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Okay, not quite yet, but five (another location has been posted since this story published) will be open in under 18 hours. Let the healing begin!


https://www.cleveland.com/open/2019/01/f...-wednesday.html



By Laura Hancock, cleveland.com

COLUMBUS, Ohio – At least three of Ohio’s first medical marijuana dispensaries are going to limit how much patients can buy to ensure everyone will have product in the first days of sales.

Lines are expected to be long at the three dispensaries scheduled to open at 9 a.m. Wednesday -- one in Sandusky and two in Wintersville, near Steubenville, and one in Canton.

Patients have been waiting 33 months since the Ohio General Assembly passed the law legalizing medical marijuana. The law required the medical marijuana program to be fully operational Sept. 8. But that day passed without product on shelves, due to litigation, and issues the state had reviewing applications of medical marijuana businesses.

Cresco Labs’ CY+ Dispensary in Wintersville The Forest Sandusky in Sandusky and Ohio Valley Natural Relief LLC in Wintersville are opening Wednesday.

“Our goal is to accommodate all the patients and make sure they can get their medicine -- that’s what they’ve been waiting for,” said Jason Erkes, a spokesman for the CY+ Dispensary in Wintersville, owned by Cresco Labs, a cannabis company that operates in several states.

CY+ is going to limit sales to 2 ounces per person in the first week, Erkes said.

CY+ will have product from cultivators coming in all week to replenish supply that is sold. The dispensary will have close to 30 strains from three growers, he said.

On Wednesday, CY+ employees will give patients a number so they don’t have to stand in line, Erkes said.

“We have a hospitality tent set up so people can have hot chocolate and coffee and tables and chairs” where they can fill out paperwork, he said.

The first marijuana for sale will be in flower form since Ohio hasn’t given certificates of operation to processors who use THC from marijuana plants in edibles, oils, lotions and other products. Ohio law prohibits people from smoking marijuana, but they can vape the plant form.
Inside the Forest Sandusky, an Ohio medical marijuana dispensary in Sandusky. The Forest Sandusky is one of the first dispensaries expected to open.

In Sandusky, patients at The Forest Sandusky will be limited to 1 ounce, said CEO Erik Vaughn.

“Our consultants and advisers that are an important part of our team have been through these launches in a dozen other states,” Vaughn said. “We are prepared for what’s going to be a lot of interest in this historic moment. We expect to have adequate supply.”

The Forest Sandusky is expecting patients to purchase anywhere from about $60 to several hundreds of dollars in the first day. The company will charge about $50, plus tax, for a daily unit -- which is a 10th of an ounce of bud, Vaughn said.

Military veterans will get a 20 percent discount, he said.

At the Botanist in Canton, supplies will also be limited to accommodate high numbers of patients, said Caroline Henry, its communications officer.

The cap will be 14.2 grams, or five days' units. A day’s unit is 2.8 grams. The cost per day unit will b $40 to $60.

Each of the three stores cleveland.com talked to said it will only accepting payment in cash.

Patients must have one of 21 qualifying conditions, a recommendation from a physician who is certified in the medical marijuana program and be registered with the state to buy medical marijuana.

Also opening Wednesday is Ohio Valley Natural Relief, also in Wintersville. It’s unknown whether there will be sale limits. A message left at the dispensary was not immediately returned.

This story has been updated to reflect the Tuesday afternoon announcement of the fourth dispensary, The Botanist in Canton.

No shortage if they’d allow sales across state lines.
Oregon has over 1 million pounds of excess cannabis...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/...xcess-weed/amp/

If you have a ohio medical card you have been able to purchase is Michigan for a long time and $50 for a gram? Holy crap. For about $80 you can get a vape pen and a THC oil cartridge that will last one person for a long while and get you dummy hight with about 2 hits

I didn't see anything that said $50 per gram... one dispensary is charging $50 for "one tenth ounce", so that would be about $17.80 per gram. I think they're all setting prices high for the initial "surge". Wondering how long it will take for edibles to hit the shelves - looks like I'll have to buy some bud and make my own.

