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The owner doesnt need protection. Give him a 3 year deal show confidence in him. He can fire him anytime he wants. The owner will not be hurt by the loss of the money.

This would be my concern. Disrupting the chemistry with ego-driven decision making. Coming into a locker room that Baker has clearly already made his own.

But I can't rule him out as possibly being a great mentor for Baker, and good for our offense, possibly our team. Philosophically, GW's "Practice as hard as you play" approach is similar to Belichick's, but his "Culture trumps strategy" philosophy is miles apart. A coach that approaches scheming and preparation with equal weight may be something the committee is looking for and something that could help the team succeed.

Five black head coaches fired this year. Only two remain.

http://www.espn.com/videohub/video/clip/_/id/25655399/categoryid/4823314

I used to have a Napoleon themed chess set. The kings looked like McDaniels.

wonder who they are gonna pursue in FA/trade as far as QB's?

Flacco? Carr? no way they can stay with bortles, or it doesnt matter what changes they make.

They basically have to move on from Bortles. I've wondered if they can use a draft pick to move his contract like the Texans did with Osweiler (the Jaguars have negative cap space right now). I'd guess they'd be in on all the veteran QBs. There are basically no good options at this point though.

Maybe they all sucked? I don't think that this was the year owners decided to fire black coaches.


They made it to the head coach position. Head coaches have been fired after a few years for a long time.

One of the things that was being discussed in those shows this morning was how the coaches are taking the blame for poor front offices.

A few guys asked "how many GMs are being fired today?

I was wondering the same thing. Let's look at the Cardinals. They signed Bradford to big dollars and also paid Glennon pretty good money. They then draft Josh Rosen in the first round.

Meanwhile, they had the worst OL in football this year. Whose fault is that. The HC? One and done? Really?

I'm very thankful that the Browns got rid of the FO guy last year and brought in a real GM who is very good at evaluating talent and then evaluated the coach after some talent was brought in.

I feel the Browns are ahead of the other teams in regards to where they got rid of the inept FO guy first and have a good one in place and can now focus on the hiring the right HC for the team.

I'm not sure they will hire the right guy, but I like our odds better than a team like the Cardinals.

Flacco might make sense for JAX, but only if they can pull off an Osweiller type trade to dump Bortles' contract

Bortles plus some stuff for Winston?

Bortles plus some stuff for Manning?

They don't need a great QB.

What about Flacco or Teddy in Jacksonville?

Or Flacco w/the Giants?

Sure, but they are going to have to clear some cap space. Both guys will probably get close to $30 mil

The Bucs GM, who drafted Winston, says that the new coach has to work with Winston. He’s not going anywhere. Manning might be worse than Bortles at this point. Bridgewater is probably the most intriguing option.

Yeah, Winston is staying put in TB

Giants said the same thing about Manning, but that all changes after a team drafts a QB.

Manning is the same mediocre QB that everyone overrated for years. He just doesn't have a line now. Bridgewater would be the same problem in that Jax needs to clear cap space and that would be hard to do unless Bortles is involved in the trade.

I'm not sure that Jon Gruden is all in on Derek Carr. I could see him in Jax or with the Giants for the right deal.

Bortles, Fournette, 2nd rounder?

Bridgewater is a free agent.

We all know how this is going to end. . .

with Sam Bradford as the starting QB for another team somehow.

I know. One they can't afford unless somebody else takes on Bortles.

Bradford will get $50 mil a year from somebody, somehow.

Why does anyone think that another team would take on the Bortles contract? (not to mention his brokenness as a QB)

I don't think they would, unless the Jags attached a crazy amount of picks/players combo

Osweiler.

This. We take Bortles contract along with a second round pick. Too bad we didn’t have Taylor under contract. We could offer him up.

what if the Jags say to the Colts or Jets (or someone else with cap space and a need at RB)

Take Fournette, Bortles and their contracts and a mid round pick

They should be able to move Fournette for something valuable.

For as much as we got criticized for the osweiler trade, I don't think there are many teams who would consider doing it. Though it did yield us Nick Chubb, so guess we win.

Who criticized us? I thought most people applauded the move.

Some criticized ... namely Bill Polian IIRC

Really? We got made fun of by most of the sports talk shows, both tv and radio

Seems like on here it was split about 50/50

Sorry, I don’t really focus too much on that type of stuff. Most articles I read at the time were pretty favorable.

Worked before....we have the money.

Bill Polian was the most vocal. He was completely outraged that we we would do something that is done in the NBA. That's not how the NFL works. That's what happens when you have a baseball guy running things.

Then we got mocked for paying osweiler $16 million and he wasn't even on our roster.