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Until they win the division, I'd say the Browns are pretty far. Let's not get ahead of ourselves now. We have talent, just still a long way off until we've solidified a scheme and long term solution with the coaching staff. Totally agree... let's get a winning record... let's win the division... then we can talk Super Bowl chances....
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Hmm..
Bungles are on their way down.. new coach, new coords, new system.. it's going to take them awhile
Rats have a new QB thats running out of the pocket too much.. he's gonna get whacked sooner or later
puttsburp is getting older and they have some internal problems
Browns are looking better than they have in years, new HC is liked by the team and has shown some good results..same with the QB..
I don't think it's that much of a stretch that we win the AFC North this year
Win the division and there ain't that many more games till the SB..
The Browns offense should only get better with Freddie in control.
The Browns defense is the key to where the franchise ends up next season.
Wilks needs to take the defense to the next level and I expect him to have the full support of Dorsey..via the draft and free agency.
Wilks and his coaching staff will have produce if the Browns are going to take advantage of this window of opportunity within the division, the AFC North.
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Let's look at the AFC going forward:
AFC East - Pats will remain on top until Brady's gone ... I'm not threatened by the other 3
AFC West - Chiefs and Chargers appear to be formidable ... the other two not so much
AFC South - Indy and Houston appear to be formidable ... the other two not so much
AFC North - Pittsburgh is still the best team until Ben retires, but we have closed the gap big time
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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There are three answers to when we could win the Super Bowl: Next year, never, or somewhere in-between. Even with a great team and fantastic coaches, there are no guarantees. It happens when it happens, or it doesn't. Even when you're supposed to go, it might not happen. Just ask the Saints. When do they get their next chance? There are way to many variables to even postulate a guess. We'll just have to watch and see.
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Pretty much what I said.
Way to many factors involved.
Once you are good enough to crack the top eight teams anything can happen or not.
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Pretty much what I said.
Way to many factors involved.
Once you are good enough to crack the top eight teams anything can happen or not.
Once you are good enough to crack the top eight teams anything can happen or not. Hell, we could have potentially won it this year. Two bad calls from making the playoffs. Or, if you'd rather, two missed kicks from making the playoffs. Once you're in, anything can happen. Yeah. hope is good, and having a better team is great, but nothing guarantees a Super Bowl appearance, let alone a win.
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So, you are saying Super Bowl LIV, which is the next one as it will be played Feb. 2, 2020.
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nothing guarantees a Super Bowl appearance Which is why it's so vitally important to build a team that can regularly make it to the Tournament. Repeated trips to the playoffs increase the odds that a team will make it all the way. We always hear about a team "getting hot at the right time," and here's why it works as often as not: Any team looking to advance in the post-season is probably already familiar with a win streak or two. Can't make it past reg season without them. The think of this: a wild card contender needs only to put together a 2-win streak to compete for the Conference/3-win streak to compete for the Lombardi. Patriots and Steelers have the most SB visits in recent times, and that's because each has been built to dominate their respective Divisions. Win at home/win your division, and you get to dance. More dances = more opportunity to be the "Belle of the Ball."
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each has been built to dominate their respective Divisions. Yet even that's no guarantee as evidenced by 10 years of failed tries by those same Steelers.
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So, you are saying Super Bowl LIV, which is the next one as it will be played Feb. 2, 2020. Yes.
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Well, we might very well not be ready, with a young QB still learning the NFL, an entirely new coaching staff, and still missing some impact players. We can close the talent gap pretty quickly, but how long it will take the QB & coaches to reach elite performance level, who knows?
However, this thing about comparing who we beat vs. who we lost to is a dumb argument. The Chiefs were 3-4 vs winning teams in the regular season...does anyone think they have a ways to go? With the way the Saints & Steelers1 games went, we could've easily been 3-5. It's just a nonsense way to just the progress of a team, because there are so many variables that play into individual game outcomes. I don't think this argument is dumb, just overblown. Many teams with winning records are beating the same "bad" teams we beat. Think of how many years the Steelers made the playoffs with 11 wins. Every one of those years they got 2 wins from bad Browns teams, almost free wins. Without those cheap wins, they don't make the playoffs. So IMO, all wins count the same. Beating teams with winning records looks good, but it still is just 1 win. I think the wins against Atlanta and Denver were proof that we can beat teams vying for the playoffs. If we had a kicker, we would have beat NO. So yeah, beating the top teams means you are a better team, but you also have to look at who those teams beat to get their record. All wins are equal IMO, and discounting the Browns record because of who they beat is a little unfair IMO. Winning teams pad their records every year beating inferior teams, but nobody uses that to judge them.
