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Seems like you have hate and fear of the South.

Yes hate, not fear. I’m not afraid of being wrong, because right and true will prevail.

It’s kind of of what, The United States of America is based upon.

Have you ever lived in the South? Because you seem extremely ignorant about it based on your numerous false assumptions about it.

I have not. I know I make blanket statements about the south, but it’s still a majority I speak of, politically speaking.

How do you know its the majority if you have never lived here?

Are you not aware of the extremely large minority population that live here (blacks and mexicans)?

Just because slavery was abolished doesnt mean all the black people suddenly evaporated or moved away. They stayed here and their descendents and culture live on. Its a huge part of the South and Southern Culture.

We are a giant melting pot of diversity. We are all good neighbors. And everybody gets along happily.

We are nothing like the North which is way more seperatist.

You speak from a position of ignorance, assumption, and fear about something you know nothing about.

Fair enough, we can agree to disagree. No need to clog the thread, I’ll respectfully leave this conversation with this.

Abraham Lincoln said something like this, the yin and yang of the north and south is a good thing. Opposing ideologies can be emencly benfeical, we learn things we normally wouldn’t, I get it. Outside of nuclear war, anthropogenic climate change is the biggest threat to America, and the world. It’s just an ideology you guys don’t believe in. Walls are barriers to progress.

That is the south, there are maps to back that up. Be good in the dirty dirty, OutKast is one my favortite rap groups, I do drop the atl shawty, when I meet one of you guys. Go Dawgs

As long as you understand that Abraham Lincoln was speaking about the civil war and that ended centuries ago.

Maybe you can evolve to current times.

I never understand why some people in this forum hold onto the past with a death grip. America has moved on. Maybe you should also.

I've lived in the south. Rural Alabama and Georgia. Atlants is a big city, liberal leaning part of the south. To pretend it's indicative of southern culture is a big misrepresentation. That would be like me saying Nashville represents the south. It most certainly doesn't. I've lived in the Nashville suburbs for years now and I also have family from the mountains of Kentucky. They're not the same thing.

Yes!

And now, as Nancy and Chuck cave, Trump gets even more money for THE WALL!

Keep it rolling Mr. President

Yeah, he got about 20% of what he wanted. What, about 50 miles worth? lmao

Build that fence!

lol he got 55 miles of a fence. lmfaooooooo

shut the government down for no damn reason.

had a deal that gave him 25 billion for the wall, said no.

had a bipartisan deal for 1.6 for border security. shut the government down.

gonna sign a deal for 1.375 bill for border security....for a fence.

the art of the deal.

Literally how he ran the USFL out of business. Impatient and goalless is no temperament for a leader.

Well he hasn't signed the deal yet and his official policy czar Ann Coulter has spoken so it isn't over yet.

“Trump talks a good game on the border wall but it's increasingly clear he's afraid to fight for it,” Coulter tweeted. “Call this his ‘Yellow New Deal.’"

I haven’t seen a MAGA hatter in this thread for a while. Wonder why.

They're taking some time to wrap their heads around the reality that they are now full-blown Socialists who want you and me to help pay for their st00pit frakking wall...

Fence Clem, fence.

I want to thank all Republicans for the work you have done in dealing with the Radical Left on Border Security. Not an easy task, but the Wall is being built and will be a great achievement and contributor toward life and safety within our Country!

-President of the United States of America
Donald Trump

Fence. Lol

Sen. Chuck Grassley is literally praying that Donald Trump will sign the border security bill

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-chuck-grassley-literally-praying-161727176.html

God responded, “I need to check with Hannity first.”

Anybody else listening to trump ramble on while he declares a state of emergency?

His guy makes Bush jr look like a genius.

He's still trying to sell the idea that Paco is supplying the drug trade with his back pack.

Hey, look over there! What is that?

Oh, its more of Trumps WALL being built!

Carry on.

You actually believe his BS. Some people never learn and trust habitual liars.

Yep. Donald is probably the dumbest person to ever serve in government, which is saying a lot. I have no idea how I'm going to explain to my future kids about how he was elected. I'm thinking about claiming that the entire US population had ergot poisoning over 4 years due to Annahauser-Busch, but I'm not sure if that will work.

