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if we don't hire GW, he'll definitely get a DC job ... if not a few other interviews.

But, has he gotten any interviews for other jobs right now? Not that I've heard

I don't want McCarthy either; GB's offense just seemed to lack anything creative or innovative. It seemed like all Rodgers

McCarthy would be perfect for Rosen for those exact reasons lol

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Just saw that McDaniels declined the Bengals interview request.

He must have promises in New England, or is holding out for 1 dream job.

The Bengals job is awful. I believe he is interviewing with the Packers.

I think that a hot coaching candidate could put conditions in place prior to taking the Bengals job.

Plus, you can count on the next head coach finishing his contract, unless he completely flops.

One of the interesting aspects of hiring Campbell would be that he would almost certainly hire an OC and DC. He would not be in charge of either unit and he can oversee both and take care of all the other HC duties.

That means we could retain Kitchens and GW. I think Kitchens and Baker have a good relationship and that's important.

Btw--------who is the guy that Baker is always talking to on the sidelines? Is that one of the coaches or is it Drew Stanton in street clothes?

I really like Campbell .. thought he did a great job as interim in Miami ... had my eye on him ever since ... I mentioned him way back on my wish list ...

I would be THRILLED if he gets the nod ...

Just curious .... where is Chud now? .. anyone know? ...

Chud was the OC in Indy the last couple of years, but he may have been fired after last season. I know they have a new OC.

So your not sure ... thanks for that ...this sarcasm thing is fun .. *L* ...

Just googled him .. looks like hes out of football ... either that or Wikipedia hasn’t been updated since he was let go last year ...

Baker spends a lot of time talking to Stanton on the sidelines.

I thought that might be him. Thus, I think we need to keep Stanton around one way or another.

Why the rolleyes? My comment was about Kitchens being linked to Tampa as OC if Arians gets the head position. We don't have to allow Kitchens to go anywhere for a lateral move.

New England is only a dream job if Brady remains able to play at a high level.. Without him, we're a better option.

Actually, since, Brady is nearing the end of his career, We may well be a better option right now.

I'm trying to think which long time Asst of Belicheck went on to have great success in the NFL as a HC? Is there one?

Did not know that .... thats what i get for ASSuming ...

I thought u meant he had no shot at a HC job ...

Sorry ...

Happy New Years to U and yours Mr. peen ...

I agree. It is probably just a case of the guynot wanting to go to Cincy...or maybe he is waiting for Bill to retire and him stepping in to the position.

Hes all ready got oneor two interviews set up ..

Zona and Bungles are the browns of the past ... there gonna settle for there 4th or 5th choice ... much like we did other than when we hired Hue .. he was the “hot” candidate in the league that year ...

Dont get me wrong i wpuldnt moind at all williams being the coach, just don't think Dorsey wants him to be

I think a word of caution is in order.

I think it's great that the team is looking better and is getting positive press. I find it delightful that long-suffering fans now have hope. But, I think we may be getting carried away.

I keep reading we have the best this, the best that, the best this and the best that.

I am hopeful, but we beat exactly one team w/a winning record this year. That was Baltimore and then we lost to them in the last game of the year.

We did tie Pittsburgh in game one but got drilled in the rematch.

We did play NO very tough and should have won.

But, we lost to everyone else who had a winning record this year.

The Chargers, Steelers, Chiefs, Saints, Ravens, and Texans.

That means we were 1--6--1 against teams w/winning records.

I think the talent on this team has greatly improved in just one year, but I'm not sure we are the best at anything yet.

My fear is that whomever is hired at HC will have to deal w/a ton of media and fan pressure should they not win as many games as our fan-base seems to think we will.

Hope is cool. Enthusiasm is great. Lofty expectations w/out factual support can be "dangerous."

I agree with you completely. But I do think the big picture means a lot. First there is the evidence of the team Dorsey drafted and had a major hand in bulding at K.C.

There's his first draft here and in one year brought a team to a respectable level. The potential shown from this team since the coaching change.

So on the one hand I believe the fan base should keep their expectations a little more level headed. Yet at the same time with Mayfield at QB and how much this team improved in only one season, I think any coaching candidate would view the Browns as a great opportunity.

