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This is a fantastic move by Dorsey. We are giving a kid a chance to turn his life around and I'm sure there will be zero tolerance from the Browns, and I mean zero. It is very cheap for us and the kid can flat out ball. He is more talented than Chubb but he is a different type of runner. Best backfield in the league if Hunt can redeem himself.

I don't condone his actions but believe in second chances. Let's see if he appreciates his.

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How the hell are we going to trade for him if he's on a one year deal and he's suspended past the week 10 trade deadline? And why would we trade him if we're in the middle of the playoff run. Don't jump ahead of yourself, Diam.

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He'll be a RFA after the year. We can tender him and trade him if we so choose to do so after the season.

The bottom line is that we have options. We can trade him or keep one of the very best dual-threat RBs in the entire NFL. And other the some negative press, the cost is extremely low.

It was a brilliant move. I'm just glad we beat the Bears to the punch!

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He’s definitely not a role model. Cannot and will not make any excuses for hitting a woman. He is definitely a piece of crap in that instance, but everyone makes mistakes.

And he is a good player, very good. Probably and likely a little over rated in Andy Reids system but 1yr, 1 mil? Seems like a deal to me.


It's not a mistake to attack a woman, it's a character flaw.

We have no idea how many games he will be suspended for. He could be out all next year... Or at least a good bit of it. I don't like this but it's not a surprise. He better get and keep his **** together. Guess I can't bitch about the Squealers having a sexual predator at QB any longer...


It can be both.

If Ray Rice knocked his girlfriend unconscious and dragged her body around got 3 games. Obviously it was mishandled so lets say that offense gets him 8 games in today's NFL. If we get Hunt for 8 games for 1m dollars and he's an RFA, it's a nice gamble.

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My second reaction is... why? (the us already having Chubb and Duke issue)


The value is insane. We get a great player for nearly a minimum salary for two years.

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Hey, Marshawn Lynch was run out of Buffalo for similar stuff, iirc. He ended up turning it around.


Lynch had a hit and run and DUI (separate incidents).

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These are the moves good front offices make..i know it seems unexpected here given our history. But Dorsey is shaping up to be the best GM we've ever had


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Its just all about adding weapons. We added one of the best young dual threats in league probably top 3 dual threats.

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i see we trying to make a superbowl push NOW!

lets go browns!


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I'm not sure how many RB's people think will actually get substantial playing time. I could see Duke as a situational WR, but if they plan to use Hunt it would only mean Duke's touches from the RB formation will lessen.


And I'd hate to see that, but in the end, the player that makes us better is the one I want on the field.


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i see we trying to make a superbowl push NOW!

lets go browns!


This free agency period is definitely going to be interesting and exciting.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Lynch was also accused of raping at least one and prolly more UNDERAGED girls in Buffalo ...

He had to go ... it was a DIFFERENT TIME in our society ... they HATED him in Buffalo ... as good as he was ... he would have NEVER BEEN accepted there ... EVER ...

And they had Fred Jackson i believe at the time .. they had another real good RB ... i think it was Fred ... he was the exact opposite of Lynch ...




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Can you imagine if we are in the playoff hunt and healthy, rested Hunt [intended] comes back for the last 4-6 games?


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another mitigating factor, 3 incidents and was never arrested.. Two of them the other party was the aggressor. In fact the one in the nightclub, the guy who called the police ended up being arrested. Not saying striking a woman is right. But after everything thats out, no charges have been pressed and he wasn't arrested. Everyone saying pregnant woman, that was Hill, who choked and punched his preggo GF in the face


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I do have one question - I have seen it mentioned here, as well as on other social media, that this could spell the end of Duke here. Why would Duke be the odd one out? Why would it not be Hilliard or Mays?


Remember last year the talk about town was how are we going to get Hyde, Johnson and Chubb enough carries..

The answer last year was to trade Hyde, expand the roll of Chubb and Johnson.

Johnson is a good player,, very good in fact, but if Hunt is as good as he was prior, we are going to be very solid and Johnson may be the odd man out.

Geez, Johnson, Hunt and Chubb in the backfield... LOL That might be fun to watch..


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I'll be fine with this as long as he makes an effort to show how he's trying to improve.

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another mitigating factor, 3 incidents and was never arrested.. Two of them the other party was the aggressor. In fact the one in the nightclub, the guy who called the police ended up being arrested. Not saying striking a woman is right. But after everything thats out, no charges have been pressed and he wasn't arrested. Everyone saying pregnant woman, that was Hill, who choked and punched his preggo GF in the face


Yep. The dude clearly has a drinking problem that I hope he can fix. Someone will always give you a reason to get angry at them if you're that type of person. To be honest, I kinda give him a pass since the woman used a racial slur.

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Another thing to consider. The two teams w/the most interest in Hunt were the Bears and Browns. Nagy was the OC in KC and Dorsey was the GM in KC. I'd say those two guys know about Hunt more than the rest of us.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
i see we trying to make a superbowl push NOW!

lets go browns!


Jump on those 30-1 odds while you can!

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Man I would not like to be a defensive coordinator going against our offense.