My referring doctor recommended Michigan but I didn't feel like making the drive or wondering if there would be any issues with an Ohio MMJ card.

That's about double the market rate down here. Not many people I know doing 2.8 grams a day, every day.

I have Not been impressed, AT ALL, with the THC vape cartridges. Not worthless, but nowhere near what King is describing. Been through a bunch, handy for stealth, but buzzworthiness is severely lacking.

They should take it across the northern border and sell it. I’m sure the Canadians won’t mind us just coming across to sell our products to their citizens, since pot is legal there.

Funny you should say that. So a couple months back I went up to BC to take some art to a festival. We had to go through the commercial vehicle checkpoint as we had tax forms and such to show. Anyway. The border guy asks us if we “have any guns... illegal drugs.... cannabis”. We say no to everything, which was the truth. Lol. But then he circled back around to the cannabis. He said, “you know why I asked you about cannabis?” We said no. He answer, “Cannabis is legal here now. So we want you buying ours not bringing yours.” We smiled, chuckled a bit. Eventually got the okay to go on our way.
He was a cool guy. He was right too. Shops were easy to find. The herb was pretty decent and a fair price.

Coming back... US border agents are...let’s just say...less cool. Both we dealt with seemed confused and unaware of state laws differing from each other. Washington requires plates on trailers. Oregon doesn’t. He got all agro about us not having a plate on ours. Even after we explained that Oregon doesn’t require them on trailers under 3000 pounds, he asked if we’d ever been pulled over in Washington for not having one? Then he wanted to see our trailer’s registration.... um... it’s unlicensed? Not sure if the guy was just dumb or trying to rattle us. Either way he was a douche. His partner was just as lost looking. She stayed quiet while he did the mental gymnastics of grasping at the idea that state laws could differ.
Eventually we were let back in to our own country.
Canadians are cool.

I kid you not. I see places advertising $3-5 grams out here. $60 ounces.
My guess is this is bottom shelf flower, but still.
Man the lengths I use to have to go at times to get a dime bag of hard, pressed, dried out, Mexican ditch weed filled with seeds and stems... the struggle was real. Times where town would ‘dry up’. Noting to be found...

There’s a new generation that’ll never understand.

Haha. Those were the good 'ole days. That Mexican dirt weed was terrible. My friend had got a qp once and showed it to me.
"Did someone run that over with a tank?"
Looked like a big brick of dried dog ish.

I read something lately that stated 1g of "Girl Scout Cookie" was cheaper than actual Girl Scout Cookies in Oregon.

That was part of the plan in Oregon... endless issuing of licenses, drive the price down, force mom and pop out of business so the large conglomerates can take over.

You know on some level that’s right. They did pretty much let anyone open a shop. And shops opened a plenty. But with this some of the mom and pop shops are surviving. A couple of those mom and pop shops are now buying up other shops that are going out of business because of profit margins being so low. The good is that is those mom and pops that fought through and made it had a chance. Unlike Ohio, from my understanding, where they only allowed a handful of growers and shop owners. That model priced out many of the mom and pop types of folks that may have had the skills to make it work. Just not the capital or lobbying power to get the chance at being one of Ohio’s select few.

Oregon is also different in that it’s a great place to grow. Our summers are super sunny and dry. No humidity and thunderstorms to contend with. Moisture equals mold. Etc.
Oregon also allows adults to grow four plant legally. Almost anyone that smokes knows someone that grows. If one grows four outdoor plants one can not smoke four plants worth of bud in a year by themselves. Period. Thus amongst friends of growers, cannabis is widely just given away.
The retail market has its work cut out for it to compete.

No wall on our Southern border?
Deal breaker.

Never liked Justin Trudeau. Limp-wristed lib in a tailored suit. Soft on Canadian sovereignty. Promised that Canada will welcome nearly one million immigrants over the next three years. That's a million headaches we True Canadians don't need. And don't get me started on those 'people' below us in the "Lower North America"...