What? Can't hear you over the bulldozers laying new WALL.

Sounds like a story Trump will make up for his grandchildren as the reason why he gets defeated in 2020.

I’m just gonna tell my kids it was because of opioid induced constipation.

Can’t think right if you can’t poop right.

Yeah, but 40 is going to say that you and CHS poop left.

You guys can't really fault 40 on this one. Over in Fox News land these things he is saying are being reported as reality. I tuned into Fox's Hannity for about half an hour yesterday, it was the saddest thing I've ever watched.

Grown ass adults telling each other bold face lies, then backing those lies up with talking points from more lies, all while mixing in fear and hate with every other word. I honestly think most of them are ready for rubber rooms.

The faithful base has little to no choice to buy into the crazy going on because they've been conditioned not to let any facts into their thinking, other than those provided by state propaganda outlets. They live in a 24/7/365 state of fear and pre-crapped pants. This is not healthy at all, no wonder they are all so deranged and vulnerable.

I mean when things like what we've been watching unfold with the wall, the emergency, the tax cut fail, and on and on and on... When these things are considered wins for the red team, well it just proves they will believe anything.

Trump's entire 2020 campaign will be to demonize the left by calling them the radical left and socialists... The right and much of the middle of the country is being conditioned to those terms right now. Step two is to attack any idea the left has to improve life for the working people as 'socialism' or 'nuts to even think about'. Then he will fear monger everything and anything, after all 'he is the only one' that can do anything to protect them. He says things like this knowing spines are a scarcity on the right. The sad thing is, it just might get him re-elected if he can sell it to the fence riders and non political types.

Senate Has Votes to Overturn Trump’s Emergency Declaration

The Senate is poised to rebuke President Trump’s national emergency declaration at the southwestern border. The only question: how big the Senate margin will be.

By Emily Cochrane
March 4, 2019

With Senator Rand Paul’s decision to support a resolution to block President Trump’s emergency declaration, Congress appears ready to deliver a stern rebuke to the president over his border wall and a clear statement that it will defend its ability to control federal spending.

Senator Paul, a libertarian-minded Kentuckian, said he will join fellow Republican Senators Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Thom Tillis of North Carolina, giving proponents of the resolution of disapproval the 51 votes they need, if Democrats remain united in their support.

On Monday, Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the majority leader, confirmed that the measure has the votes to pass the Senate. Senate leadership, he said, has been conferring with the Senate parliamentarian to see if the House-passed resolution could be amended before the vote.

“It’s an interesting question,” Mr. McConnell said at a news conference in Kentucky. “It’s never been done before.”

The measure, outlined in the National Emergencies Act, is the simplest way for Congress to end a president’s national emergency declaration. Mr. Trump has said he will veto it, and neither chamber is likely to muster the two-thirds majority needed to overturn the veto. But the plaintiffs in multiple lawsuits will most likely seize upon a congressional repudiation as support for their argument that, in declaring a national emergency to take money for his wall that was not appropriated by Congress, Mr. Trump is subverting the Constitution, which grants Congress clear control over federal spending.

The remaining question: How stern a rebuke will the Senate deliver?

Here’s what to watch for as more Republican senators prepare to announce how they will vote on the resolution.

The Pragmatists: Not from my backyard.

Mr. Trump is hoping to divert $3.6 billion from military construction projects to his cherished wall at the southwestern border, effectively subverting lawmakers and the budget they set.

Members of the Senate Appropriations Committee, who pride themselves on bipartisanship, have raised concern that Mr. Trump is taking funds that were carefully doled out after months of negotiation in the bill that he signed last month to fund the government through Sept. 30. His declaration marks the first time the National Emergency Act has been invoked because Congress has denied the president funds.

Senator Lamar Alexander, Republican of Tennessee, said the president should use funds already approved by Congress, for instance from Defense Department accounts to support interdiction of illegal drugs.