Freddie must be in hog heaven today just contemplating how he will use him.

He is an exceptional cut back runner. He is also a terrific receiver.

We now have an super versatile backfield Chubb, Duke, and Hunt can all catch the ball and run like hell.

Lots of weapons.

Our OL was playing very well toward the end. If Harrison and Robinson come back as improved players. Damn, we will be hard to stop. Play action, trap plays, and screens should be killer. When you roll blocking in one direction and run to cut back lanes Hunt, Chubb and Duke can kill you.

Even with Landry, Callaway, Higgens, and Perriman we threw the ball well adding Duke, Chubb, and Njoku as pass options.

If we add there it will have to be stud to really have an impact.

Dorsey is in the cat bird seat.

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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Lynch was also accused of raping at least one and prolly more UNDERAGED girls in Buffalo ...

He had to go ... it was a DIFFERENT TIME in our society ... they HATED him in Buffalo ... as good as he was ... he would have NEVER BEEN accepted there ... EVER ...

And they had Fred Jackson i believe at the time .. they had another real good RB ... i think it was Fred ... he was the exact opposite of Lynch ...



That was my recollection as well... although there might not have been any actual charges filed.


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I didn't waste my time ready through everybody's replies. This was a good signing by the Browns *Standing ovation for it* Was it right or wrong morally????? That is up to each one of us to hash out. BUT anybody who is against this signing is just.... ummmm not very bright IMO and IMO opinion only.


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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg


Chiefs realizing they were a little premature and probably didn't do their diligence on the situation.


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We can debate the morality until we're blue in the face. But from a pure fan standpoint, I think about it like this. If Kareem Hunt is a key reason we win the Super Bowl, will Browns fans put an asterisk next to that victory?

I know I wouldn't.


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Chiefs realizing they were a little premature and probably didn't do their diligence on the situation.


Yeah... that's weird. They cut him just to try to get him back? Seems weird.


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Madden 20 just got alot more fun to play as the browns..lol


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This is a low risk signing as he costs next to nothing and you control him next year as a RFA. Like others mentioned, it was not surprising that the Browns were in on this based on the Dorsey connection. I'm interested to see what the NFL rules in terms of suspension, because if Kareem comes back and plays like his first couple of years, Chubb might be pushed out of the starting role over time. He was the better running back last year but Chubb was also just a rookie. Who knows, perhaps Chubb continues his upward trajectory but it will be interesting to watch this unfold.


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he's really good. we got better and tougher to defend for very cheap


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this is what I expect to happen. 10 game suspension, 5 of which will be on 2018. The only reason it is this long is because of the night club punch thrown also.


With no citations issued. I do not expect more than 4 games. He had been investigated and not penalized when the Chiefs cut him.


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Duke must be asking where he fits in all this, but who knows if Kareem sticks.


My thoughts exactly. Hunt's personal stuff aside, he adds real firepower to this team. How does Duke keep his job if Hunt can be on the field?

And will Hunt "play nice" with Chubb as our number 1 back?


There is room for all three. When Hunt can play, I'd expect him and Chubb to get somewhat equal carries.

I don't think we ever really looked at Duke as a back who runs. He is our pass catcher.

Plus, Chubb, Hunt, and Johnson in a wishbone would be pretty awesome.

Good move by Dorsey. Hunt should get a chance. He was going to get signed by someone. I am glad that someone is us.


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Not attempting to contact the victim is a problem.

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Not attempting to contact the victim is a problem.



Why? He isn't hiring her.


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The business aspects of this signing are all favorable for the team. The competitive advantage it creates on the field and the controlling of his rights into 2020 is genius.

I don't think the offense we saw the second half of '18 will be the same offense we see in '19. Meaning the offense is bound to evolve and Todd Monken's involvement could alter how Duke is used in the offense. I think most presumptions about Duke's role is based on the past Brown's offenses. We won't know for some time how this will impact him.

I said in another thread that I thought Hunt's incident was worse than Jeffery Simmons' so if we can sign Hunt, in my mind it is less troubling to draft Simmons.

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We dont need this asshat woman beater.

Boo.


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Not attempting to contact the victim is a problem.



Why? He isn't hiring her.


What would be accomplished by contacting the victim?

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We all saw this coming didn't we?

The fact that he's been hanging around his buddies when all 3 incidents happened and he'll be even closer to his buddies now that he's back home isn't the best scenario, but he's got about $40 million reasons to keep a level head for the next couple of years.

He is also a great pass catcher out of the backfield and the chess pieces the Browns now have out of 2 back sets are going to be pretty awesome.

On 3rd and meds/longs now we can line up KH and DJ in a 2 back set and run plays designed for 5 WR's.

I would expect Duke to get plenty of playing time at WR and Chubb to be the bell cow until KH is able to play. When KH gets to play, teams will focus on him, so move him around a bit and take advantage of that.

We can feed a few mouths for a little while, and we'll only have a few mouths for a little while. Let's just make sure we get plenty of trade value from whoever we move on from by not forgetting to put the ball in their hands this season.

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