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Overblown - agreed. You play who is on your schedule. Look who the Patriots (SB Champs again) lost to:
Lions
Titans
Dolphins
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Not a playoff team in the bunch.
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At this point I'll settle for 10-6. It's going to be a few years and some lucky breaks before they manage to get into that position. There are several really good teams that didn't make the big game this year and they all could have easily beaten the Browns.
A lot of it depends on Mayfield. And the defense.
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The next Super Bowl or the 2020 season and 2021 Super Bowl? Both. 
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We made a tremendous leap as a team from that dismal 1-31 record which I guess like an addict had to hit rock bottom.
But we got two young leaders that I believe will progress cause that is what the norm is so we can expect the norm.
Garrett on Defense and Baker on offense. These are two code breakers. Quarterback by far the most important code breaker has been achieved. Edge Rusher Garrett is a beast.
Also on the Codebreaker list Cover corner. Ward was and is just that. We can only hope his concussions come to an end as he starts the season with a clean slate. It will be approx. 9 months from his last concussion to his next game. I would not mind at all seeing him with that Funny looking helmet to help prevent concussions.
In any case possibly he will not be called upon as THE responsibility of the Edge in regards to run defense by Wilks.
Ward last year was called upon to have edge responsibility on a lot of runs. His size put him in a dangerous position as he stuck his torso in the fray many times getting his Neck-head taking a lot of the blows. We could eliminate that if our DC has a different look with the use of the CBs in being a big factor in stopping the run game.
We as was mentioned by Diam are coming into another year of additions. FA and Draft.
On offense I think the only thing we need to get is possibly a beast of a Right Tackle, my hopes is to get one at #17.
Anything else, WR, RB, QB, TE, Interior OL are not necessary but UPGRADES if there is one sure why not and upgrade. I think we can exclude on QB in a possible upgrade. But we are looking good at WR.
Landry, Perriman (hoping we sign him of course), Higgins and Calloway. All very talented: We can also add two who have the listing of another position but are really WR in our mix.
Njoku and Duke. Can we add a WR? Sure but totally not necessary. This is enough talent to get to Championship level.
RB, Chubb, Duke and Hilliard look to be a good mix. Can we add a RB? Sure but totally not necessary.
LT is of course an issue - In the draft there are no rookies that we will come close to getting that will step right in and be good at the position. Can we get a guy that will evolve into a starter...I say not of the Pro Bowl Lever. Not in this draft.
Robinson did well for us last season but is a FA. I still say the kid Harrison with a good off season can progress into a better option for us at LT than Robinson. I don't see a FA nor draft addition that would be better.
RT - Hubbard was "serviceable" we all know what that means as we have had MANY A SERVICEABLE players on our rosters over the years. So an Upgrade is very possible and Probable. I'd love to add a beast from the DRAFT. One who is good in pass pro just not considered top 10 pick for the LT position but just might be the best RT rookie out there. If one is there at 17 we should jump on him.
TE...see WR and RB. Interior OL we got about as good a crew of 3 that one can have in the NFL and we have a backup with starting possibilities in our #32 pick of last season.
Defense I think as far as PERSONNEL goes is the place that we can make the biggest strides and improvements. Randall who was great sort of whimpered down at the end of the season. Don't know if that was due to injuries and he was playing hurt???
THE FA LIST OF SAFETIES is probably the strongest group out there. I think Peppers unlike Randall, simply improved with each game, I am pretty sure talent wise he arrived last year and can still progress to be even better. But I want us to have 4 STRONG Safeties, all better than Kindred. So I think we got 2 in Randall and Peppers, I would like for us to obtain two more who actually are better than Randall. It's there for us to grab!
LB, I would like for us to upgrade there but as we know we might be looking to utilize 2 LB formations more and more depending who we are up against...again suggesting that in a new era we load up on SAFETIES who I think can be a difference makers not to replace CBs but to replace LBS and be efficient against the run but be able to cover the RB that everyone are now using as WRs. Also take away the seam routes by TEs!
