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spiraling out of control now

Addition by subtraction is ok too.

Steelers without AB and Bell is just as good for the Browns as us having them. Especially since they are head cases.

Obviously Connor’s not Bell .... looking at the production of both ....

I’d rather they would have PAID BELL .... the difference in production and pay make Connor a FRICKIN STEAL ... i’d Much rather they ate up all that salary cap space that would have been needed to sign the stoner ....

Samuels has some skill too ... once he learns how to play RB he may be better than Connor ...

It astounds me that anyone anywhere who even remotely likes the Cleveland Browns wants Antonio Brown to be a part of the team.

He's the worst. Simply the worst.

Dude quit on his team before a must win game. Quit. As in, quit.

He's the worst.

J/C

a little off topic, but you got to love steeler fans and their stupidity.

I just got into a disagreement with one, because he stated word for word "I am aware you are a browns fan, but many people including high ranked analyst have said we (Pittsburgh steelers) would have ran through the AFC in the playoffs because we have the most balanced team. We would smoke KC with their defense"



I mean, where do I start:

1. if you would roll through the AFC in the playoffs, why couldn't you roll through them in the regular season?
2. What Analyst has said that? Dave Demchack? lol
3. Balanced team? You guys just fired your kicker, have a horrid defense that cant stop the run or cover a TE.
4. Your best player on your team is a no show, and your locker room is fighting

I could go on...but shessh....

Honestly, I've heard worse from football fans... especially when they're talking about their own team. Hell, I've heard worse takes on the Browns from this very forum.
Also, we're talking about the Steelers, who's demise has been right around the corner for how long now? It's not hard to understand why their fans are overconfident.

Report: Ben Roethlisberger took shots at Antonio Brown in meetings
Yahoo Sports Kaleel Weatherly,Yahoo Sports 2 hours 43 minutes ago


Ben Roethlisberger and Antonio Brown are reportedly at odds. (AP)
It’s no secret that Antonio Brown and Ben Roethlisberger have a beef. In fact, they’ve reportedly been at odds for quite some time. Apparently, their beef lingered into the 2018 season.

On Saturday, former NFL receiver James Jones, who is now on the NFL Network, said Roethlisberger criticized Brown in meetings and wanted him off the practice field this season.

“I have talked to a couple people in the Pittsburgh Steelers’ organization and they told me this has been lingering on,” Jones said. “I’ve been told in meetings [Roethlisberger] would take shots at AB. Like, ‘I don’t got to throw you the ball,’ and things like that. Wednesday in practice, I heard he ran the wrong route, Big Ben threw the ball on the ground, said, ‘Get him out of here. Get somebody else in there,’ and that’s when AB was at his boiling point and that’s when he went off.”

Jones also implied that Brown doesn’t respect his quarterback enough to discuss their issues face to face.

“I do think it’s hard to sit down and have a conversation with a man you do not respect or trust,” Jones said. Reports claim that Brown sat out in Week 17 because of a dispute between himself and Roethlisberger.

Furthermore, because of this situation between Brown and the Steelers, Peter King removed the 30-year-old receiver from his All-Pro ballot.


“I thought about it, and I said, ‘I can’t in good conscience put a guy who took the equivalent of 6 percent of the season, and flushed it down the toilet when the Steelers were in a playoff implication game.’ And so Mike [Florio], I ended up voting for Michael Thomas and I took Antonio Brown off my All-Pro ballot,” King said on Pro Football Talk Live.

“I’m very, very serious about these votes, and they mean a lot to me. But if a guy takes 6 percent of his season and purposefully flushes it down the toilet … I can’t vote for him for anything. He wouldn’t be among my top 10 or 20 receivers for the season.”

Brown noticed what King did, so he tweeted this:
"System where you have no leverage"

Hopefully, Brown and the Steelers can put this beef to bed. If not, Pittsburgh may have to trade him over the offseason. And according to the NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport, the Steelers will listen to trade offers.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-ben-...-173118469.html

Ben hates him so much, he's willing to take less money to get rid of him lol.


http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25690...hlisberger-deal

Steelers expected to restructure Ben Roethlisberger's deal

Adam Schefter
ESPN Senior Writer

Should Pittsburgh decide to trade Pro Bowl wide receiver Antonio Brown this offseason, a restructured deal with Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger could provide the necessary salary-cap room to carry the $21.25 million in dead money.

The team is expected to restructure and extend the veteran quarterback's deal before the new league year begins March 13, according to league sources.

Roethlisberger's restructured contract would make it more palatable to move on from Brown if that's the direction the Steelers decide to go.