'Staties' will be coming across the border with calves the size of cantaloupes from carrying all those 50k bales of stickyskunk on their backs. Destroying our hard-earned, penalty-free home-grown programmes with their illicit foreign product. That would be just aboot the last straw, eh?

This Proud Canadian is all for strong borders, ya know?

We Canadians don't need some ragtag band of interlopers from south of the border coming in and messing with the way things are.

When the U.S. sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending Us. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

BC to Lake Superior. Lake Ontario to The Atlantic. 10m high. 4m deep.
No excuses.
Get it done, eh?

"Oh, Canadaaaaa- our home and native(ist) laaaaand-"

Ohio's journey to legal MMJ has been corrupt from ballot to dispensary, every step of the way. Only the rich and well connected have been awarded licenses, and they made it easy on themselves from the beginning by making all licensing so expensive that very few could afford the upstart anyway.

We cannot be trusted to grow our own plants in Ohio, we would screw it up and hurt ourselves.

I followed it all closely in Ohio, and agree. It was crap legislation that got voted for as people were tired of waiting so they just said yes in a desire to get on with it already. Voter initiative fatigue. Say yes to bad legislation in hopes of changing it down the road. Instead of holding out for better legislation from the start.
I hope Ohio and it’s voters continue to push to craft a more sane policy around it.

I made that trip back in early July. Well worth it as I now sleep through the night, and was able to attend my first Browns game in a few years.

BTW I have been up since 3 am and will be heading out to get in line around 7 AM

That's awesome GM. I'm glad you're able to find relief! Let me know what the lines are like, I'm going tomorrow.

First medical marijuana sold in Ohio as dispensaries open

https://www.theolympian.com/news/business/article224608400.html

BY MARK GILLISPIE ASSOCIATED PRESS
JANUARY 16, 2019 09:37 AM,
UPDATED 12 MINUTES AGO






CLEVELAND
One of the first, if not the first, person to purchase medical marijuana in Ohio on Wednesday morning thinks the much-anticipated opening of dispensaries is a "great day" for the state.

"I think it's a big win for patients in Ohio," said Joan Caleodis, who has primary progressive multiple sclerosis, in a telephone interview after buying $200 worth of marijuana buds at CY+ Dispensary in eastern Ohio.

While Ohio has awarded provisional licenses to 56 dispensaries, only four opened Wednesday — two in Wintersville outside of Steubenville, including CY+. The other dispensaries are in Canton and Sandusky. A fifth that has received a certificate of operation from the state is expected to open sometime this week outside Cleveland.

Ohio law allows physicians to issue recommendations to patients with one of the state's 21 qualifying medical conditions. Only plant materials, known as flowers or buds, are being sold at this point. Products like edibles, tinctures and lotions won't be available until cannabis processing facilities are finally operating.

Alex Griffith, 30, drove five hours from Cincinnati to Wintersville on Wednesday and became the second sale at CY+. A former Marine infantryman who served in Afghanistan, Griffith has severe post-traumatic stress disorder and received a recommendation to use medical marijuana.

Griffith said he first used marijuana purchased by a friend in Las Vegas after he returned home from Afghanistan in 2014.

"I tried it and it was amazing," Griffith said.

He refused to buy marijuana off the street because of paranoia about being arrested and prosecuted even though the medication prescribed by the VA, he said, comes with "terrible" side effects that make him feel like he's "walking through mud."

"It just wasn't worth it, so I went back to pills," he said. "Now I can switch back to cannabis, stop the pills and get my quality of life back."

Caleodis said she has been using marijuana purchased outside Ohio by a friend for around four years, allowing her to stop using most of her prescription medications. Cannabis bought off the streets is often "dirt weed" that's far less potent than what's available in Ohio dispensaries.

She said she ate some cannabis edibles Tuesday evening and got a good night's sleep.

