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It was only a matter of time. I hate to see what despicable acts they will want next. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/va-gov-...r-abortion-bill
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I was called a LIAR for stating that the dems are for minute before the birth abortion ,a fully formed human being, BUT the DEM. GOV. OF Virginia is for killing the human baby after its born, which is murder. Pit and PDE owe me an apology.... Will I get one probably not.
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At some point, you are taking the life of a human being. At what point is open to debate, but I’ve always been in the “if it looks like a baby, it is” camp. I am pro-choice, but recent events are disturbing.
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I am pro choice. 3rd trimester abortion would absolutely be murder. I don't know the full context or who this moron is .... But I am sure labeling the whole "Left" based on the comment of one moron was very fair and balanced. We'll have to start digging up the White Supremacist Trump supporters quotes and then labeling the whole of the "Right" share the same opinions and beliefs ... that'd be equally fair and balanced. 
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Found a video of it. I get what he is saying, if they are messsssed up, barely viable, extremely low quality of life for both the parent and child. That's the way I read into what he was saying.
I get it, it's a horrible decision, it sounds horrible to say, but I get it.
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I am pro choice. 3rd trimester abortion would absolutely be murder. I don't know the full context or who this moron is .... But I am sure labeling the whole "Left" based on the comment of one moron was very fair and balanced. We'll have to start digging up the White Supremacist Trump supporters quotes and then labeling the whole of the "Right" share the same opinions and beliefs ... that'd be equally fair and balanced. This isn't just some moron, this is the Gov of a Virginia. This a leader of this country, who represents the Democratic party. Lets not parse truths here, we are talking about cold blooded murder. A baby is born, they are a person. I keep hearing "viable" and terms like that thrown around. These terms are being used to dehumanize them. They are viable because they are born. They are alive. No matter what their lifespan or prognosis maybe. I am for abortion in instances, I vehemently oppose this and anyone claiming this is to be about a "women's choice". I honestly cannot even fathom the fact that this is even a topic being discussed right now.
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This is why God wanted Trump to be president.
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This is why God wanted Trump to be president. You lost me on that one, pitt. not sure what you mean. This isn't about trump or god. This is about killing a human being. I am not religious, you know that. Killing a human baby is against even us atheist and agnostics beliefs.
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I certainly agree with you. I was just referencing yet another stupid thing Sarah Sanders said today.
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I certainly agree with you. I was just referencing yet another stupid thing Sarah Sanders said today. ah gotcha, I don't particularly listen to the press conferences, just the clips I see here and there, sure I will see that one later lol. Yeah, if that's what she said that's a little weird. Sadly, this is something EVERYONE should be against. Dems, Reps, Libs, Conservatives. My little cousin was left once with 0 chance to live. He is 27 years old, now. I mean, honestly what are people actually trying to argue with this? Its lunacy.
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If God did in fact want it, the proof is in the pudding no? 
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I certainly don't understand it myself. What I do try to keep in mind is that there are extremists on both sides of the political isle. If you just look at the OP here, he took what one person said and turned it into "they", as if it represents what Democrats believe rather than being a statement from a single person. This is the kind of rhetoric both sides use.
And while I usually do not share much in the way of personal information on the internet for what I see as obvious reasons, I do believe this should be shared.
I have twin grandchildren. They were born very premature. One at about three and a half pounds and one barely over three pounds. Both spent a lot of time in ICU. The smaller of the two nearly six months. The hours, the days, the weeks and the months of going through that were unimaginable. Watching these two fight to live was something more painful to me than anything I've experienced in my life. The hours upon hours of prayer and hope needed to make it through this experience will never leave my memory.
They are 20 years old now. The fight and the pain were well worth it. The memories of watching them grow, mature and become the people they are today is something that could have never been replaced. Their life is priceless.
When going through an experience like that, it's unfathomable to me how any one could ever say or defend something like this.
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If God did in fact want it, the proof is in the pudding no? And with Obama as well.
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I certainly don't understand it myself. What I do try to keep in mind is that there are extremists on both sides of the political isle. If you just look at the OP here, he took what one person said and turned it into "they", as if it represents what Democrats believe rather than being a statement from a single person. This is the kind of rhetoric both sides use.
