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lol only in pipe dreams. Atlanta United (MLS) is more popular than the Cavs.

On a side note, is Zion even that good? I've seen the dunks, but can he shoot? Can he create his own shot? Can he take it to the rack at will with his size? Is he like Simmons (great around the basket, but worthless from 15+ feet out?

I have little interest in the NBA anymore. I watched nearly every Cavs game for the last decade plus (including the years LBJ was gone). I watched the Cavs early this year and realized there are much better things I can do with my time.

Durant to GS ruined the NBA imo. It was enough to try to compete with them before he signed. Now we have an Arms Race and nothing more. Can you compete with one superstar? No. Two?? Probably not. What does this do to the sport?

It's a league of "haves" and "have-nots"... and 80% of the teams fall into the second category. No way, no how, no chance. That's the outlook of the near entirety of the league every year, before a game is ever played. Players, agents and franchises collude to bring the next superstar to their city. Players quit on their franchise and demand trades, often to specific teams. In a sport where there is no hiding "lack" of talent (only five players on the "playing field"), inferior teams have zero chance, especially in a seven game series.

It's not really a sport anymore. It's more like a Comic Strip with frame after frame of dunks and three point shots. I doubt I'll watch much playoffs, might tune in if a series is being closely fought (don't see many of those anymore). Probably tune in to Game 1 of the finals... to see a clarification of what we already know... Warriors in five.

And what?

I think he will be able to shoot at some point. Yes to all the other questions (besides the Simmons one).

And the fanbase is more fun.

So your argument is that soccer is fun so no one likes the Cavs? I don't understand.

I'm just trying to point out how sad the nba is.

Nobody cares about nba teams unless they have superstars.

To the point MLS is more popular than them. And the MLS is like the red headed stepchild sports league.

So yeah, nba needs to better balance their ish to make it more enjoyable for fans. As a fan, I have nothing to root for, and they wont even show my team on tv.

The Mavs are more popular than Atlanta United and are doing it with more Europeans!

MLS is popular, but NBA's popularity is still growing faster.

Atlanta United can fill a whole football stadium.

I went to an AU game during reg season and there were 71K people there.

Dont know how many are at a Mavs game, but it isnt that many.

Also, I get that AU is an anomaly in MLS.

I just find nba sad in general.

You are in the minority.

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And the Mavs have a 900+ sell out streak. If they played a meaningful in Jerry's world, I'm sure they would sell out.

However, the MLS sucks and all the players are bad. It's the division 4 of the sport. At least with the NBA you can see something athletic happen.

One MLS team is more popular than one crappy NBA team. The leagues are not comparable in their overall popularity.

Also:

http://www.espn.com/nba/attendance

I am done arguing about this. Because its circular.

All I will say is, I attended the NBA Finals last year.
With the GOAT on the Cavs.

I also attended the MLS Cup.

I will say the NBA Finals was like a funeral compared to the MLS Cup.

The MLS Cup was the most fun sporting experience I ever had in my entire life. I have never experienced a crowd like that.

I like the NBA and will always root for the Cavs, but I feel the league is unbalanced.

Hopefully they will get it fixed at some point.

Interesting the Cavs average higher attendance than the Lakers.

I wonder why that was...

j/c:

I'm w/Punch and cfrs on this one. I have switched jobs before. I went to a school district that I thought was better than the one I was at. Hell, I did that a few times. My son just left one company for another because the new company was willing to almost double his salary. Is that wrong? Hell, I was proud of him.

The NBA is trending upwards right now. The ratings are great and they are being talked about constantly even though it is Super Bowl week.

I do worry about some of the small market teams. Not sure what the answer is in that regard. Eliminate those teams and lose jobs or try even harder to make players stay in one locale? Both options are unsatisfactory.

Cavs shipped out Hood for two failed first round picks and some seconds. Not sure after the kyrie thing Altman should be allowed to do any more trades

Not sure what you were expecting the Cavs to get for Rodney Hood.

there was actually some interest in him. He's better than alot of 2's out there. A playoff team could be motivation for him. I think Lebron broke him. Wouldn't be the first player that couldn't play with that pressure.. At minimum i would have said...keep one of those seconds and take JR .lol, keep both seconds and take TT too (i know it wouln't work cap, tongue in cheek)

Well, this could get interesting:



I see GM Lebron is in full swing.

That's not the Lakers best offer. Gotta have Zubac in there and probably Hart too.

Why do I hear Lamar Ball screaming, and Lonzo saying "Hey, this is my team!".

Seen this movie before...GM lebron is a franchise killer. He'll make you give away all your young talent and assets and gut the team for another veteran.. Yes AD is good, but you just traded away your core and picks to build on. Seems pretty familiar. AD is good, but he's not good enough to beat GS/houston yet.. Hell i don't think they get by portland either. Whoever goes there better like LA, because Lebron is on the downswing and their workload and pressure will increase

Who is this espn nba guy talking about consummating trades and pulling him out.

Stop with that langauage. This is not hbo.

