Good point, but right now, the only people regularly parking at charging stations are people who don’t have EVs looking for a closer parking spot by the stores, or the assholes in their pickup trucks parking in EV spots for no other reason than to troll.
Tesla are in the process of doubling up their supercharing network, which alresdy has a decent amount right now. And if you’re on the east coast, they’re one of the best road trip cars because ports are everywhere, and if you have a model S, X, or performance 3, charging is free.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I know this probably seems a bit glum, but one of the biggest things helping to keep motorcycling safe (in my eyes) was the noise. I imagine accident rates will go up when you can't hear them coming or going.
loud pipes save lives. Its a proven fact, the louder the bike, the more noticeable you are on the road, the better chance a driver will hear you coming when they cant SEE you coming.
Its the first thing you learn in a motorcycle safety course.
Most people who want an EV probably dont need a 600 HP Porsche. Those are for enthusiasts.
There are lots of way less expensive brands. That I know nothing about.
There are, but they are all small, and go 0-60 in about 12.8 seconds. lol
I drove my cousins prius once I thought I felt it was unsafe trying to get on a highway.
I heard the volt, etc has more power, but never drove one.
For me personally, its going to take for me to get what I can HP and Torque wise for the same money I am now, along with getting 300-400 miles a charge, with a recharge of about 5 minutes.
I drive a lot, about 15K miles a year on the LOW end close to 20K on the higher end. Sometimes we take long road trips, im not going to have to drive a couple hundred miles, then have to wait an hour to recharge my car, to drive another 300 miles. JMO.
There are drawbacks to EVs for those that travel, but 90%+ of people aren't taking long road trips or driving more than 200-300 miles in an average day.
Gas and hybrid options will still exist until the issue of long travel is solved.
I imagine if EV is the future, then at some point the freeways will be fitted with wireless charging, that charge WHILE you drive, to give additional mileage.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
here's the build for the jaguar i-pace. some cool configurations, definitely can get up there in price with options.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
The fuel taxes paid on gasoline by regular drivers fund roads & repairs. Electric car owners don't contribute to this in any way.
That's why most jurisdictions are considering a tax by the mile driven as opposed to by the gallon of gas used. Revenues are already down because fuel efficiency has improved so much.
Everybody complains about switching to a miles-driven model for taxing... everybody also complains that roads are in crappy shape... something has to give.
Mine has a normal dash computer, and a computer in the steering wheel for the ..uh.. whatever its called where the speedometer is... bunches of displays with different stats and diagnostics , heads up display, etc. I dont even know half the stuff my car can do.
i guess short of teleportation and flight, its pretty much capable of all kind of crap.
so Land Rover has been doing this for a while now, but Jag finally did the same with the SUV's and offers the sports activity band.
its such a cool feature. put the band on like a watch, and you can go on runs and everything while leaving your keys in the car, and just unlock it by the door handle like you was paying with apple pay.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Yes I have an app on my phone that gps locates my jag, tells me all the current stats about, what is locked/open/whatever and I can make it remotely lock/alarm/beep etc.
Its really cool.
One time I had to leave the Jag at the dealership overnight to put a new tire on, and they gave me a LandRover as a loaner.
Very cool suv. I dont like their exterior much, but they handle exceptionally well for a Suv and have a very strong engine. The interior is similar to Jag, but they are made by the same company so....
when i die, make sure to bury me next to the tree i wrapped around.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
The fuel taxes paid on gasoline by regular drivers fund roads & repairs. Electric car owners don't contribute to this in any way.
True. I would imaging there will be a tax imposed as more hit the road. They wear down roads just like any other vehicle.
How that tax would be imposed would be the question.
EV’s in general are half the weight of most fossil fuel vehicles and taxes will most likely be imposed like any other fueling station by local state and federal sales taxes at the charging stations like the gas stations do today.
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The fuel taxes paid on gasoline by regular drivers fund roads & repairs. Electric car owners don't contribute to this in any way.
