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Barclay has to be a victim of numbers IMO... and really he's the only player cut that I really disagree with... Dorsey somewhat... but maybe we kept DA in hopes to trade him? and we want to put Dorsey on the practice squad for now and will move him back to the active roster if/when we get rid of DA? Who knows.
Barclay I really hope that we can get on the practice squad... I want him in a Browns Uni. Also, if Vickers gets healthy maybe we'll get rid of Ali. I like the kid but liked Barclay better.
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U guys gotta listen to this after cuts presser from Savage... http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/?f=brownschat---------------------------------------------------- Wow Phil is pissed.. The media is really getting on his nerve 
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U guys gotta listen to this after cuts presser from Savage...
Wow Phil is pissed.. The media is really getting on his nerve
I really like how he stood up for RAC and how he insists on putting that "Hot Seat" crap to rest. 
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More on the topic: Browns make cuts, give Crennel vote of confidence Associated Press BEREA, Ohio -- Browns general manager Phil Savage on Saturday threw cold water on the notion that coach Romeo Crennel enters the season on the hot seat. "There is no Romeo Crennel watch in this building," Savage said in a wide-ranging news conference. "I've said it 10 times: He's the right man for the job." With the level of talent the Browns had the last two years, no one else could have won more than eight games as Cleveland's head coach, Savage said. Crennel went 6-10 his first year in 2005, then slipped to 4-12 last year. National experts and Las Vegas betting lines list Crennel as one of the NFL coaches most likely to be fired this fall. Savage said that's not going to happen and he said Crennel continues to have the respect of his players. "There is no hot seat," he said. "If we get beat 50-0 in the first six games, that's a different story. But I don't think that's going to happen." Savage announced 22 roster moves as NFL teams were required to get down to the regular-season limit of 53 players by 4 p.m. Saturday. Cornerback Gary Baxter made the roster and gets to continue his attempt to make history and return from a pair of torn patellar tendons suffered Oct. 22 in a game vs. Denver. He returned to practice in a limited capacity on July 30, but didn't participate in contact drills or play in a preseason game. Baxter is within a few weeks of being able to play, Savage said. "With everything he'd been through, the effort and work he had put into it, he deserved a shot to see where he is over the next few weeks," he said. Backup quarterback Ken Dorsey wasn't as fortunate, losing out to Derek Anderson, as the team's third quarterback on the roster. Dorsey was a valuable mentor to rookie Brady Quinn during the preseason. "We felt like we kept the three that give us the best chance to win right now," Savage said. "We have a lot of respect for Ken Dorsey. But from a physical standpoint, no one had said we need to put Ken Dorsey in to win the game." Savage said the starting quarterback choice will be made by Crennel. He also said the team has no firm timeline for when Brady Quinn will see playing time, perhaps as a starter. "Is it two weeks? Is it four weeks? Is it eight weeks? Is it at the end of the year? I cant answer that," he said. The Browns also cut three 2007 draft picks: defensive lineman Melila Purcell, Chase Pittman and receiver Syndric Steptoe. Purcell was chosen in the 6th round, while Pittman and Steptoe were taken in the 7th round. Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press NFL.com
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U guys gotta listen to this after cuts presser from Savage...
Wow Phil is pissed.. The media is really getting on his nerve
I really like how he stood up for RAC and how he insists on putting that "Hot Seat" crap to rest.
Yeah, and for anyone who reads that article about the vote of confidence, this wasn't just a typical "vote of confidence." He basically laid it all out there very adamantly...you have to hear it to understand what I'm talking about.
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Yeah, and for anyone who reads that article about the vote of confidence, this wasn't just a typical "vote of confidence." He basically laid it all out there very adamantly...you have to hear it to understand what I'm talking about.
Agree, this is one very stern lecture he gives the press. It was great.
I think he looked at grossi several times to get his point across to him, as he seemed to manufacture the Tressell and 'hot seat' rumors last season.
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Personally I am sick and tired of reporters interpreting the news instead of simply reporting it. Journalistic integrity has become an oxymoron along the lines of military intelligence. 
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Yeah, and for anyone who reads that article about the vote of confidence, this wasn't just a typical "vote of confidence." He basically laid it all out there very adamantly...you have to hear it to understand what I'm talking about.
Agree, this is one very stern lecture he gives the press. It was great.
