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AOC and her ilk have their first victory as Amazon pulls its plans for a New York headquarters because of them.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
AOC and her ilk have their first victory as Amazon pulls its plans for a New York headquarters because of them.


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AOC and her ilk have their first victory as Amazon pulls its plans for a New York headquarters because of them.


"Anything is possible: today was the day a group of dedicated, everyday New Yorkers & their neighbors defeated Amazon’s corporate greed, its worker exploitation, and the power of the richest man in the world."

-AOC

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
AOC and her ilk have their first victory as Amazon pulls its plans for a New York headquarters because of them.


"Anything is possible: today was the day a group of dedicated, everyday New Yorkers & their neighbors defeated Amazon’s corporate greed, its worker exploitation, and the power of the richest man in the world."

-AOC


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She's so refreshing even if you don't agree 100% with her takes.


She is a media made star and a disgrace.


Like the guy you helped elect as president?


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
AOC and her ilk have their first victory as Amazon pulls its plans for a New York headquarters because of them.


"Anything is possible: today was the day a group of dedicated, everyday New Yorkers & their neighbors defeated Amazon’s corporate greed, its worker exploitation, and the power of the richest man in the world."

-AOC


Great job AOC, now send Amazon to the Red States where people will work with them to create jobs and prosperity.

Then we will have plenty of income to be taxed to fund your handouts, just like we always have. thumbsup

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Amazon pulls deal over something a woman says. #snowflakes


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I'm confused. She didn't want the Amazon deal because of the government handout to create jobs. Yet her green deal is a government handout to create jobs.


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I'm confused. She didn't want the Amazon deal because of the government handout to create jobs. Yet her green deal is a government handout to create jobs.


You are confused.

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I'm confused. She didn't want the Amazon deal because of the government handout to create jobs. Yet her green deal is a government handout to create jobs.


You are confused.


Then enlighten me. Last I checked, the government doesn't create jobs.


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I'm confused. She didn't want the Amazon deal because of the government handout to create jobs. Yet her green deal is a government handout to create jobs.


You are confused.


Then enlighten me. Last I checked, the government doesn't create jobs.


Well now I don't know where to begin tongue So I'll make it brief, going from last point to first.

1. Socialist governments create jobs all the time.
2. The US government creates jobs, one of the main problems of the shutdown was that US employees couldn't get paid.
3. The US government creates more job for the private sector by being their R&D arm.
3. The Green New Deal is broad policy framework and isn't a concrete plan.
4. The Green New Deal isn't a tax break to create jobs, it's a public undertaking to save the US from the most disastrous effects of global warming
5. AOC's has made a point to stress that private business cannot be involved in the Green New Deal.
6. No one wants the Amazon deal for a litany of reasons, especially reasons towards privacy. The Amazon campus in Seattle is the scariest place in the world
7. No one thinks that Amazon deserves another tax break.
8. The Amazon deal would hurt NYC in the long run.
9. This is just the general things you got wrong in 4 sentences.
10. I made well over a grand today due to this deal. That's not a point, I just wanted to brag smile

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Here's the laughable part of amazon not locating to Queens: AOC likes it, like she/they 'won' something.

She's happy that amazon decided to not locate there, because instead of giving amazon some $3 billion in tax abatement, the city and state can use that $3 billion to do other stuff.

Uh.........she doesn't understand tax abatement, does she? The city and state didn't have $3 billion they were going to give amazon. The city/state agreed to decrease their taxes by 3 billion over some period of time.

Tax abatement only occurs if there is a tax.

25,000 jobs that amazon promised will now go elsewhere. As will the construction costs, as well as housing, and everything else 25,000 good paying jobs results in.

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg

She's happy that amazon decided to not locate there, because instead of giving amazon some $3 billion in tax abatement, the city and state can use that $3 billion to do other stuff.


She never said that. I know that you hate AOC, but why lie?

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http://gothamist.com/2018/12/17/google_hudson_square_campus.php

Google Announces New $1 Billion Manhattan Campus In Hudson Square
BY JEN CHUNG IN NEWS ON DEC 17, 2018 9:44 AM



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As local elected officials continue to raise questions about Amazon's proposed, heavily-subsidized new campus in Long Island City, tech competitor Google announced it would continue to expand its New York City footprint by 1.7 million square feet, with lease agreements in Hudson Square.

Google, which already owns 111 Eighth Avenue and bought the Chelsea Market building for $2.4 billion earlier this year, said that it hoped to occupy the two spaces on Hudson Street by 2020 and the redeveloped St. John's Terminal at 550 Washington Street by 2022. The news follows rumors that Google was looking to find space for up to 12,000 more employees in New York.

Ruth Porat, SVP and CFO of Google and its holding company Alphabet wrote a blog post explaining the deal:

Today we’re taking the next step in our commitment to our New York City presence by investing over $1 billion in capital improvements to establish a new campus, Google Hudson Square. The over 1.7 million square-foot campus is a result of lease agreements at 315 and 345 Hudson Street and a signed letter of intent at 550 Washington Street.
When we came to New York City almost two decades ago, it was our first office outside of California. It’s now home to more than 7,000 employees, speaking 50 languages, working on a broad range of teams including Search, Ads, Maps, YouTube, Cloud, Technical Infrastructure, Sales, Partnerships and Research.