True. I would imaging there will be a tax imposed as more hit the road. They wear down roads just like any other vehicle.
How that tax would be imposed would be the question.
EV’s in general are half the weight of most fossil fuel vehicles and taxes will most likely be imposed like any other fueling station by local state and federal sales taxes at the charging stations like the gas stations do today.
Not true, a Prius weighs around 3k, so does a standard honda accord. A Model S Tesla is around 4.5-4.9k, my Audi A8L is around 4.2k. The batteries are very heavy.
The fuel taxes paid on gasoline by regular drivers fund roads & repairs. Electric car owners don't contribute to this in any way.
True. I would imaging there will be a tax imposed as more hit the road. They wear down roads just like any other vehicle.
How that tax would be imposed would be the question.
EV’s in general are half the weight of most fossil fuel vehicles and taxes will most likely be imposed like any other fueling station by local state and federal sales taxes at the charging stations like the gas stations do today.
Not true, a Prius weighs around 3k, so does a standard honda accord. A Model S Tesla is around 4.5-4.9k, my Audi A8L is around 4.2k. The batteries are very heavy.
Battery packs in EVs are up to three times the weight of many ICEs! It's crazy. Batteries are one of those things people take for granted in this day and age, mostly because they never talk back and just do their job, but we're one huge breakthrough away from them changing the world... especially in the automotive world.
so, just to let everyone know the style of chassis that the EVs are using.
its basically called a skateboard platform. what this means is that the batteries sit inbetween the front and rear axle. this is why even the EV suv's have such a low center of gravity. but its also why they are really heavy.
my M6 weights about 4400 LBS. The Tesla model S weights about the same, and thats due to the batteries. even the nissan leaf and chevy bolt's have a decent amount of weight.
its also why its difficult to make a proper sports car out of EV's, due to the platform and weight. sport and weight when it comes to cars isn't ideal, which is why high end car makers focus so much on weight reduction.
now, the upside to batteries is that they don't have to be made the same way, and you can find different places to place them around the shell of the car. the issue though is again, finding the right curb weight and design to not sacrifice performance for batter placement.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
and taxes will most likely be imposed like any other fueling station by local state and federal sales taxes at the charging stations like the gas stations do today.
and taxes will most likely be imposed like any other fueling station by local state and federal sales taxes at the charging stations like the gas stations do today.
How will they tax you for charging it at home?
The only sensible thing is for you to pay a road tax on all electricity consumed in the home if you have an EV registered at that address.
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and taxes will most likely be imposed like any other fueling station by local state and federal sales taxes at the charging stations like the gas stations do today.
How will they tax you for charging it at home?
The only sensible thing is for you to pay a road tax on all electricity consumed in the home if you have an EV registered at that address.
Or just more toll roads, so everybody that uses the road pays for upkeep.
and taxes will most likely be imposed like any other fueling station by local state and federal sales taxes at the charging stations like the gas stations do today.
How will they tax you for charging it at home?
The only sensible thing is for you to pay a road tax on all electricity consumed in the home if you have an EV registered at that address.
and taxes will most likely be imposed like any other fueling station by local state and federal sales taxes at the charging stations like the gas stations do today.
How will they tax you for charging it at home?
The only sensible thing is for you to pay a road tax on all electricity consumed in the home if you have an EV registered at that address.
Milage based, car registration fees.
Knowing what I know of politicians, they will impose some kind of a mileage tax as EVs become more popular.. but not give back the gas tax. Most states run in the $.25-.40 per gallon range.. they will find some other reason that they "need" to keep that in place.. you watch.
pretty long review, but man this ride is sweeeeeeeeeet! the gadgets in this EV is nuts! German car reviewer showing off the Audi E Tron SUV in dubai
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Before you buy one, do some research on cell IR and thermal runaway, invest in a halon fire suppression system for your garage, check your smoke detectors and emergency evacuation procedures for your home, upgrade your fire insurance, and seriously examine a detached parking location far from your home.