I think he looked at grossi several times to get his point across to him, as he seemed to manufacture the Tressell and 'hot seat' rumors last season.
LOL, yeah I was waiting for him to lose his cool. If it were Parcells or Ditka up there he it wouldn't have been pretty at all.
I've learned a lot about Savage's integrity and honesty in these pressers...we'll see what happens once the season starts but from all the stuff I've read, keeping Romeo around when he could have fired him last season, telling Quinn out of respect the night before the draft that we weren't picking him at #3, etc.
I just hope the talent he's acquired is on par with the seemingly genuine and honest front he projects.
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That really was a great presser. The wife and I really got some good laughs with Phil's analysis of the talent level that he and RAC inherited. I agreed with everything he said.
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A point he made that I thought was very telling of what he 'inherited'; That only 9 players remain from when they were hired. (Ten if you count Ryan Tucker).
Those 9:
Phil Dawson
Ryan Pontbriand
Chaun Thompson
Andre Davis
Kellen Winslow
Sean Jones
Leigh Bodden
Steve Heiden
Orpheus Roye
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ALso what the hell is Brady Quinn gonna learn from Frye and Anderson? Dorsey was the vet presence and the guy who had been helping Brady get ready and obviously it was working well.
See,here's something I feel is fairly logical IMO.
During training camp and in pre season,your QB coach has more things to do than Carter has liver pills. He's trying to coach up four QB's.
That's not an enviable position and "individual time" is not readily available to work much with individual players. Especially when you have two guys in some "QB contrvesry" and trying to install a new offensive scheme. Your QB coach only has so many hours in a day.
But once the regular season starts,he has just about the entire game to go over things with the QB's on the sidelines. He has the time to look at the photos with Quinn,point out the blitzing schemes and all the other things he didn't have the time to do before.
Because during the pre season,he was busy evaluating and working with all four on an individual basis.
RAC sent the message out from day one in regards to this. The two QB's he felt could be game ready were competing. Brady was the future and we all knew it. By game two,Dorsey never even saw the field. In game four Charlie started in limited time. (just look most every NFL starter does)
The back up came in second. (DA). The future (Quinn) played third. And the last guy on the depth chart played mop up. The picture was quite clear.
Sometime people just overthink things while overlooking the obvious. I felt they "might" actually carry four QB's and cut DA once they were comfortable with Quinn as the back-up.
But if they decided to only carry three QB's,Dorsey's fate was sealed by simply looking at the way pre season was conducted in respect to when and where these QB's were played. You'll see Quinn looking at photos,holding a clip board,being instructed and talked to. Only it will be a coach doing it,not a fourth string QB.
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Baxter and Phil are buddies and Rac is best buds with Big Ted and Willie McGinnest.
Come on Mour,, you don't know that's true.. you are just using those statements to prove your point...and that don't wash!
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derek anderson please get injured for the love of god
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These are the players that are left...