"I didn't want to be late for my first day," she said.

James Lynch, 53, of Washingtonville, was waiting with others to get inside CY+ on Wednesday. He has a physician recommendation to treat chronic pain caused by a back injury and neuropathy. Other doctors, he said, wouldn't prescribe pain pills once they learned he smoked marijuana.

Lynch complained about the high prices at the dispensary but planned to buy an ounce that would cost him around $500, which is far more expensive than street prices but likely of better quality. Lynch said he plans to ignore the Ohio law that forbids people from smoking medical marijuana.

"They can take the vape (pen) and throw it out the window," he said.

Ohio Senate Minority Leader Kenny Yuko, a Democrat from Richmond Heights and a staunch advocate of legalizing medical marijuana, issued a statement Wednesday saying he's happy for those who were able to buy medical cannabis, but criticized the state for the four-month delay in rolling out Ohio's program.

Yuko urged Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine to make full implementation of the medical marijuana program a priority.

"This is an opportunity for the new governor to do right by people who are suffering," he said.

Arrived by 8:30 Am and waited 3 hours in line at CY +. I talked to a guy who was number 85 in line when I left. I bet he is still waiting.

Glad your were able to buy your medicine. It’s a shame you had to wait so long. The fact they only opened a laughably few amount of dispensaries on ‘opening day’ is an insult to the voters and users of MMJ.
In the short term they need to get going and get more places open. No one is being made to wait 3 hours for their Oxycontin.
In the long term my hope is Ohio gets its head out of its butt and pushes for more policy changes. Patients should have the right to produce their own cannabis. Not everyone can or will but they should be allowed to. (Actually all legal age adults should. Like in Oregon. But that’s a different topic for now.)

I didn't wait. I started going to Michigan back in July.

WFMJ was just there and commented that the crowd had slimmed down quite a bit. That's where I'm going tomorrow, hopefully it won't be too crazy.

I'm sure things will change - probably quickly. But, as of December 29, the Ohio Medical Marijuana Control Program only received 4,440 recommendations for medical marijuana.

https://www.mydaytondailynews.com/news/m...2we05jiFf79NDI/

Most of the estimates I've seen are for about 150,000 - 200,000 over the next two years.

That lady looks like the true definition of a "pot head".

Stereotypes are SO accurate!

And, like I said, I'm sure it will go up, quickly.

Did they provide samples and refreshments while waiting?

I've read people getting those kind of prices out in California too.

I think eventually it will get to the point that so many states have passed their own recreational laws, that federally it will become legal as well. Was happy to see Michigan pass their laws, becoming the first midwest/great lakes state to become fully legal. Pretty cool. I'm only about an hour and a half drive to the border. For as much as we all rip Michigan for their hilariously bad college football, there are great cideries, breweries casinos, etc up in those parts, and to be able to get legal mj would be pretty awesome. Could be an easy getaway weekend type place until Illinois passes their own recreational law (which I believe with this new governor, is probably going to happen next time around). I think it only makes sense that a huge city like Chicago get to cash in on this business.

What are Ohio’s 21 qualifying illness’s?

Just like the two sweet old couples I saw yesterday. Standing in line holding hands. They were both in their late 70's or 80's

AIDS, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, chronic traumatic encephalopathy, Crohn’s disease, epilepsy or another seizure disorder, fibromyalgia, glaucoma, hepatitis C, inflammatory bowel disease, multiple sclerosis, pain that is either chronic and severe or intractable, Parkinson’s disease, positive status for HIV, post-traumatic stress disorder, sickle cell anemia, spinal cord disease or injury, Tourette’s syndrome, traumatic brain injury, and ulcerative colitis.

Those going to Steubenville or Wintersville, stop by weirton and say hi. Get yourself some "Crazy Mexican Restaurant" for lunch. You will thank you me later. Or La Cucina if you want really good, authentic Italian.