Then consider battery replacement cost, because they will not last the life of the vehicle.
Find out why Lithium Titanate is one of the safest and longest-lasting choices, and also why almost no one is using it. See if you can figure out the single reason for both of these things.
However, if you think the thruster thing is a practical idea that will really become a consumer product, then never mind.
The cars running on gasoline would still need to pay a gas tax. Why would, or should the gas tax go away?
If you stopped using gasoline in a car, for most people you might only use 8 gallons a year to fire up the lawn mower and blower.. sure, you still have boats, chain saws, etc. but you get the point.
The interest will be to keep the revenue stream the same.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
The cars running on gasoline would still need to pay a gas tax. Why would, or should the gas tax go away?
Because it seems unnecessarily difficult to tax ICE drivers and EV drivers differently for the same thing when the purpose of the tax is to pay for roads. You either tax the fuel source or you tax the mileage.
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If you stopped using gasoline in a car, for most people you might only use 8 gallons a year to fire up the lawn mower and blower.. sure, you still have boats, chain saws, etc. but you get the point.
None of which really impacts the roads, so if the tax is for roads and road maintenance, why tax the gas?
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The interest will be to keep the revenue stream the same.
Maybe I don't think like a politician but the interest will be to increase the revenue stream... and I would think they would want to do it in the simplest way possible.
The cars running on gasoline would still need to pay a gas tax. Why would, or should the gas tax go away?
If you stopped using gasoline in a car, for most people you might only use 8 gallons a year to fire up the lawn mower and blower.. sure, you still have boats, chain saws, etc. but you get the point.
The interest will be to keep the revenue stream the same.
I think he meant that if they choose to tax mileage, then they need to stop taxing the gas, because then those using gas would be being double taxed.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
The cars running on gasoline would still need to pay a gas tax. Why would, or should the gas tax go away?
If you stopped using gasoline in a car, for most people you might only use 8 gallons a year to fire up the lawn mower and blower.. sure, you still have boats, chain saws, etc. but you get the point.
The interest will be to keep the revenue stream the same.
I think he meant that if they choose to tax mileage, then they need to stop taxing the gas, because then those using gas would be being double taxed.
Yes, that is what I meant. And I assume they would have to account for the vehicle? Right now larger heavier vehicles (that create more wear on the roads) pay more in taxes because they use more gas... going to a mileage based tax, I assume there would be a different rate for somebody who had 15K miles on a 7500 lb truck vs the person who had the same mileage on a 4000 lb car?
The cars running on gasoline would still need to pay a gas tax. Why would, or should the gas tax go away?
If you stopped using gasoline in a car, for most people you might only use 8 gallons a year to fire up the lawn mower and blower.. sure, you still have boats, chain saws, etc. but you get the point.
The interest will be to keep the revenue stream the same.
I think he meant that if they choose to tax mileage, then they need to stop taxing the gas, because then those using gas would be being double taxed.
Yes, that is what I meant. And I assume they would have to account for the vehicle? Right now larger heavier vehicles (that create more wear on the roads) pay more in taxes because they use more gas... going to a mileage based tax, I assume there would be a different rate for somebody who had 15K miles on a 7500 lb truck vs the person who had the same mileage on a 4000 lb car?
Well, around here if they taxed on how far your trailer hitch sticks out the back of your truck, or how much you stick out of the parking space (This goes for cars that don't pull all the way up as well), we could "free" national healthcare.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
The cars running on gasoline would still need to pay a gas tax. Why would, or should the gas tax go away?
If you stopped using gasoline in a car, for most people you might only use 8 gallons a year to fire up the lawn mower and blower.. sure, you still have boats, chain saws, etc. but you get the point.
The interest will be to keep the revenue stream the same.
I think he meant that if they choose to tax mileage, then they need to stop taxing the gas, because then those using gas would be being double taxed.
I didn't read it that way, but if so , I agree.
Anyway you cut it, the tax income is going to have to be the same because w
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If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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