But we can upgrade on LB if we wish. I am not really satisfied with Collins and don't think he warrants the contract we have given him. Which brings me to the guy I think we totally overlook on this team. Avery! The strides he made progressing throughout the season was amazing. I think this is the kid who will arrive and be that wow what a player as he gets into that important 2nd season! Last year it was Peppers. This year I think we will see 2, Harrison at LT and Avery at OLB. most likely SAM.
CB, Ward and Mitchell healthy and for Ward an offseason to build a little muscle.
I have mentioned in another thread. I would love for us to add as a 2nd tier investment - Pierre Desir. I saw a lot of him coming into his own - we knew he had to advance from that "RAW" status. I think he showed signs of becoming a valid force at CB. He is 6'2" and we don't NEED him to START but we can add him into the mix and if we need another starting CB due to injury instead of having to use Gaines or another we upgrade with Desir!
Stud in the draft, go get him if they land to our slot. You can never have too many Good CBs. That is where offenses try to get you. Have your 4th CB against their 4th WR usually the O wins that battle. Lets be the team that out shines all in depth!
jmho We are close I think we are going to make a good run for the playoffs, I'm not sure if we are ready for a Championship, but we can get there for sure.
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eo...I believe the weaknesses and needs on the roster will be addressed by Dorsey and his staff.
One major concern I have...the many changes made to the coaching staff. As we all know, with coaching changes comes a new playbook that is likely to have new terminology that comes with new defensive and offensive sets.
Simply said, the ability of the coaching staff to teach the "new stuff", offensively and defensively as well as special teams, might affect the teams performance on the field.
It will take time for the coaching staff and players to gel and we as Browns fans might want to consider that fact. It will have some impact on the team's performance.
The ability of the coaches "to teach" and the ability of our players "to learn" will be on display, once again. As Browns fans, we have been through these changes many times and should realize how coaching changes do affect the play on the field for some time.
HOPEFULLY, this will be a long time before the Browns go through this kind of adjustment. Establishing continuity must be established if the Browns are going to contend for the playoffs.
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I am in enjoy the ride mode.
Dorsey has his part covered and I believe Freddy will handle his end just fine.
This team may NOT be ready for the SB leap but they sure as hell are ready to compete with any and all.
The fact that they will be a factor in any and all PO talk and likely win the AFCN next year will satisfy my hunger for now. SB will come I feel comfortable with that fact.
So while we certainly can debate the pieces and the timing that FACT IMO that its realistically and likely on the near horizon is all I need for now.
There is NOTHING to really fix just keep getting better from here. How about that? enjoy the ride I say.
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I am in enjoy the ride mode.
Dorsey has his part covered and I believe Freddy will handle his end just fine.
...but, the work is being done.
In another thread there was discussion concerning how long coordinators would stay in Cleveland before getting another job offer and moving on.
...continuity has been an issue for the Browns and the best way to insure a degree of continuity is to promote from within.
I decided to take a look at how the defensive coaching staff was set up and I was able to identify at least two coaches who appeared to have a background to move up the ladder to a coordinators position if needed.
IMO, the Browns have already taken the first steps to set up a coaching staff with continuity in mind.
We can't predict the future but it sure looks to me like this franchise is headed in the right direction...and no need for me to attempt to micro analyse all the potential needs.
Yep, time to set back and enjoy the ride... 
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I don't think the Browns "can" make the playoffs in 2019.
I think the Browns will be worse, probably, in 2020, than in 2019.
Thus, in 3 years the Browns will be in rebuild mode and may be bringing in new coaches again,
Which means the 2021 season will see them finish in 4th or 3rd of the AFC North and miss the playoffs,
Which puts 2022 at about the level of this year, 2018-19, which finished at 7-8-1 with no playoffs,
Which would put them back at square one, and probably a lot of veterans leaving or have left for other teams, so a re-build year in 2023.
in 2024, they might have promise, (wonder who the Qb will be by then,) or the coach, or anyone, but they'll probably lack the experience to make the playoffs with the new group.
2025 would then be the year to pull things all together but fall short because of tougher competition or some such.