20 Adams, Mike DB 5-11 196 03/24/1981 4 Delaware
42 Ali, Charles FB 6-2 265 08/23/1984 R Arkansas-Pine Bluff
3 Anderson, Derek QB 6-6 230 06/15/1983 3 Oregon State
23 Baxter, Gary DB 6-2 210 11/24/1978 7 Baylor
28 Bodden, Leigh DB 6-1 193 09/24/1981 5 Duquesne
71 Butler, Kelly OL 6-7 320 07/24/1982 4 Purdue
86 Carter, Tim WR 6-0 185 09/21/1979 6 Auburn
16 Cribbs, Joshua WR 6-1 215 06/09/1983 3 Kent State
54 Davis, Andra LB 6-1 250 12/23/1978 6 Florida
4 Dawson, Phil K 5-11 205 01/23/1975 9 Texas
87 Dinkins, Darnell TE 6-4 258 01/20/1977 6 Pittsburgh
70 Dorsey, Nat OL 6-7 335 09/09/1983 4 Georgia Tech
17 Edwards, Braylon WR 6-3 215 02/21/1983 3 Michigan
66 Fraley, Hank OL 6-2 315 09/21/1977 8 Robert Morris
75 Fraser, Simon DL 6-6 300 03/27/1983 3 Ohio State
62 Friedman, Lennie OL 6-3 295 08/13/1976 9 Duke
9 Frye, Charlie QB 6-4 217 08/28/1981 3 Akron
44 Griffin, Kris LB 6-3 245 05/27/1981 3 Indiana (Pa.)
35 Harrison, Jerome RB 5-9 210 02/26/1983 2 Washington State
82 Heiden, Steve TE 6-5 275 09/21/1976 9 South Dakota State
39 Holly, Daven DB 5-10 185 08/08/1982 3 Cincinnati
58 Jackson, D'Qwell LB 6-0 240 09/26/1983 2 Maryland
26 Jones, Sean DB 6-1 225 03/02/1982 4 Georgia
84 Jurevicius, Joe WR 6-5 232 12/23/1974 10 Penn State
78 Kelley, Ethan DL 6-2 338 02/12/1980 3 Baylor
31 Lewis, Jamal RB 5-11 245 08/26/1979 8 Tennessee
30 McDonald, Brandon DB 5-10 184 08/25/1985 R Memphis
55 McGinest, Willie LB 6-5 270 12/11/1971 14 Southern California
68 McKinney, Seth OL 6-3 315 06/12/1979 6 Texas A&M
90 McMillan, David LB 6-3 250 09/20/1981 3 Kansas
56 Peek, Antwan LB 6-3 255 10/29/1979 5 Cincinnati
33 Perry, Jereme DB 6-0 202 12/15/1981 2 Eastern Michigan
64 Pontbriand, Ryan LS 6-2 255 10/01/1979 5 Rice
21 Pool, Brodney DB 6-2 205 05/24/1984 3 Oklahoma
10 Quinn, Brady QB 6-3 235 10/27/1984 R Notre Dame
99 Roye, Orpheus DL 6-4 330 01/21/1973 12 Florida State
77 Shaffer, Kevin OL 6-5 325 03/02/1980 6 Tulsa
98 Smith, Robaire DL 6-4 320 11/15/1977 8 Michigan St.
91 Smith, Shaun DL 6-2 325 08/19/1981 4 South Carolina
61 Sowells, Isaac OL 6-3 325 05/04/1982 2 Indiana
65 Steinbach, Eric OL 6-6 295 04/04/1980 5 Iowa
73 Thomas, Joe OL 6-6 315 12/04/1984 R Wisconsin
51 Thompson, Chaun LB 6-2 255 05/22/1980 5 West Texas A&M
72 Tucker, Ryan OL 6-6 320 06/12/1975 11 TCU
47 Vickers, Lawrence FB 6-0 252 05/08/1983 2 Colorado
92 Washington, Ted DL 6-5 375 04/13/1968 17 Louisville
94 Williams, Leon LB 6-2 250 07/30/1983 2 Miami (Fla.)
81 Wilson, Travis WR 6-1 215 02/11/1984 2 Oklahoma
95 Wimbley, Kamerion LB 6-3 260 10/13/1983 2 Florida State
80 Winslow, Kellen TE 6-4 250 07/21/1983 4 Miami (Fla.)
24 Wright, Eric DB 5-10 195 07/24/1985 R UNLV
29 Wright, Jason RB 5-10 214 07/12/1982 3 Northwestern
25 Wright, Kenny DB 6-1 205 09/14/1977 9 Northwestern State
15 Zastudil, Dave P 6-3 227 10/26/1978 6 Ohio
How come every time I count the above I see 54 players, which is 1 over the limit?
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Because Tucker is on there and he doesn't count as part of the 53 while he is suspended for the first 4 weeks.
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I wanted Dorsey to stay as well, but since he didn't, we have to look at the reasons why.
1. Quinn is smart. He's learned quicker than we all are aware of, and Phil doesn't believe that the whole mentor thing is neccessary.
2. The Browns want an insurance policy in DA. If Frye fails early on or goes down, they still want to win and hold out on Quinn.
3. They don't know what the hell to do.
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I know it's already been said... but I cannot BELIEVE that Perry is still on this team! Can you think of a worse corner we've had siince we came back? He does nothing right whatsoever!
At least Hamilton could have served as a backup.
Perry is decent on specail teams and is a good tackler in the secondary. I also think he can play some safety, which was my thought when I saw Hamilton didnt make the team. Hamilton didnt do anything this preseason. He was good on specail teams last year in the games he played.
I can think of a worse corner- Ralph Brown.
I also thought Perry did better in the preseason then K. Wright. Statisticly, I could be wrong.