But Roethlisberger is also headed into the last year of his contract, and the two sides typically have extended his deals in early March -- the first extension coming with two years left on his contract, the more recent one coming with one year remaining.

Now with the timing right, and the Steelers needing cap space, Roethlisberger is expected to give Pittsburgh an assist before the new league year begins.

I have a hard time believing James Jones no matter what comes out of his mouth. Dude acts like a jerk when he is on the air.

Not only that but what did Ben do wrong?

Nothing, at least from the article, that I can tell.

Jerry Rice says Antonio Brown wants to play for 49ers

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25760...9ers-really-bad

If Jimmy G actually stays healthy next season, this would be one of the nastiest QB-WR duo in the league.

That would be sweet - we could admire from a distance. Don't want him in my locker room but would rather not watch him in my conference or splattered all over my schedule.

Antonio Brown Reportedly in Domestic Dispute

just sharing the info. There are people out there that think we should get him.

Honestly, I think guy needs real help. Its gone way past just being an idiot. I think he some real mental issues going on

Oh, no doubt. Dude is a complete basket case. Keep 'em in someone else's locker room.

His ego has taken over. Time for someone or something to bring him back to reality. These guys are young kids who are suddenly filthy rich. They are idolized by people, and IMO sometimes it goes to their head. In their mind they actually start believing that they are special and above a lot of things. A good dose of reality is what this guy needs.

Did you read the article? What's the big deal. It was investigated and he wasn't arrested.

Things could change, but I don't see what the big deal is.

Me?

The big deal is the story never stops with this dude. You don't need to read past the headlines. Selfishness, arrogance, abuse and childish tantrums. Wash, rinse, repeat.

I'm just saying that the article said he was investigated but no charges were filed. I'm sorry, but I don't think he is guilty of a crime just because there is a headline.

I don't like the guy, but I think we should be fair and accurate when commenting on a public message board.

I can be fair and accurate ~ he's cuckoo... toys in the attic. I don't believe most of what I read anyway. Like the last incident, it's not always the clear timeline and five w's, we can litigate and argue til the earth stands still. Bottom line, you were leasing a furnished condo on the 14th floor... now all the furnishings are laying in the street. Not real tough to piece it all together.

AB and Big Ben get into an argument, AB goes awol and shows up on Sunday wearing a mink coat on the sidelines? Bonkers? Yeah, pretty much.

I don't need to read this one either, I don't even really care what he did or didn't do. Bottom line "AB in a domestic dispute" surprises nobody. After a while it doesn't even matter if he's guilty or not, the headlines indict him because everyone's tired of reading the whole story.

Nobody's reading this wondering if he's guilty, they're reading it wondering when he'll get stopped by the popo for running naked into the Monongahela with his nipples on fire.

To each their own, I suppose.

Yet, you defend a guy who intentionally tries to put another man out of work.

Have a good one.

Yeah, I agree with you.

I am also sure that the NFL investigates all of these cases, whether charges are filed, or not.

Dude, that's so confusing that I gave up after two or three minutes...

I did what??

Fair and Accurate would be the fact that he already is facing one lawsuit for throwing furniture out a window and almost killing a 22 month old. Fair and accrurate would be that he his in a downward spiral personally, and showing signs of a mental disorder (usually people that suffer from depression or bipolar disorder, can see these signs in others).

The guy needs help. He is a father to several children. To brush this off and not feel that its an incident in a Loooonnnngggg line incidents, is well - enabling.

Joe Namath showed up on the sidelines wearing a mink coat. He even wore panty hose!

Please no Diva's in our locker room ... I don't think they would fit anyhow ... JMHO

The locker room should be listed as a Diva Free Zone.

j/c...




Article detailing the incident...

Police: Antonio Brown allegedly pushed mother of his daughter

So whose version of the truth is this?

I think at this point, with his LONG list of instances and the media show that has been going on for the last two years, that is secondary.

Something happened, that's for sure. I am not saying he needs punished, I am saying he needs mental help. All the signs are there that this guy is having issues that need addressed.

I hope is able to get the care that he seemingly needs.

Maybe he's just a major league douchebag. The very same guy who tried to face-stomp Browns punter, Spencer Lanning, who had fallen down trying to tackle him on a punt return. Maybe you're right and he needs help. Or maybe I'm right and he needs his ass kicked.

Starting with the latter sounds like the ticket.

I don't think it would be a good idea to trade Baker. Sometimes, you have to put up w/guys when they are playing well.

Yeah, we should find a way to put up with him .... somehow.

Glad to see you think Baker is a “me” guy.

That says something. About someone.

It says somebody is going to be bitter for a really long time. lmao