That leaves 2026 as the year to bring in new faces, and take a wait and see approach,
How close "ARE" the Browns to a Super Bowl? Hmm.
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I don't think the Browns "can" make the playoffs in 2019.
I think the Browns will be worse, probably, in 2020, than in 2019.
Thus, in 3 years the Browns will be in rebuild mode and may be bringing in new coaches again,
Which means the 2021 season will see them finish in 4th or 3rd of the AFC North and miss the playoffs,
Which puts 2022 at about the level of this year, 2018-19, which finished at 7-8-1 with no playoffs,
Which would put them back at square one, and probably a lot of veterans leaving or have left for other teams, so a re-build year in 2023.
in 2024, they might have promise, (wonder who the Qb will be by then,) or the coach, or anyone, but they'll probably lack the experience to make the playoffs with the new group.
2025 would then be the year to pull things all together but fall short because of tougher competition or some such.
That leaves 2026 as the year to bring in new faces, and take a wait and see approach,
How close "ARE" the Browns to a Super Bowl? Hmm.
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I don't think the Browns "can" make the playoffs in 2019.
Now, I will agree that the odds might be against them, but I prefer to take the challenge from a positive POV. I think the Browns will be worse, probably, in 2020, than in 2019.
Thus, in 3 years the Browns will be in rebuild mode and may be bringing in new coaches again,
Which means the 2021 season will see them finish in 4th or 3rd of the AFC North and miss the playoffs,
Have you noticed, there was a change from within this franchise over the last year?
Ownership changed the way they function, distancing themselves from being at the center of the operation. Dorsey is now the focal point of the operation and has been adding quality people who know how to build a winning franchise.
Coaches do move on..that is the nature of business in the NFL, OR they might remain with the Browns. As I mentioned in my other post, to me it looks as though management and ownership addressed the problem of coordinators moving on by adding coaches to the coaching staff who have already experienced as coordinators.
For example, should Wilks move on after next season, the Browns have 2 defensive coaches who have Defensive Coordinator experience who could be promoted to DC.
As for the players, those who choose to leave...they will be replaced via the draft or FA. Correcting the mistakes of the past will not be easy and there may be some fans who do not believe until they see positive results.
Be patient and try being positive...
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I don't know about next season but I do think the window is starting to open up for the Browns.
Getting to the Super Bowl starts with winning you division.
Starting with QB's Big Ben is getting up there in age for a QB. I am not convinced that Lamar Jackson is a big time NFL QB yet. He struggles reading the field but he does well with the 1 read and go with his great speed. But, long term I do not see him as a playoff QB. Then there is the Bengals and Dalton. It is possible the Bengals draft a new QB this draft.
Baker Mayfield should only improve as a QB over the next few years as most QB progressions do from year to year the first 3 to 4 years.
The Browns have the cap space to fill holes and solidify both sides of the ball. Last year 7-8-1 record could have easily been a 9 win season in reflection.
I would say the window is now open while Baker is on his rookie contract. Playoff team 2019, SB Contender 2020, 2021, and 2022.
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TLong...wow, very interesting post. I hope sarcastic and just trolling for some action. I'd hate to think you are from another team trolling. Not calling you out just a very confusing post. If in earnest then I got to wonder. I like you is what hurts the most.
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Since last posted I've done some soul searching and our prospects are actually of the amazing nature.
Dorsey possibly is on the same page and doesn't wish to WAIT any longer. I get what you are saying about our lack of knowledge on the new guys. Well we sort of know what we need on Offense. We will expand on the Spread offense we saw that had success last year. I think we will utilize a bevy of formations. 2,3 TE; 2, 3 RB formations. 3,4,5 WR formations.
On Defense we don't know the exact theories of Wilks but the personnel should not change much from what we got. Of the first time I don't see the massive Roster changes of the past.
Now after looking into this further. Unlike past years I believe our first two picks are #17 and #49 and only one in each of the first two rounds. We are not looking to make the IMPACT that we did last season from the draft. So we will get kids that can progress so what we have to do for the first time in a long time.
Start using that cap space in FA.
My suggestion is 4 big moves rather than the one or two then we usually go big time with the 2nd tier. I think our roster has all the 2nd tier types already. Here is our big move this year.
