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Only in America could a President achieve the lowest ever Black & Hispanic unemployment, have Black business startups skyrocket 400%, see wages go up for Black workers, sighed prison reform, pardon wrongfully convicted people of color AND STILL BE CALLED A RACIST!

I would be interested to see some replys on this , especially guys like PDF, OCD, Swish, Chs SPrial,.PIT,

Is everything about Race?

I say no.

Why can't it just be, "all" unemployment, all wages increase, all business startups.

what did Trump "achieve", specifically?



looks like the unemployment numbers going down started under obama. what do you want us to give Trump credit for? not screwing it up yet?

all the credible charts, no matter what trash comments you're about to state, says the same thing.

it started under obama, which went to about 17%, down to right below 8% under his watch.

even if you want to include the 2017 year, which was still obama's economy until oct 2017, under Trump, the unemployment number went from right below 8% to.....just above 6% currently?

and you want me to give trump credit for that? lol please.

I know it hurts Swish.....And the next time you get Gas Swish give us another Thanks Mr President of the United States Trump

what hurts? the fact that everyone in america, but specifically minorties, have done better under obama and continued under trump?

why would fellow americans doing good hurt me? what a ridiculous statement.

and its funny that you talk about gas prices, when you was one of the posters under obama saying that presidents have no control over gas prices.

now you're giving trump credit for gas prices? at least you admit you're a flip flopper. i wouldn't know what that feels like, but i empathize with you.

The point is understood. Wouldn't an obvious and overt racist like Trump be actively working against the ways that are working for minority folk?

Here's your reply, He didn't do a damn thing.., All he did was let the trend that was already working to continue without getting in the way. That's it....

My question remains however, wouldn't an overt racist at LEAST be passively fighting those trends and not lauding them as a huge win for the people?

No he wouldn't. Because the same thing that helps those minorities are helping all workers. To hurt minority unemployment you would hurt it all.

You see there's a difference in what some are saying and what I believe here. Trump certainly has tendencies that can appear to be racist. Wouldn't you say refusing to ever allow blacks to handle any money in your casinos to sound racist? There's an entire generation of Trump's age that have no idea that some of the things they do sound and seem racist. But it most certainly does none the less.

Context is always important. If it was a blanket statement, no blacks can handle money then absolutely.

If he found that a disproportionate amount of blacks were mishandling the money, is it racist to move to a more efficient team?

I agree with you "all" but the liberals created and use "identity " politics and it aint going away till it doesnt work for them and they could care less what that is doing to our country IMO

Based on race?

Based on who is caught mishandling the money. Obviously I am using hypotheticals and the further we get down this road the more ridiculous it sounds.

Without knowing the reasoning behind the decision it's chasing the boogeyman. Now, if Trump just didn't (again hypothetical) like the "look" of blacks handling money then it leads more credence to being a racist.

The "why" matters, if I found most of my white employees were leaving early or forging documents I would stop giving them important projects.

And you think he's not? Look around at the Hate Crimes against blacks and anyone of color. We've always had racists in this country, but for the most part, they stayed out of the news because they knew they'd get trashed for it.

Today, under this president, Racism has a face, it's accepted,, Hate has a face, it's accepted.

So yeah, I think he isn't doing anything to help it, he's just taking credit for something that's been trending up since about 2011! Typical Trump... one lie after another.

I'm starting to believe that nothing is going to please you lefties. I don't think O did anything for minorities except give away free phones. Bush did more and Trump did more,But if you guys want to give O all the credit have at it. I'm sure I,m not going to change your mind.

And Swish, I know Presidents don't have control over gas prices. I was just pulling your chain. I remember when gas prices were high and all the left and media were crying about Bush and his oil buddies.

O didn't do anything but bow and scrape to foreign leaders, throw Isreal under the bus and create hate and discontent. Now I hear the media telling me O and big Mike are the most poplar people in the world. Makes me sick.

The proof is right here on this thread ... but you choose to deny it. There's nothing more to be said.