And while I usually do not share much in the way of personal information on the internet for what I see as obvious reasons, I do believe this should be shared.
I have twin grandchildren. They were born very premature. One at about three and a half pounds and one barely over three pounds. Both spent a lot of time in ICU. The smaller of the two nearly six months. The hours, the days, the weeks and the months of going through that were unimaginable. Watching these two fight to live was something more painful to me than anything I've experienced in my life. The hours upon hours of prayer and hope needed to make it through this experience will never leave my memory.
They are 20 years old now. The fight and the pain were well worth it. The memories of watching them grow, mature and become the people they are today is something that could have never been replaced. Their life is priceless.
When going through an experience like that, it's unfathomable to me how any one could ever say or defend something like this. True, but we are not talking about an case of the extreme here, this a Governor of a State. He one of the top leaders in this country, and speaks for a LARGE portion of that party. You have said people owned things for voting for trump, then dems own this for voting this buy, no? As far as your personal story, I left out that my niece was just born at 28 weeks last april. She spent about a month I believe in NICU. I spent many days and nights there with my brother and his wife, I know the pain, worry, and aftermath of joy you felt. And I agree, plenty worth it. I am glad your grandbabies were given the chance to live, and I hurt knowing that someone elses may not.
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The only people that voted for this guy were people in Virginia. And if the people of Virginia knew his views on this topic and or had evidence to support him believing this way prior to the election, they certainly own it.
However I believe your premise is flawed when you say he, "speaks for a LARGE portion of that party".
John Kasich was the governor of Ohio and disagreed with much of what Trump's platform was. He received a very small percentage of votes in the Republican primaries. I don't believe it would be honest to say that John Kasich's views represent "a large portion of the Republican party".
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The only people that voted for this guy were people in Virginia. And if the people of Virginia knew his views on this topic and or had evidence to support him believing this way prior to the election, they certainly own it.
However I believe your premise is flawed when you say he, "speaks for a LARGE portion of that party".
John Kasich was the governor of Ohio and disagreed with much of what Trump's platform was. He received a very small percentage of votes in the Republican primaries. I don't believe it would be honest to say that John Kasich's views represent "a large portion of the Republican party".
I would. there are a lot of views out there lol because he disagrees with 45 on a lot of them, doesn't mean they don't agree on a lot of them either. and lets be honest, trump is far from a fiscal conservative, or a evangelical republican lol a lot people that voted for trump disagree with a most of his views, but he was voted to be the leader of this country and the defacto of the party. I would equate a governor to be one of the leaders of the dem party, especially when the dem party threw this guy MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of dollars at this campaign. This dude got crazy money form the DNC. So I take that as they back him and his views.
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You are entitled to take it any way you wish. You yourself said that you can agree with a candidate on some views and not others. Just because someone supports a candidate doesn't mean they support all of their views
I would think that someone such as yourself whose views differ from party to party depending on the subject matter would understand that.
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You are entitled to take it any way you wish. You yourself said that you can agree with a candidate on some views and not others. Just because someone supports a candidate doesn't mean they support all of their views
I would think that someone such as yourself whose views differ from party to party depending on the subject matter would understand that. That's a good point. I give you that. H owever I would say that that killing a baby is not a political belief or viewpoint. I don't see this as a difference in political beliefs. This is killing a born baby, man. Its a political party backing a guy that has called to murder babies. this isn't about abortion, or a womens right of choice. The baby is born. Next will be if the baby has a missing hand or finger, its not perfect - so lets terminate it. Cant have those pictures of the kid with the stump go up on facebook now can we? You have said plenty times on here, that there is no logical reason, no way to explain voting for trump because of the things he has done or says, right? How can the right be moral when they voted this guy, your words right? that the right lost all ground in moral code because of trump, and that the right owns trump and has to live with that. The same then goes for this guy.
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This isn't just some moron, this is the Gov of a Virginia. This a leader of this country, who represents the Democratic party.
The pro-abortion governor gave Sarah Weddington, the attorney in the Roe v. Wade case, a special seat next to him Tuesday evening, as abortion activists around them cheered.