DT - Sheldon Richardson: this kid is still young at 28 he is an amazing talent that just cannot find a home. Seahawks and Vikings I think were ONE year contracts. Lets offer him a solid 3 year contract. With some upfront money as we got the room now, maybe not in future years. Him along side Larry O can be a duo to be reckoned with!
DE - we already have Garrett and Ogbah very good but I say add one more to the fray. Clowney would be very expensive for a Pass D guy but as we know that is what teams are doing so we got the Offense now that can give us a decent size lead if we get them 3 n out so that the last 2 quarters they will be in PASS mode and we can use the extra pass Rusher alongside a promising 2nd year player in Avery.
So Clowney, Ford or Lawrence of Dallas. Just one so that we would have Garrett, Ogbah, Avery and FA stud!
So now we are talking about having maybe the BEST 6 DL combo and amazing Combo for Pass D.
Then we are looking at adding a LB - I'm looking at a kid that excels our PASS coverage needs and is a good tackler.
He is 30 in July, excellent run D instincts - very good coverage LB. had a knee injury costing him his first 11 games of the season. But showed that he was back...of course the off season to get the knee even better. Here is the kicker - because of the injury and age. We won't have to pay an arm and a leg for him. Remember the impact we sought and actually experience with Mychal Kendricks.
Well I think this kid is that and MORE.
KJ Wright!
So now we are talking about a top NFL DL of 4 a solid LB crew and remember after we vanquish the run early we are talking about 2 LB and KJ can help in both.
Mentioned before with Pass edge rusher Avery will be in a 2 point position. He actually got better with the run D and will progress even more. I think we can eliminate the contract and gain some cap room with trading or cutting Collins. Avery is ready. KJ Wright will eliminate him completely.
Next in line for me as the 4th FA addition.
Will be at safety. I've never seen a FA class like this but for me ONE GUY STANDS OUT.
Landon Collins - he had shoulder surgery to end his 2018 season which statistically took a turn downward. The Giants meanwhile are thinking of franchise tagging him. That is how good the kid is. Safety is not the position to spend that much.
Meanwhile it is said to sign him it would be a 5 year 58 mil (35mil guaranteed) we are one of the few out there that can do this and we can make a lot upfront so we can see the end of the contract. I've seen this kid play more than most of you.
He is the real deal he can cover, he can play the run he can blitz. Just an amazing player that is actually under rated even though he comes from the NY Giants (but they have been bad of late so not many have followed and seen what this kid can do.
So in my opinion HOMERESQUE or not - with these 4 additions to our Defense we have just manufactured a NFL Championship Defense that is accompanied by a Franchise QB with Weapons on offense. Each 3 or 5 and out will produce another possession one that has shown that if we reach the RED Zone - Its 7 points for us.
The formula is clear. Get a sizable lead force teams to pass Rush 4 sometimes 5 have solid 6 or 7 in coverage. You dominate teams! Especially with a pass rush of Garrett, Larry and Ogbah inside, Ford or Clowney at 3 DE and then blitz Avery or just have him overload one of the edges then go in motion and blitz inside??? just so many ways.
CB Ward and Mitchell are excellent. I think we can add some 2nd tier investment at CB starting with none other then our own Pierre Desir.
Offense: OL; Donovan Smith, young talented and from Tampa hmmm do we got anyone who knows first hand of his skills. I think that will determine whether we pursue him or not. Is he RT worthy???
There is also a young (26 in april) and is a giant of a man who started ALL 16 games for the Championship winning Patriots at LT, TRENT BROWN. Is that the 1 sack Patriots given up by the right tackle? Can't believe this kid is available in the FA market but the Pats I don't think can afford him. So if we want him he could be ours! The kid is a beast and can play RT if necessary.
The only other thought would be at TE - they could be Tagged but not sure if tagged TE goes with WR or their own position.
Eiffer and Cook are two of the best out there available in FA. Not a need but 2 good ones.
That is it. I say lets go get a championship Defense with 4 key investments possibly a 5th in a 2nd tier CB like Desir.
On O I would consider one of the two OTs Especially if Harrison is ready and he will excel at LT then I would get one especially Trent Brown to play RT and we know he can play LT.
The more I think about it I might even make Brown or Smith a priority in FA!