Yeah - I was trying to figure out how to respond to this.

I don't know whether the POTUS is actually a hardcore racist ... (if true / verifiable) the story about the casinos and who handled his money is without doubt racial discrimination - no wiggle room there.

However as POTUS what he has done that is much more insidious is give racism and white supremacy groups acceptance and attention. He without doubt knew who David Duke was but refused to decline his endorsement. He's played to the White Nationalists because they support him. After the tragedy in Charlottesville that occurred at a White Nationalist rally he said there were good people on both sides - he clearly did not want to alienate himself from that crowd....

So whether he truly identifies with those groups and those ideologists is almost irrelevant because his actions have enabled the racists to have a stronger presence and be more accepted than ever - so his actions and the result of his actions are that of a racist.

Meanwhile, everyone on the left refuses to discuss the highest high school dropout rate among all ethnic groups, the highest rate of teen pregnancy, and a rate of parental abandonment approaching 70% while continuing to whine about how white people are the be-all and end-all of the problem. Don't bother flapping your yap about how you talk about these things all the time.

You do not wish to end racial problems, you desire to wallow in it. That's fine, have at it, but there will be no more cash coming from my wallet to build yet another housing project, to watch it turn to crap in 20 years, tear it down, build another, and repeat the process. I am all done footing the bill.

Rip down some more flags, tear down some more statues, tell everybody how wonderful you are while you do absolutely nothing about the problem. Help Rocket rename another mountain on a map, and pat yourselves on the back for your accomplishment.

I have no interest in and will not support such foolishness. You are on your own, reach for my wallet again and you will draw back a bloody stump.

I was gonna actually respond with a well thought out post, but because it’s you, I’ll post a very simple one.

You don’t have a choice lolololololololol. We’ve established a while ago you think you’re superior to black peoole. You said it yourself when I asked.

But the only way you get to not support something is to not pay taxes. Good luck with that.

Also, nobody cares what Nelson supports, because Nelson doesn’t matter.

eh, I think you have one thing right. Racism has always been there. I just think that Obama brought it (rightfully) to the forefront and literally ever since the media has sensationalized racism. They were around PLENTY during the Obama years and getting PLENTY of media coverage during his presidency, so nothing has really changed but the President is white and republican so he is definitely a racist.

There has also been a number of hoaxes recently. The most glaring being the little boy who said he was kidnapped by white people with "I Hate (n words)" tattooed on their arm which was a media sensation, got no media coverage after it turned out he was making it all up.

What a claim. What is your source? What ethnic group are you talking about? Why do you think this group struggles with it?



So you don’t do well with cognitive dissonance. It’s nice to see you get the problem, but said you basically reply with “I’M NOT LISTENING!!! All of you must be wrong!”



An oppressed minority allows me to live in their community for nine months a year, they let me educate their children, and I do outreach work to include them more in the education process. Glad to know you think that means absolutely nothing to the future of our country.

What do you know about Alaska Natives?



Glad to know you support colonialism. I’m sure you and Chris Columbus would be best buds.



Who exactly on here are you threatening bodily harm to?

Watch out, or he’ll get you with an ice cream cone!

Nelson increasingly comes off as some deranged Batman villain.

Or one of these...

He most definitely is a racist.

He's been fined twice by the Justice Department for ordering employees to mark the housing applications of blacks with a "C" for "colored", so they could be discarded.

He was fined twice by the New Jersey Gaming Commission for ordering black employees off the floor when he and his friends were gambling.

He ran a series of ads in the 1990's depicting Native Americans as alcoholics and drug addicts with the tagline "do we really want these people as our neighbors?"

He once told an interviewer that he doesn't allow blacks to handle his money ("only guys with yarmulkes"). He also said in the same interview that blacks were "lazy". When asked in 2014 if he made these statements he said "probably"

He named Jeff Sessions, a man denied a federal judge seat specifically because he was too racist, the head of the DOJ, and also named Steve Bannon, the editor of Breitbart, to his chief of staff.