I thought Hamilton would make it over Adams. I didnt notice Adams much in coverage, but did notice he was not too good in run support or even tackling WRs after the catch. I just thought he wasnt a good tackler all together.
If anyone gets picked up by another team, I can see Barclay going to K.C. They have no need for RBs (who knows how long Priests neck will hold up, many thought he would never return), but they have been looking for a return man since letting Dante Hall go and he did return a kickoff against them. He is just like Harrison but smaller. Also did good in NFLE.
Purcell suprised me. Will make the PS for sure. Hopefully he dont get picked up.
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I´m with Mourg on the cuts...very, very conservative...and dare I say: veteran-love all over the place:; I wouldn´t have cut McGinnest simply for the fact we have no better backups right now...and he can mentor, even though an expensive 1
but Baxter...just like Minter he couldn´t play..but he is kept
U can tell that Romeosd a$$ is on the burner....he doesn´t want to "develop" players anyymore..and I really understand that...but just like Mourg, I dont know if this is the best for this franchise long term
This stinks "Romeo hot seat" and "Phils picks vanity"
Sowells, Harrison and Wilson get yet anotehr shot despite being inconsistent....guys like Matua, Barclay, Purcell get the boot
How they can keep Perry over anyone of those guys is beyond me...I guess he was ST-coach Daishers wildcard or something...I really like Perry, great story, good STeamer....but we better pray he wont have to play
I understand Dinkins over Krause...after all the 3rd TE is in more ST plays than offense plays...maybe that was their thinking on Perry too? but then why did they keep Harrison over Barclay?...lets hope Kamikaze stays healthy
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Because Tucker is on there and he doesn't count as part of the 53 while he is suspended for the first 4 weeks.
Of course, time for bed for me, I guess. Thanks urbrowns.
So, when Tucker comes back that means we either have to release another player.
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Yeah, but Phil said in his PC that we get 7 days after Tucker comes back until we have to cut someone.
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I also hope Wilson didnt make the team because of his 3rd round pick status. I didnt make it to training camp to make a judgement but I thought Sanders and Mann was decent in the little oppurtunity they were given in preseason games. Ive read a couple people say Mann looked good in training camp. Ive also read where Crennel said they are being patient with Wilson and his dropsies because he sees potential. What about the potential of the guys not dropping the ball or lacking concentration? Is it potential because of his size or speed?
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I also hope Wilson didnt make the team because of his 3rd round pick status. I didnt make it to training camp to make a judgement but I thought Sanders and Mann was decent in the little oppurtunity they were given in preseason games. Ive read a couple people say Mann looked good in training camp. Ive also read where Crennel said they are being patient with Wilson and his dropsies because he sees potential. What about the potential of the guys not dropping the ball or lacking concentration? Is it potential because of his size or speed?
Well, did anybody REALLY impress at the WR spot besides Braylon? Not really. Might as well keep the draft pick, because there wasn't anyone else who better.
I'm thinking Sanders makes the PS, but he didn't do anything special.
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Dorsey was no surprise. He got very little PT in preseason. Players on the roster need to be able to play...not just mentor.
Sad to see Barclay and Krause go. Krause could sure catch the ball.
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I wonder if Demario Minter can be put on the Practice Squad... if not.. then I guess I have to change my sig a bit.. lol.. and I really wanted Barclay to make the team  ... I was really pushing for him.. whoever gets him has a nice scat back.. I think he is so much better than Harrison.
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Barclay and Krause were major disappointments.
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Really disappointed over Savage's late draft picks which was something B-more excelled at.
Perkins - Cut
Wilson - made team, almost cut
Purcell - Cut
Steptoe - Cut
Pittman - Cut
Minter - Cut
Oshinowo - Cut
Hamilton - Cut
Sowells - made team, almost cut
Speegle - Cut
Hoffman - Cut
Dunn - Cut
still hit on Leon Williams, Frye, McMillian, Vickers, Harrison
To me, that is not good production late in the draft...that's what is separating us from being 6-10 and possibly 9-7
Phil flat out said on Draft Day that nobody in the organization was excited about any of the players available on Day 2.
If we're at a point where all our draft picks always make the team, then we're not building any useful depth. It would be nice to have our backups be better players than guys who are brand-new 6th or 7th round picks.