“It avoids taking money for military construction projects specifically approved by Congress such as military barracks and hospitals,” Mr. Alexander said in a speech on the Senate floor Thursday. “And it also avoids months or years of litigation, which could make it unlikely the full 234 miles are ever built.”

Others like Senator Martha McSally, Republican of Arizona, have said that they are seeking assurances that key military construction projects will not be affected. In a private lunch with Vice President Mike Pence last week, lawmakers asked for details about what projects would be affected. The Defense Department has not released that information.



Senator Roy Blunt, Republican of Missouri and another member of the Appropriations Committee, has also expressed misgivings about Mr. Trump upsetting the panel’s handiwork.

The Strict Constitutionalists: Not in Congress’s lane.

Multiple Republican senators have expressed unease about the precedent set by the declaration and the potential that a future Democratic president could use a national emergency declaration for liberal purposes, once Congress forfeits its exclusive, constitutionally granted power of the purse.

Senators Marco Rubio of Florida, Ted Cruz of Texas, and Mike Lee of Utah have all voiced concern on the constitutional question, though none of them has explicitly promised to overturn the emergency declaration.

Mr. Tillis, in an opinion piece published in The Washington Post outlining his argument, warned that conservatives needed to consider what some of the current Democratic presidential candidates would do with a national emergency: implement parts of the Green New Deal to address climate change, or limit access to guns to address gun violence, among other possibilities.

Even Mr. McConnell acknowledged Monday that the precedent was a concern and was part of the reason he had previously “argued, obviously without success, that the president not take this route.”

Supporters of the declaration say that the president is within his rights to use powers that Congress gave him through the National Emergencies Act in the 1970s.

“Using this authority is not and was not my preferred choice,” said Senator John Kennedy, Republican of Louisiana, speaking Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

But Senator Rand Paul, Republican of Kentucky, in an opinion piece on Fox News published late Sunday, was clear: “In September of 2014, I had these words to say: ‘The president acts like he's a king. He ignores the Constitution. He arrogantly says, 'If Congress will not act, then I must,’” Mr. Paul wrote, adding, “I would literally lose my political soul if I decided to treat President Trump different than President Obama.”

Even Mr. McConnell, the first to endorse Mr. Trump’s declaration, declined earlier this week to weigh in on the legality of the measure.

“We’re in the process of weighing that,” Mr. McConnell said when asked at a news conference on Tuesday. “I haven’t reached a total conclusion.”

The Politically Vulnerable: Not this year, please.

Republican senators facing a difficult re-election campaign next year are confronting a dilemma: Stick with Mr. Trump’s core voters or side with swing voters who largely oppose the wall and the emergency declaration to fund it.

Senator Cory Gardner, Republican of Colorado, hailing from a state that voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012, may be the most vulnerable Republican up for re-election next year, and he has not declared where he stands on the resolution of disapproval.

Nor has Ms. McSally, another targeted Republican up for election next year for the seat she was appointed to fill after John McCain’s death. Two other Republicans targeted by Democrats, Ms. Collins and Mr. Tillis, have come down on the side of opposing the emergency declaration.

A vote supporting the resolution, framed as a defense of Congress’s constitutional power of the purse — or conversely, a vote in support of Mr. Trump’s policies and use of executive power — could sway voters.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/us/politics/senate-emergency-declaration-trump.html

He will veto this, I wonder if they will have the vote then?

45* = One Legged Duck.

Even if he vetoes this action, the handwriting's on the wall: his more outrageous stuff will not get a blank check from now on.

'Twill be interesting to see how the Master Dealmaker fares in future negotiations.

Putin still got his money's worth.

Steady chowin' down on that "Duck a l'Orange"....

He certainly did...Uranium One!

Ok wiseguy, tell us exactly what he got out of that deal? I'll be waiting for a valid verifiable answer.

Ask the New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/ca...um-company.html

I don't see anything there pertaining to Putin getting his money's worth out of the Trump campaign, or anything else criminal? He (russia) took control of a companies with mining rights... Your problem seems to be that you think the Clintons were bribed. They might have been but where is the evidence and why hasn't anyone been charged? I think the whole thing is more GOPer whitewash and you are using it to normalize Trump's behavior.