Bruh you’re about to have me passed out at the restaurant.

j/c:

Ohio dispensaries sell $75,000 of marijuana on opening day

Ohio medical marijuana dispensaries sold 8.7 pounds of marijuana flower for about $75,000 in total first-day sales, according to the Ohio Medical Marijuana Control Program.

Those sales were made through just four dispensaries that opened for their first days of business on Wednesday, Jan. 16.

The state, which can license up to 60 dispensaries, issued 56 provisional licenses to those retail operations last June. According to state records, just five at present have certificates of operation, which are required for them to conduct sales.

But only four were ready to serve patients and caregivers this week. Two opened in Wintersville, with one each in Sandusky and in Canton. You can see the locations of those currently open here.

Dispensaries are only selling marijuana flower right now, which patients are allowed to vaporize, but not smoke. Supply of those products will be limited to start.

Retailers were selling flower in "daily units," which amount to one-tenth of an ounce (2.8 grams) for about $50. That price likely will come down over time as the market develops and the marijuana supply builds up. Comparatively, in Denver, which has allowed recreational sales since 2013, one-eighth of an ounce or marijuana (3.5 grams) sells for about an average of $20, with "top-shelf" products selling for between $35 to $45 today for a similar amount. Some of that variance is due to differences in local taxes.

Processed products, like oils and edibles, aren't available yet as processing operations aren't online. While up to 40 processors can be licensed, only 27 have received provisional licenses so far with another 13 pending. None of those have received certificates of operation yet — hence one reason for the delay in processed products.

The other critical entities in the marijuana supply chain besides dispensaries and processors are cultivators and testing labs.

Ohio has provisionally licensed 29 cultivators in total; 14 so far have received certificates of operation. The state originally planned to license 12 small and large growers each but has opted to issue additional licenses. Dispensaries had products to sell this week because of fast-moving cultivators like Eastlake's Buckeye Relief LLC. (You can read more about Buckeye Relief in this Crain's feature from November.)

Five testing labs have received provisional licenses, but just two have been cleared for operation.

There are currently 374 physicians certified to recommend medical marijuana in Ohio, according to the state, and more than 3,575 patients have signed on to the patient registry since it launched in December.

https://www.crainscleveland.com/retail/o..._source=twitter

What is this "vaporize but not smoke"? ??? Vape has a heating element, weed burns, smoke is inhaled, say what?

Only difference I see is smoke is enclosed in the "pipe", but some is exhaled, it is still smoked, I don't get it.

Actually SFAIK every vape I have seen is geared for an oil, and not a solid product, at all. Not one I have seen would work even a bit, though I haven't tried it.

I have a vaporizer that ‘vaporizes’ the THC crystals off of flower. I load a chamber/screen with flower I’ve run through a grinder, to break it down some, then put that screen filled with the herb over a heating element. I can control the element’s heat level. Staring at a low temp to barely heat the THC. The first few hits taste amazing. Then I can turn up the heat and hit it a few more times. In doing this I can turn the THC into a fine smoke but leave the carbon material of the flower completely unburnt. There is no ash. The only thing left behind is a slightly browned version of what went in.
I enjoy smoking from mine. I can load a screen and hit from the hose multiple times just like a pipe. Pass the hose to a friend. Etc.
It takes a little labor up front as you have to grind the flower some to expose more of the crystals. Unlike a bowl that you can just shove a chunk of flower into.
They are better for you that’s for sure. No ash. Very low heat.

http://www.extremeheaters.net/Arizer-Ext...ASAAEgLzpPD_BwE

Even when smoking weed, grinding it first makes for a much more even burn than smoking the bud whole.

Completely agree. Also I’m a fan of multiple small bowls rather than one big one. More green hits all around.

It's not smoked because there is no "smoke". Weed is not "burned", conduction heats to between 360 - 420 degrees to release THC and CBDs without actually burning anything.

Thinking of buying the PAX 3, has anyone had any experience?

So I read something that said if you get a medical MJ license, you forfeit your right to purchase a firearm going forward.

Anyone know if true?