Aaron Rogers is 35. So while Green Bay may be a very attractive destination, the window isn't a very long one. Three to five years I'd guess. For a coach wanting a long term job where he would be viewed as helping build a winner, we are as attractive a destination I can think of given the openings available.

I said the exact same thing in the Post Game thoughts thread.

Many have us already penciled in as winning the division. Easy there killers.

I agree w/you.

For the record, I am personally hopeful and I think the reasons for optimism are legit.

As a former coach, I do recognize the dangers of expectations that are too high.

I think there is a difference between hope and expectations when you have absolutely no control over the situation.

I don't think there is anything wrong w/being hopeful and excited while maintaining conservative expectations for a team we can't help make better ourselves because we don't play or coach them. We just watch and opine on the team.

I do think the wrath of the media and fans can derail things if a team doesn't immediately meet very lofty expectations.

Sometimes, it's okay to be "conservative," bro.

What I find amusing is how people seem to be making predictions about winning the division next year before the FA signing period and draft. Not only do we not know what our roster will look like next year, or who our coaches will be, but we don't know that about next years opponents either.

Freddie, lindley, Stanton and baker are always together.

We are considered the best job because of what kitchens did with this offense. When he took over, we needed 4 or 5 receivers, TE was nothing but a flash and disappointment. OL was horrendous. Baker appeared to have lost his confidence and looked like the typical browns rookie QB, dazed and confused. The o,my position looking good with the O was RB and who,was coaching them?

No offense, but I think the OL played well all year.

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#Browns OC Freddie Kitchens, who will interview for CLE's HC job early next week, has received several requests for vacant coordinator jobs, source said. The team has declined those for now, as Kitchens is under contract. They want the new HC to have an opportunity to hire him.

I'd take a slightly different approach and say that they started out ok and improved throughout the year. They started a little slow, but I think that's mostly due to injuries (our LTs and Zeitler) out of the gate and some shuffling (LT). I think there was some disappointment in how the interior line was playing earlier in the year, but they picked it up bigtime throughout the season.

Yup,, Couple the young talent we have, what we can get in the this off season and of course, Baker (part of the young talent of course) We may well be the most attractive job in the league.. Let's not forget the rabid fanbase

All good things... Great upside.. The right guy comes in here and he could be the next big thing.

Browns have denied teams permission to interview Freddie Kitchens for OC jobs

Updated 4:34 PM; Posted 3:35 PM


https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/01...per-report.html

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2019/1/2/18165336/nfl-news-bengals-hue-jackson-raiders-browns

Hue being interviewed for Bengals job.

As cheap as they are - he has to be a front runner right? I believe they are only on the hook for any salary over what he was due here in Cleveland??

Which is why they are interested in Vance Joseph also.

Hue might also end up in Minnesota with Mike Zimmer as the OC.

Following Bellicheck would seem to come with a lot of potential problems. If Brady goes as well as Bellicheck. What are the odds that the Patriots take a couple steps back for a few years. Imagine being the guy who follows BB and goes .500 for a couple years while they rebuild. Seems like it might be good time to get out of New England and let someone else take the hit in the post BB era.

I’m not sure why McDaniels would still be taking interviews if he was told he would be the next head coach after Belichick.

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1690692


The Browns landing Arians would be a home-run hire as they search for a coach who can make the most of Baker Mayfield's seemingly limitless potential.

The former Cardinals coach has a lengthy track record of getting high-level play out of his quarterbacks, a star-studded list that includes Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Andrew Luck, and Carson Palmer. He also boasts a 49-30-1 record as a head coach.

That Arians is even a candidate, let alone one who openly expressed a desire to coach in Cleveland, is a true indicator of how far the Browns have come. It wasn't long ago that ownership would have been hard-pressed to generate any interest from marquee coaches. And even if the 66-year-old would only be willing to put in four-to-five years before retiring again, there's plenty of upside to having a coach of his caliber step in and oversee the next stage for a team finally heading in the right direction.