Look at the teams that are consistently good - New England, Baltimore. It's never a given their 2nd day picks make the roster because they have quality depth. I would like us to get there, too. Those guys aren't necessarily bad picks, it's just that we already have better.
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Yeah, but Phil said in his PC that we get 7 days after Tucker comes back until we have to cut someone.
I thought he said we have 21 days.
Also, while I thought Krause did pretty well, we have to remember that we already have two pretty good receiving TEs in Winslow and Heiden. If Dinkins is the better blocker and we didn't want to keep another catching TE, then Krause is the odd man out.
We also have 3 FBs at the moment. Maybe when they're all healthy, we'll get rid of one and bring Krause or someone like Barclay back (I really thought Barclay was better than Harrison).
Also, a lot of people are upset about our late round picks. However, just because someone is drafted doesn't make them automatically better than everyone else at their position already on the team (even the backups). It just means we had them on our board and they were available. If you get someone after the 3rd round to stick, I really think you've done well.
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Gots go with Mourg on this one .. Not crazy about some of the cuts .. I just hope Barclay and Steptoe make the PS.... If any thing happens to Cribs were in deep !
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A point he made that I thought was very telling of what he 'inherited'; That only 9 players remain from when they were hired. (Ten if you count Ryan Tucker).
Those 9:
Phil Dawson
Ryan Pontbriand
Chaun Thompson
Andre Davis
Kellen Winslow
Sean Jones
Leigh Bodden
Steve Heiden
Orpheus Roye
And all of those players are key or valuable contributors to our team.
I LOVED Phil's comments on Brady Quinn, laid it out flat that he won't start vs. Steelers.
His comments were right on about Romeo..."There is no Romeo Crennel Watch in this building".
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Honestly we cut one of our best special teams players in Barclay. We cut our best run blocker with Tucker out (matua for short yardage and goalines would have been smart) and we cut the best DL performer in preseason and honestly Baba outplayed everyone on that DL in preseason.
No disrespect, but that doesnt make any sense... Barclay played a few preseason games for us and had a few good returns, mainly against 4th team scrubs who just also got cut. Plus he is a smallish kid who is injury prone and isnt going to be a star on ST coverage units. It seems like you are romanticizing about him alot, he did well in europa and ok here in junk time, but he hasn't done anything in a real game for us. it just befuddles me that you say this kid was one of our best special teams players when he never played in a real game for us... that is crazy
As far as cutting our best run blocker, again, another guy who did nothing for us in a real game situation, and he got cut by detroit last year, who had a horrible line. If Matua can't make detroits roster, he is obviously not the best run blocker on their or our team.
you said it with baba, the best preseason performer, who give a hoot? young guys like that are going to go all out in the preseason while vets just get the reps they need to turn it on for the season. Plus what has baba done for us in the reg season? he looked servicable against 3rd and 4th scrub o line man, but who cares.
it sounds like you had a sweet spot for these guys, which i can understand. you watch these kids in college and want them to succeed, but do you think rac or sav would cut these guys if they were as good as you say they are? prolly not.
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Personally I am sick and tired of reporters interpreting the news instead of simply reporting it. Journalistic integrity has become an oxymoron along the lines of military intelligence.
ditto, i cant stand grossi or mary kay... i was laughing for hours when baxter told them off.... I kinda hoped randy would revoke their press passes and only let pluto in. I can't stand grossi, he is a disgrace to journalism and the browns, plus he is just an average joe who barely knows the game
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These cuts seemed about the way they should have been. I bet we will see Purcell, Pittman, and Steptoe on PS. I don't think the other guys are eligible.
I think everyone has some kind of crush on Barclay and I don't get it. Other than the fact that he's an underdog--who managed to return a kick for a TD--I don't see anything else there. Harrison does everything Barclay can do---but better.
Baba just wasn't working out. I think he just flat out didn't fit the scheme. Though they projected him as a two-gap DT----he just couldn't cut it.
I thought Steptoe was going to make it--but Cribbs performance on punt returns against Chicago pretty much sealed his fate.
The rest of the guys are perennial camp fodder with the exception of Minter and Krause.
Krause just couldn't unseat Heiden--our other balanced TE.
And Minter just could NOT stay healthy---there is no sense keeping a guy that never see's the field.
But I have a question about this cutdown process:
What is the difference between "Waived" and "Waived-injured" ?
