugh, coached the quarterbacks and was associated head coach/offense.

But with Williams taking over for fired defensive coordinator Ray Horton, Jackson feels comfortable leaving the defense in his capable hands and focusing more on offense.

In addition, he'll promote Greg Seamon from tight ends to quarterbacks coach and shift Mark Hutson to from assistant offensive line to tight ends.

If it all goes well in Mobile, Ala. this week at the Senior Bowl, where Jackson and his staff are coaching the South team, Jackson might not fill Hamilton's position.

"I'm leaning towards that right now,'' he told cleveland.com. "The staff we have down here is the staff we have and so I want to see. I've made some adjustments there. Greg Seamon will help me with the quarterbacks and we'll move Mark Hutson over to tight ends where he coached the tight ends with the Oakland Raiders.

"Greg Seamon was my quarterback coach in college (at University of Pacific) so he knows quarterback play and I trust him more than I trust a lot of people. I feel good about where we are right now but if I feel like afterwards that I do need someone else, we have the potential position where we could hire someone else.''

Hue Jackson vows he won't hold it against Deshaun Watson that he's skipping the Senior Bowl.

Jackson said he was sorry to lose Hamilton but "we're kind of set up to weather that situation with myself being the primary playcaller on offense and involved with the quarterbacks. I just needed someone who was really going to help guide that position when I'm not around. And I see the potential of me being even more involved on offense now that Gregg's here. I feel good about that. Not that I won't make sure that all the T's are crossed and the i's are dotted, but I feel very good about the vision that I have for our defense finally coming to fruition.

"I'm going to be over there, so I don't really necessarily have to have another person. We have enough people on our staff now where we can reshuffle some guys and still be able to maintain and being able to get done what we need to get done.''

Although the Senior Bowl is a quasi-job fair for unemployed NFL assistants, Jackson has no plans to interview anyone in Mobile.

"I'm going to try to steer away from that,'' he said. "I've tried to tell guys, I'm really here to evaluate this team and coach this football team. I'm not really here for interviews. If I'm going to do that, I'll do that in the future sometime next week as we move forward.''

He's eager for his first taste of coaching with Williams, who was hired last week and delivered a passionate opening press conference. They've already spent a lot of time talking philosophy and personnel.

"He raises the level of the building,'' said Jackson. "He has a belief in how you play defense and it falls right in line with the vision that I have for our defensive football team. He wants to be very dominating on that side of the ball as we want to be on offense so, so far so good, it's a good marriage.''

Jackson, Williams and the rest of the staff will coach three practices on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, and then coach the South team in the game on Saturday at Ladd-Peebles Stadium. Williams bring 26 years' NFL coaching experience, including three as head coach of the Bills, which will be invaluable to Jackson.

"It's a tremendous opportunity for (him and Williams) to get the feel for each other, the flow of how we do thing and just being around each other in a practice environment other than being in a classroom,'' said Jackson. "He's been outstanding. He's a straight shooter and he knows defense extremely well and what we want it to look like. That was part of our interview process and that's why he's here. I think he'll bring a different mentality and temperament to our defensive football team.''

Likewise, Williams is excited to be on the same sideline as Jackson instead of snarling at him from across the field.

"This is going to be a good thing for Hue and I to get a feel for coaching with each other,'' he said. "I'm telling you, I can't wait to get on the field with him and coach with him because we have stared at each other across the sidelines and done some signals across the sideline that you don't want to put on TV. We have had those words and signals and that body language going. So we get a chance to get a feel for each other and have some fun down there.''

Jackson and Williams won't get to coach Deshaun Watson, but they have some of the best players in the game, including Alabama tight end O.J. Howard and

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/01/hue_jackson_will_take_on_more.html

I thought this would end up being the case. Hue remains "OC" and someone internally promoted to work with the QBs.

I think it is a mistake not to shuffle the deck with the offense staff.

It looks like the Falcons are going to hire Steve Sarkisian as their offensive coordinator.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/829007999331098625

This is weird because he just replaced Lane Kiffin at Alabama (and then Alabama hired another "co" offensive coordinator, Mike Locksley, to work with Sarkisian.)

Coaching stuff is weird.

The Falcons fired their defensive coordinator, Richard Smith, and defensive line coach, Bryan Cox.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18644...inator-position

I guess Dan Quinn took over defensive playcalling halfway through the season.

Yes. Under Rob Ryan, I believe.

Crazy to me how they got fired after going to the super bowl.

He was also a very good player.

Maybe it was them who convinced the offensive staff to abandon the run?

Jay Gruden gets two year extension:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/05/washington-gives-jay-gruden-two-year-extension/

Washington?

Is this really the first coach Dan Snyder has ever extended?

when is the last coach we extended? Crennel?

***Pats self on back***

(I had to do this after I threw myself under the bus in the Perriman thread.)

Tom Coughlin and Doug Marrone feels like a remake to Grumpy Old Men.

Interesting question.

I can't think of too many who have been extended. Marty wasn't...? No on Belichick. Romeo only one I can recall.

I kinda like Marrone. When we hired Pettine I was hopeful for Doug.

Fournette comes across as a bad seed. Not sure if he is or not, but something seems very off about the dude.

Coach killer.