Adding to the intrigue of this fit is the history between Arians and Freddie Kitchens, particularly after the Browns' late-season offensive development energized the fan base. A position coach on Arians' staff for all six of his seasons in Arizona, Kitchens would be an obvious choice to remain on the Browns as offensive coordinator and be groomed under Arians to become his eventual successor. And given the success the Browns' defense enjoyed in 2018, perhaps Gregg Williams could stay on as the defensive coordinator, too. - Wilkins

Packers - Josh McDaniels

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McDaniels backed out of the Colts’ head coach job last offseason, but the Packers should look past any worries about his trustworthiness and give one of football’s premier play-callers - and a coordinator who keeps maximizing Tom Brady’s talent as the passer ages - a chance to reboot their stagnant offense.

In Aaron Rodgers, McDaniels would be paired with probably the only pivot who's an upgrade over Tom Brady in both physical ability and quarterback intelligence. That should be impossible to resist, even with McDaniels' prior hesitation about leaving the comfort of New England.

Sure, Rodgers can be a hothead and quick to blame teammates - and now-former coaches - for the Packers’ failings. But is his perfectionism and occasional petulance really that different from Brady’s behavior?

McDaniels has never shied away from a sideline shouting match with Brady. He could command the same respect from Rodgers while coaxing out a similar sky-high level of play. Personal relationships matter less when the team is winning.

The Packers have wasted far too many seasons of Rodgers in Mike McCarthy’s stale offense. A template for getting maximum production from an aging star quarterback exists, and McDaniels created it. - Woods

Buccaneers - Mike McCarthy

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McCarthy will be a polarizing hire no matter where he ends up next. On one hand, he's a respected leader with an impressive resume that includes 125 regular-season wins, another 18 in the playoffs, and a Super Bowl title. On the other, he's responsible for a Packers offense that somehow fell apart with one of the greatest quarterbacks ever under center.

The latter issue will dictate most of the conversation when he eventually finds a new home, but that doesn't mean McCarthy can't still be a positive addition for a team like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. If reports of a deteriorating relationship between McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers are to be believed, it's also fair to suggest that his quarterback, who has a tendency to hold onto the ball and improvise, put the head coach in a pretty difficult situation.

Rodgers is incredibly talented, but let's not forget it was McCarthy who oversaw his early development. With a fresh start, the coach could help Jameis Winston finally put it all together, or he would have the talent-evaluation eye to draft and develop the veteran's eventual replacement.

McCarthy's connections would allow him to assemble a strong staff in Tampa Bay. And since Jason Licht may not be long for the general manager role, this could be a spot where McCarthy gets some significant say, if not full control, when it comes to personnel. - Wilkins

Dolphins - Jim Harbaugh

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Dolphins owner Stephen Ross loves Jim Harbaugh. The Michigan benefactor has tried to hide his affection, flatly stating in late December that his team won't pursue the 55-year-old Wolverines head coach, but no one really buys it.

Adam Gase was still head coach of the Dolphins when Ross issued that denial. Now he's gone, and Michigan suffered an embarrassing bowl defeat. After four years with the program, it's hard to call Harbaugh's run in maize and blue a success.

Harbaugh has a history of wearing out his welcome with teams after about five years. That happened in San Francisco and Stanford. It wouldn't surprise anyone if he's eyeing an exit from Michigan before things turn sour, and Miami could be a soft landing spot.

As Ross surveys the candidates for his vacancy, he might struggle to find a fit in the pro ranks. The Dolphins simply aren't an attractive destination for coaches because of the team's historically messy organizational structure and a lack of talent.

Ross could be desperate to make a splash, and Harbaugh could decide now is the time for a move. It won't be cheap, as Harbaugh is reportedly owed around $7 million each of the next three seasons in Ann Arbor, and surely won't want to leave that money on the table.

But Ross can easily make a problem like that disappear. With an estimated net worth of $7.6 billion, only the Rams' Stan Kroenke boasts a larger bank balance. - Woods

Jets - Kliff Kingsbury

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An innovative offense that puts its playmakers in position to succeed can be the difference between fielding a good team or a great team. Premier coaching, in that sense, has always been a major advantage, but the impact of a top-tier head coach has never have been more apparent than in today's offense-driven NFL.

Every team looking for a new head coach wants to get the next Sean McVay, Doug Pederson, or Matt Nagy. Kliff Kingsbury might be that guy for the New York Jets.