Cleveland Cavaliers acquire Brandon Knight and 2019 first-round pick in three-team deal for Alec Burks: Sources | cleveland.com
https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2019/02/cleveland_cavaliers_acquire_br.html#incart_2box

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Cleveland Cavaliers have agreed to a three-team deal that sends Alec Burks to the Sacramento Kings in exchange for Houston Rockets guard Brandon Knight, power forward Marquese Chriss and a 2019 first-round pick, league sources told cleveland.com Wednesday night.

The 2019 first-rounder is lottery protected, according to a source.

In the deal, Burks will go to Sacramento while Houston receives Iman Shumpert from the Kings and both Nik Stauskas and Wade Baldwin -- two players recently added in the Rodney Hood deal -- from Cleveland.

The Rockets had been dangling a first-round pick to get out from under Knight's hefty contract for the last week and the Cavaliers, with approval from chairman Dan Gilbert, were always willing to take on money beyond this year provided it came with an asset.

The Cavs are "thrilled" about their haul for Burks, according to one member of the organization who spoke with cleveland.com about the deal.

Internally, the Cavs were always hoping to net a first-rounder for Burks, whose expiring contract and recent play made him a valuable commodity on the trade market.

Knight, a 2011 first-round pick, has played in just 12 games with the Rockets this season, coming back slowly following knee surgery that cost him the entire 2017-18 season. He is averaging 3.0 points in 9.8 minutes.

Chriss recently asked for a trade, hoping to find a place where he could get more playing time. Buried on Houston's depth chart, Chriss has only received double-digit minutes in three games this season.

During the run-up to the NBA trade deadline, which is Thursday afternoon at 3 p.m., the Cavs have added six second-round picks and two first-rounders in separate trades for Kyle Korver, George Hill, Sam Dekker, Hood and Burks -- five players who didn't fit in Cleveland's long-term plans.

The Cavs originally acquired Burks from the Utah Jazz in exchange for Korver on Nov. 28.

When the dust settles, the Cavs will have received a first-round pick and a pair of seconds for Korver.

[quote][/quote]NBA trade deadline: Rockets, Cavs and Kings agree to 3-team deal including Iman Shumpert, Alec Burks and Brandon Knight

The Rockets, Cavaliers and Kings just pulled off a major three-team trade

by DJ Siddiqi 1h ago • 1 min read

Teams just keep pulling off deals before the NBA trade deadline.

With the trade deadline looming on Thursday afternoon, the Sacramento Kings, Cleveland Cavaliers and Houston Rockets just pulled off a three-team trade featuring several players and a protected first-round draft pick changing hands.



According to Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN, the Rockets have acquired Iman Shumpert, while the Cavs have acquired a lottery protected first-round pick, Brandon Knight and Marquese Chriss. The Kings have acquired shooting guard Alec Burks to round out the deal.

Furthermore, the Cavs will also send recently acquired players -- from the Portland Trail Blazers trade from this past weekend -- Nik Stauskas and Wade Baldwin to the Rockets.

Houston had been looking for a 3-and-D guard since losing Trevor Ariza via free agency over the summer. Shumpert fills that void, having served in that role for the Cavaliers during their championship run back in 2016. The 28-year-old Shumpert had averaged 8.9 points per game on 36.6 percent shooting from beyond the arc in 42 games and 40 starts for the Kings this season.

In the case of Burks, the 6-foot-6 guard had averaged 11.6 points per game on 37.8 percent from beyond the arc since being acquired by the Cavaliers from the Utah Jazz in late November in the Kyle Korver trade. He will provide Sacramento with another scoring option as they seek their first playoff appearance since the 2005-06 season.

In the case of Chriss, he's an expiring contract who will be a free agent this summer but will have an opportunity to show his worth while playing on the clearly rebuilding Cavaliers. Knight has one year left on his deal worth $15.6 million. However, the 27-year-old Knight had been a major disappointment for the Rockets, appearing in just 12 games and averaging just under 10 minutes per game this season.

All three teams accomplished their objective with this multi-team trade -- the Cavs traded Burks while his value was high, the Rockets acquired their 3-and-D player and the Kings added another offensive weapon as they look to continue their playoff push.

This was actually a good trade for the cavs.. Say what you want about being a meddling owner, Dan will never shy away from spending if it helps. Now if we can unload JR/TT we'll be in good shape. I can't see a market for either without us having to part with picks...unless maybe SA and trying to unload gasol. Maybe JR and we get gasol and a pick

j/c;

Now, the Cavs need to eventually trade Kevin Love.

his contract is virtually un-tradeable

If he were healthy and playing well, maybe. However, he's been hurt all year and nobody wants to trade for THAT contract. He's ours for a long while.

Agreed, that's why I said eventually. Next season would likely be a good time to trade him.

meant to post this in here

I know god has left this thread long ago, but we won last night!

That’s not a good thing.

The bottom three teams share the same percentage of balls in the lottery, I think. So, as long as they end as one of the three worst, the chances of getting the #1 overall are equal.

No it's not a good thing. Cavs are going to mess around and screw up tanking.

Correct, but the bottom team cannot drop out of a top 5 pick. The second and third bottom team can drop to the sixth and seventh overall picks respectively.