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I don't see this as a difference in political beliefs. This is killing a born baby, man. Its a political party backing a guy that has called to murder babies. Who has come out to back him on this statement?
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This isn't just some moron, this is the Gov of a Virginia. This a leader of this country, who represents the Democratic party.
The pro-abortion governor gave Sarah Weddington, the attorney in the Roe v. Wade case, a special seat next to him Tuesday evening, as abortion activists around them cheered. This guy is going even farther than the ny bill. this guy in VA is saying AFTER the baby is born, they will decide to terminate.
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You have said plenty times on here, that there is no logical reason, no way to explain voting for trump because of the things he has done or says, right? How can the right be moral when they voted this guy, your words right? that the right lost all ground in moral code because of trump, and that the right owns trump and has to live with that.
The same then goes for this guy. Once again you're skirting the issue and ignoring what I've already posted. I blame those who voted for Trump for everything that was known about him BEFORE the election. I also said that I agree with you about this guy if they knew his views BEFORE the election.
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I don't see this as a difference in political beliefs. This is killing a born baby, man. Its a political party backing a guy that has called to murder babies. Who has come out to back him on this statement? The more apt question, would be who has not withdrew their support of him? Where are those on the left against this guy?
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j\c NBC, CBS,ABC, CNN, MSNBC never said a word about this....all liberal party leaders has not denounced this horrible murderous statement ,but I didn't watch the news today so the may have denounced it today just to be fair.
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Dem co-sponsor of late-term abortion bill apologizes, says she did not read the textA Democratic co-sponsor of a controversial Virginia bill that would repeal restrictions on third-trimester abortions is apologizing to her constituents for supporting the legislation, saying she didn’t read the bill or know how far it went. The backpedal comes as Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam is defending himself amid fierce criticism that he suggested a child could be killed after birth in remarks a day earlier about the same legislation. And Virginia Democratic Del. Kathy Tran, the primary sponsor, released a video Thursday standing by the bill. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem-co-...t-read-the-bill
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You gotta pass it to find out what’s in it...
If the Left gets its single payer healthcare system you can bet Liberals will be fine with euthanasia and infanticide to help trim costs. It may not come in the form of a bullet, just in the denial of care. It’s an ends justifies the means ideology where by any cost in any form is acceptable so long as it’s someone else paying. Money, Rights, lives, the perpetuation of welfare programs designed to keep people on them...
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You gotta pass it to find out what’s in it...
If the Left gets its single payer healthcare system you can bet Liberals will be fine with euthanasia and infanticide to help trim costs. .
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You gotta pass it to find out what’s in it...
If the Left gets its single payer healthcare system you can bet Liberals will be fine with euthanasia and infanticide to help trim costs. It may not come in the form of a bullet, just in the denial of care. It’s an ends justifies the means ideology where by any cost in any form is acceptable so long as it’s someone else paying. Money, Rights, lives, the perpetuation of welfare programs designed to keep people on them... No, the insufficient central planning, doctor\medical device shortages, long wait times, and high taxes should straighten everything out.
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I'm beginning to see the abortion issue the same as GOPers see immigration. If you want those babies born so bad, you pay for to be born, take it home and raise it on your dime. How many unwanted babies are you taking home and raising GOPers?
I mean you like to throw in our faces that abortion disproportionately affects non-whites and non-Christians... how many POC babies/Muslims/Atheists are white Christians going to take home and raise?
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You gotta pass it to find out what’s in it...
If the Left gets its single payer healthcare system you can bet Liberals will be fine with euthanasia and infanticide to help trim costs. It may not come in the form of a bullet, just in the denial of care. It’s an ends justifies the means ideology where by any cost in any form is acceptable so long as it’s someone else paying. Money, Rights, lives, the perpetuation of welfare programs designed to keep people on them... Assisted suicide should be legal. If you own guns to fight for your rights to live the way you want, you should also fight to die the way you want. I would rather push a button under professional medical oversight of a painless death than spend my final days in gut wrenching pain while pumped full of narcotics and laying helplessly crapping in my pants. Screw that, give me a choice. And even though I'm not a fan of abortion, I will always support the woman's choice. I might even be convinced to not just consider, but also support strong/equal decision right for the male; however the father would have to be heavily invested in the relationship IMHO. Not just the result of a one nighter, or a relationship the male has moved on from.