The offensive coordinator at Texas A&M for Johnny Manziel's Heisman Trophy season, and then the head coach at Texas Tech during Patrick Mahomes' college days, Kingsbury knows plenty about modern offensive football. He landed the USC offensive coordinator job this offseason after being dismissed from Texas Tech, but that merely seems to be a fallback option while he entertains interest from the NFL.

The Jets' priority during this coaching cycle should be to find someone who can get the most out of Sam Darnold. Rams quarterback Jared Goff improved immediately after the arrival of McVay, illustrating the possibilities for Darnold, a similarly talented young quarterback, with the right coaching fit.

Putting together a strong staff would be key, and Kingsbury could offer up the assistant head coach title to attract top defensive coordinators to run that side of the ball. As for the personality fit in a major media market: Doesn't Kingsbury just scream New York superstar? - Wilkins

Broncos - Vic Fangio

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Perennially overlooked as a head coach candidate, Fangio is a true defensive mastermind. Under his direction, the 2018 Bears rank third in total defense, seventh in pass defense, first in rush defense, first in points allowed per game, third in sacks, and first in takeaways. In San Francisco before that, Fangio coordinated the 49ers’ defense to similar heights and to several deep playoff runs.

Vance Joseph squandered what was recently the NFL’s most envied defense, but the Denver Broncos' ingredients for greatness remain. Swap Khalil Mack for Von Miller, and Leonard Floyd for Bradley Chubb, and it’s not hard to see Fangio repeating his defensive success.

If Fangio hasn't been considered as a head coach because he's too focused on defense, there's an easy fix. Hiring Fangio opens the door for John Elway to reinstall Gary Kubiak as the Broncos’ offensive coordinator, a direction Elway is rumored to desire. That could be a perfect pairing, with Kubiak resuming his play-calling prowess without the added stress of the top job. - Woods

Bengals - Vance Joseph

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The Bengals stuck with Marvin Lewis for 16 years even though he didn't win a playoff game, making it clear they find comfort in familiarity. So we shouldn't be expecting them to go in an entirely new direction now.

Hue Jackson is, of course, the first name that comes to mind when looking for ties to the organization. Ownership has long been fond of the now-former Browns head coach, and Lewis endorsed Jackson as his replacement. But the optics of hiring Jackson after his disastrous run in Cleveland may be too poor to justify the move.

Meanwhile, Joseph, whose rise through the coaching ranks included two years as the Bengals' defensive backs coach, is a more sensible option who still brings familiarity.

He's also fresh off being fired, but his time as the Broncos' head coach was nowhere near as calamitous as Jackson's tenure in Cleveland. In fact, after he was stuck with Trevor Siemian and Case Keenum at quarterback over the last two years, one could argue Joseph was set up to fail.

Highly regarded for his leadership qualities, Joseph has the potential to be successful with a second chance. Should that opportunity come in Cincinnati, he could run the team while focussing on the defense, keeping Jackson on staff as the offensive coordinator and assistant head coach. - Wilkins

Cardinals - Adam Gase

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Though pre-draft talk should always be taken with a grain of salt, an April report from Adam Beasley of the Miami Herald cited a source saying Gase was "obsessed" with Josh Rosen when he came out of UCLA. Gase being fond of Rosen would improve the chances of him being offered and taking the Cardinals job, and his guidance would provide a much-needed coaching upgrade after Rosen's difficult rookie season.

A disappointing three-year run in Miami doesn't appear likely to put a damper on Gase's status as a highly regarded coach in league circles. A longtime favorite of Peyton Manning, which no doubt helps his case in the eyes of some owners, Gase is still seen as an elite offensive mind. With some head coaching experience now under his belt, he could field multiple offers after making the rounds for interviews, and eventually join forces with a talented young quarterback out in Arizona.

Just picture what the Cardinals' offense might look like with a system that, unlike in 2018, doesn't waste one of the league's top running backs. David Johnson would have every opportunity to return to his All-Pro form in Gase's offense that helped the Dolphins average 4.7 yards per carry in 2018, with Frank Gore and Kenyan Drake combining for 1,257 rushing yards. - Wilkins