He complained that the judge hearing his fraud case should be recused because "he's Mexican"

After the Central Park Five were acquitted by DNA evidence, Trump called for them to be executed anyway because they were "subhuman, almost animals".

Two years ago, he tweeted out a graphic from the white supremacy website Stormfront that claimed that 81% of white homicide victims were killed by blacks (the number is 12%)



There are plenty more examples, but seriously Dawg Duty, what did you think you would get out of "Hey, everybody, this guy whose entire life has been marked by racism? What if I pretended he wasn't racist? I'd like to hear some of you answer to *that*"?

I do like some of the prison reform initiatives, but let’s face it - that’s because Kim Kardashian complimented his tie. I’ve long said that the Democrats should use the fact that Trump is a facile child who really just wants praise and compliments. They should pitch a Medicare for All bill called TrumpCare and talk about how smart it would be for Trump to sign it. He’d do it immediately.

They'll ignore all of this and the good points brought up by others and focus on the economy. For those who hate liberals, they all just parrot James carville. It's the economy, stupid. of course this is under the guise of actually wanting to talk about issues.

Yeah, any time this comes up, I like to ask -

When he tweeted out a racist graphic from the world’s largest white supremacy website, do you think it was nerfarious, or is it just that he’s so dumb that he actually believed that 81% of white homicide victims are killed by blacks?

I’ve never even gotten an attempt at an answer.

Yeah, every black person he employed didn't know how to handle money. You're REALLY reaching on this one.

Trump casinos

Trump branched out from residential real estate into the casino business in the 1980s. Employees revealed a pattern of racism. In a tell-all book, former president of the Trump Plaza Casino John O’Donnell said Trump once told him: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”

Another former Trump employee told the New Yorker that black staff were hidden from Trump when he visited the casino with his wife. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” said Kip Brown.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018...career-and-life

Now that you got replies,,, are you ready to admit, Trump and his father were Racists? Or will you remain blind

Wait, what the hell does the price of gas have to do with racism?

I used that as a hypothetical example of how it could make business sense and you turned it around as if I said that was the matter of fact.

This is the same as believing everything Basely Ford says. Sure it sounds like something that could have happened. That sounds an awful lot like he said she said. I am not saying he isn't racist, what I am saying is that you just gave me two examples of people saying they heard Trump say something while trying to sell a book.

It is very likely that a lot of this is true, given his age, the way he grew up and the area/environment he grew up in. What I am trying to convey as it pertains to this thread is that I have not seen any piece of legislation or any concrete evidence that this man is actively being racist toward black people AS PRESIDENT.


The leftist on this board think that if you said the N word 30 years ago, that must means 30 years later you want to bring back Jim Crow. The scarlet letter of our modern time....oh look he told an off color joke about jews and blackss 25 years ago, what a racist.

Good point. A lot of people said stupid stuff 30 years ago. Time for Liberals to get over themselves.

the tweet pdr posted that trump retweeted was 2 years ago. you're only 28 years off so its all good....

I think we can all agree that Trump is a ahole and needs to put a filter on his mouth, but will you agree that he has done more for America than any President in a long time, Black or White.

no, because that isn't close to being true.

I understand what you're saying. It just seemed as though you were going out of your way to create a non existent scenario.

Our boy Nelson- internet tough guy.
Yeah- we sooooo scared.







doubtless

...... As I slowly reach for Nelson's wallet. I never could resist a good challenge.

You have gotten absolutely nothing from my wallet for quite some time. No luck required, just some careful reading.

Swish, you need to learn how to do that. You have demonstrated a severe lack of reading comprehension on multiple occasions, and have now misquoted me twice. I never said anything remotely resembling your claim, just like your statement that I said I never use Google search. Your statements are false.

Continue with your whining.

lol, a lack of reading comprehension? is this coming from the same guy who got confused over his OWN rules in the spaceship thread? lmfao