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My wife and I are trying like hell to adopt....harder process than we ever imagined.... my wife and I are white Christians... we just presented our are case for a biracial baby... so far it's ur third case we've presented to... praying this time we're chosen
Totally agree that more people need to adopt... my parents adopted two kids... my sister has adopted two... we're hoping to adopt our first...
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My wife and I are trying like hell to adopt....harder process than we ever imagined.... my wife and I are white Christians... we just presented our are case for a biracial baby... so far it's ur third case we've presented to... praying this time we're chosen
Totally agree that more people need to adopt... my parents adopted two kids... my sister has adopted two... we're hoping to adopt our first... That's awesome for you guys! Hope you can adopt and be happy! Everyone who dislikes abortion or thinks it's wrong should be adopting. Think of the millions of lives that could be touched.
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Thanks - totally agree.... I understand abortion in certain situation s but have always been orochocie and knew at some point I wanted to put my money where my mouth was and adopt... hoping we can find our baby soon and pray for the birth moms who make the difficult choice to put their baby up for adoption
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Thanks - totally agree.... I understand abortion in certain situation s but have always been orochocie and knew at some point I wanted to put my money where my mouth was and adopt... hoping we can find our baby soon and pray for the birth moms who make the difficult choice to put their baby up for adoption ^^^This. Right here.^^^ This is impressive and touching at the same time. I wish you every luck. You are the kind of folks who make things better by doing. Bless you. 
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Everyone who dislikes abortion or thinks it's wrong should be adopting. Using that logic anybody who likes abortion or thinks its right should be aborted 
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I'm beginning to see the abortion issue the same as GOPers see immigration. If you want those babies born so bad, you pay for to be born, take it home and raise it on your dime. How many unwanted babies are you taking home and raising GOPers?
Is that really the premise you want to roll with? I don't see you or anyone else willing to house illegal immigrants yourself.
I mean you like to throw in our faces that abortion disproportionately affects non-whites and non-Christians... how many POC babies/Muslims/Atheists are white Christians going to take home and raise?
I don't have the stats, but I'd be willing to bet that white-Christians have adopted more children from the groups you mentioned combined than those groups have done in return.
BTW, I agree with you about assisted suicide provided that person is deemed of sound mind in with a terminal prognosis when they make that decision.
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Good luck to you and your wife, jay.
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You gotta pass it to find out what’s in it...
If the Left gets its single payer healthcare system you can bet Liberals will be fine with euthanasia and infanticide to help trim costs. . What would you call the case of Charlie Gard in the U.K. if not infanticide? Yes, the kid had a terminal prognosis, but the parents gathered the funds and had a doctor lined up willing to give the kid a chance to live. The Gov't essentially terminated their parental rights and refused to let them take him out of the country. And if some reports were correct, even refused to allow them to see him during the Court challenge. What's even worse about that situation is it wasn't even about saving money. It was about challenging the infallibility of the System. What's to say that kind of thing can't or wouldn't happen here? I'm not trying to be dismissive of your point when I say this, but how other countries run their national healthcare is largely irrelevant to how a national system would be run here for at least 2 reasons: 1) Any system we would run would have to cover around 360 million citizens and another 20-30 illegals. That would be a system between 3 and 10x any of theirs 2) A big part of our health issues in this country are self induced such as obesity. National systems may work in smaller population countries, but when you combine the above 2 factors, it's not known if a national healthcare program can effectively scale to the need/demand. I know I'm getting off topic... BTW, I appreciate your use of the purple! I don't think it's used enough.
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And even though I'm not a fan of abortion, I will always support the woman's choice Explain to me how its a womens choice of her body when the baby is not not in her body, OCD. This is not abortion.
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And even though I'm not a fan of abortion, I will always support the woman's choice Explain to me how its a womens choice of her body when the baby is not not in her body, OCD. This is not abortion. Don't quite understand what you are asking Willit. Until birth the baby is in her body, part of her, and will affect her life the most if born.
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