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Waived vs Waived/Injured:
Answered in a previous post. (What's the matter, didn't want to read all 100+ posts to find out. 
Injured/waived is slightly different than just plain waived. Injured/waived means that if the player does not reach an injury settlement with the team the player must then go through waivers, if no team picks them up they return to the team that cut them for rehab purposes.
They are not active, nor can they practice with the team, but they can use the facilities to rehab.
Gives them an edge to return to the team, the NFL, of course.
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just clickin.....I really hope a few of these players cut make the PS. Purcell, Barclay, Minter are 3 that I would really like to see more of. I feel bad for Dorsey, I really thought he would be safe from cuts. I still don't really have much confidence in Anderson. Another thing, if we're waiting for players to replace Ted and McG to be the same type of players they were in their prime, right out of the box, then we will be waiting a very long time to replace them and we don't have much time. I do agree with Mourg, in the fact that we need to get rid of the old players and get some able bodied youth at said posiitions. Personally, I would have cut Vickers and kept Barclay. Ali looked decent but Vickers has not really impressed me since his arrival in Cleveland. Dinkins and Krause, I would assume, was a difficult decision, probably a coin toss.   Both seem to be able to catch the ball, Dinkins must be the better blocker, though I don't know that for a fact, just a guess.
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I believe that Dinkins was hands-down a better blocker.
And I think that Vickers wasn't utilized in preseason the way he will be during the season. His versatilityis his strength--and it helps bring some flexibility to the offense. He is a FB who can catch and run like a half-back. I wouldn't be surprised to see him lined up all over the place.
Ali is more of a one-dimensional blocker like Terrelle Smith, but it appears that Ali is a lot faster with a better burst than Smith had.
I have been thinking for awhile now that we should cut McGinest. We have Peek now, and he seems to be taking to the position very well. Though I do think McGinest will still be somewhat helpful seeing limited time on the field. At this point in his career I think he should be spelling Peek rather than Peek spelling McGinest.
Washington is such a huge presence in the middle; I think he will play for another 3-5 years. Maybe not here, but I think he can still be effective. Watching him in preseason and he was routinely taking up two offensive lineman. He's not going to really collapse the pocket---but he will eat up space inside which works well in the 3-4 that we run. Hopefully Shaun Smith will learn a thing or two from big ted before he retires or moves on.
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LOL, TD, you do realize that Ted is 39? No way he plays another 3-5 years, in fact, I doubt he plays after this season. 
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And I was very sad to see Barclay's name on the cut list, I really liked this kid and thought he definitely should have made the roster. As another poster above said, he looked just as good as Harrison, if not better. Yeah, to me Dorsey getting cut was a pretty big suprise, I mean it is Anderson. And BTW, for everyone who's keeping up with the latest NFL cuts, I think our old friend Vinny Testaverde is available. Patriots | Testaverde released Sat, 1 Sep 2007 19:14:33 -0700 Patriots.com reports the New England Patriots have released QB Vinny Testaverde. WE GOTTA GET THIS GUY PHIL! Let's make it Frye Testaverde Quinn And while we're at it, lets bring in the just cut Antonio Pittman, Go Bucks! Saints | A. Pittman waived from team Sat, 1 Sep 2007 18:25:55 -0700 Dave Lawrence, of NewOrleansSaints.com, reports the New Orleans Saints have waived RB Antonio Pittman from the team.
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Tennessee Titans S Bryan Scott, OT Seth Wand, S Lamont Thompson, QB Tim Rattay, WRs Joe Filani and Courtney Roby, LBs Spencer Toone and Terna Nande, RB Quinton Ganther, OT Mikel Otto, OLs Justin Geisinger and Isaac Snell, LB Colin Allred, TEs Cooper Wallace and Jamie Petrowski, DEs Jason Hall and Josh Savage, DT Lauvale Sape, and CB Ryan Smith. Reserved/Injured DT Rien Long. Tim Rattay is also available and we were going to bring him in last season. Go here for entire list of teams and cuts. http://titans.scout.com/a.z?s=120&p=2&c=674512
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Well see, with Tim, he may actually be able to come in and play some downs and stuff like that. But with Vinny he would just teach and hold the clip board for everyone.
Don't know, to be honest I've seen Rattay play more than Testaverde, so maybe I would go after him first.
Then I guess the roster would look like this:
Frye
Rattay
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