What we do know is Dorsey will make the correct move and there are so so many for him to make. I say go do it. We can win a SB but its not even close to the move Butch made with FA that was overpaying a bunch of 2nd tiered talent but it actually got us to the playoffs but so bad that we were 20 mil over the cap the following season and now where near the talent out there this time...so much so that this time it gets us vying for the SB not just playoffs!
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Make the playoffs, and see what happens from there.
Who would have thought that the Eagles would have made a huge Super Bowl Championship run in 2017-2018, especially after having lost their franchise QB?
Once you get in, who knows what can happen.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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Close?
I think the SB is in Miami,so Cleveland will be roughly 1200miles away.
a little known geography fact,Miami is actually west of Cleveland.
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a little known geography fact,Miami is actually west of Cleveland. You may want to check your longitudinal coordinates on this one.
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If that is what you actually believe I would not watch a game if I were you.
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a little known geography fact,Miami is actually west of Cleveland. You may want to check your longitudinal coordinates on this one. I don't believe what he said was meant as you took it.
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Just wondering, how else are you suppose to take it....miami is west of Cleveland....and responses are check coordinates, seems spot on to me....Miami is on EAST side of Florida, its beaches are hit by Atlantic Ocean....how is it WEST of Cleveland in ANY way....I'm a Floridian ......go browns!!!!
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Yes, it would appear I was wrong. My bad.
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I like it when you carry on, Eo! Just pumped up for FA and the Combine and This Draft. Pleased with coaches overall. Spend some solid cap in FA upgrades. Use some draft capital to move up some for targeted players earlier. Just exciting for a change. 
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Close?
I think the SB is in Miami,so Cleveland will be roughly 1200miles away.
a little known geography fact,Miami is actually west of Cleveland.
..it's all good!
FOOTBALL IS NOT BASEBALL
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Until they beat the Steelers, they are just as far away as they have been.
RIP, Jim
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It would appear that I was the only one that knew that.Even the globe and cartographers missed it.
Things you think you learn at trivia night.
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It would appear that I was the only one that knew that.Even the globe and cartographers missed it.
Things you think you learn at trivia night.
Just fun'n around..got to laugh a little..it's all good
FOOTBALL IS NOT BASEBALL
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Just wondering, how else are you suppose to take it....miami is west of Cleveland....and responses are check coordinates, seems spot on to me....Miami is on EAST side of Florida, its beaches are hit by Atlantic Ocean....how is it WEST of Cleveland in ANY way....I'm a Floridian ......go browns!!!! We debate weird things on this forum. lol Does it matter where the Superbowl is? I will go wherever it is, if the Browns get in. It could be on the Moon and I would pay Elon Musk to fly me there.
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Just wondering, how else are you suppose to take it....miami is west of Cleveland....and responses are check coordinates, seems spot on to me....Miami is on EAST side of Florida, its beaches are hit by Atlantic Ocean....how is it WEST of Cleveland in ANY way....I'm a Floridian ......go browns!!!! We debate weird things on this forum. lol Does it matter where the Superbowl is? I will go wherever it is, if the Browns get in. It could be on the Moon and I would pay Elon Musk to fly me there. Over the years I have thought a lot about this and I would prefer to fly to Cleveland and watch the game in a bar with real fans who have lived through the pain and heartache and understand what it means for the Browns to play and possibly win that game. At the Super Bowl it will be a mixture of real fans, but far too many rich corporate folks who could care less or rich bandwagon fans who probably spent 20 years laughing at the Browns and making fun of us as fans.
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I have watched the Superbowl in a bar exactly once. I didn't like it much because it was extremely packed and loud and you couldn't hear the commercials.
I do love a good rowdy football bar but, it was just too packed.
And some creeper hit on me.
And then the police literally stormed in, threw down some guy right in front of our table, cuffed him and dragged him out.
But I did win 50 bucks playing some squares game.
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Yeah, that doesn't sound fun. $50 being the highlight.
I've never watched the SB in a bar. I watched the first Bills v Giants game on a tiny 7 inch B&W TV working as a security guard at college (college job in exchange for tuition $), all the others have been either at my house, my parents or w/friends.
I think the camaraderie in a bar in CLE watching it together would be great and REAL. I'd hook up with some old school friends and have a blast. That said, of course the excitement of being at the SB would be amazing too and I'm sure if I were able to score a ticket I'd definitely go.
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