New York City continues to be a great source of diverse, world-class talent—that’s what brought Google to the city in 2000 and that’s what keeps us here. Earlier this year, we announced the $2.4 billion purchase of the Manhattan Chelsea Market and shared plans to lease additional space at Pier 57. We hope to start moving into the two Hudson Street buildings by 2020, followed by 550 Washington Street in 2022 once the building is complete. Google Hudson Square will be the primary location for our New York-based Global Business Organization.

Porat's blog post also detailed the company's partnerships with the community, though a recent NY Times article quoted a handful of community members who are not enamored by the tech giant; for instance, since Google offers free food to its employees, Bowery Kitchen Supplies co-owner believes his business's sandwich counter "has lost thousands of dollars a month in sales."
The neighborhood, west of Soho, will also be welcoming Disney, which will be demolishing all the buildings on an entire block (bounded by Spring, Vandam, Hudson and Varick Streets) for a new 1 million square foot complex. City Winery, which occupies a two-story building at the corner of Vandam and Varick, plans to move out by January 1, 2020.

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Look at that a multi-billion dollar company that doesn't need to pit Americans against each other to lower their tax rate. It's refreshing.

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
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She's happy that amazon decided to not locate there, because instead of giving amazon some $3 billion in tax abatement, the city and state can use that $3 billion to do other stuff.


She never said that. I know that you hate AOC, but why lie?


https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/vi...mp;action=click

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Originally Posted By: archbolddawg

She's happy that amazon decided to not locate there, because instead of giving amazon some $3 billion in tax abatement, the city and state can use that $3 billion to do other stuff.


She never said that. I know that you hate AOC, but why lie?


By the way, I don't hate her. I think her big, HUGE step from being a waitress to being in congress went to her head. She's a little too self important now.

Hey, she's getting her 15 minutes, and she's all over the news. She's relishing her new found fame. Good for her. I have a hunch it will change. She is, isn't she, one of the people that decried gov't. workers not getting paid during the shut down.........yet, she kept cashing her checks. Do I have that right?

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Originally Posted By: archbolddawg

She's happy that amazon decided to not locate there, because instead of giving amazon some $3 billion in tax abatement, the city and state can use that $3 billion to do other stuff.


She never said that. I know that you hate AOC, but why lie?


And I love the deflection and stupid inference that I hate AOC. It's weird, in the nsfw thing you claim to want a discussion. But, a 'discussion' for you is "agree with me, or I'll call you names."

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She's happy that amazon decided to not locate there, because instead of giving amazon some $3 billion in tax abatement, the city and state can use that $3 billion to do other stuff.


She never said that. I know that you hate AOC, but why lie?


And I love the deflection and stupid inference that I hate AOC. It's weird, in the nsfw thing you claim to want a discussion. But, a 'discussion' for you is "agree with me, or I'll call you names."



Get a life. In no way did I call you a name or mandate that you must agree with me. I'm just wondering why you're lying about the deal.

https://blog.aboutamazon.com/company-new...ew-headquarters

Here's the deal from Amazon. It's not just a tax cut that they're giving Amazon, but also hundreds of millions of dollars in grant money. That's not just a tax abatement. NYC was about to start subsidizing Amazon to create jobs instead of fixing their crumbling subway system that is already overburdened.

I also find it very offensive that you're saying that I'm name calling. That is against the rules of the forum. However, I do remember two days ago when you called me an arse in not so nice terms smile

Maybe you should stop projecting your own posting habits onto others. That's probably why you get into more fights than Vers during football season.

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Did you even read your link?

Here:
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Amazon will receive performance-based direct incentives of $1.525 billion based on the company creating 25,000 jobs in Long Island City. This includes a refundable tax credit through New York State’s Excelsior Program of up to $1.2 billion calculated as a percentage of the salaries Amazon expects to pay employees over the next 10 years, which equates to $48,000 per job for 25,000 jobs with an average wage of over $150,000; and a cash grant from Empire State Development of $325 million based on the square footage of buildings occupied in the next 10 years. Amazon will receive these incentives over the next decade based on the incremental jobs it creates each year and as it reaches building occupancy targets. The company will separately apply for as-of-right incentives including New York City’s Industrial & Commercial Abatement Program (ICAP) and New York City’s Relocation and Employment Assistance Program (REAP).


And, once again, here - your quote:
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She never said that. I know that you hate AOC, but why lie?


Did she say this? (hint: it's her talking) https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/vi...mp;action=click

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Did you even read your link?

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Amazon will receive performance-based direct incentives of $1.525 billion based on the company creating 25,000 jobs in Long Island City. This includes a refundable tax credit through New York State’s Excelsior Program of up to $1.2 billion calculated as a percentage of the salaries Amazon expects to pay employees over the next 10 years, which equates to $48,000 per job for 25,000 jobs with an average wage of over $150,000; and a cash grant from Empire State Development of $325 million based on the square footage of buildings occupied in the next 10 years. Amazon will receive these incentives over the next decade based on the incremental jobs it creates each year and as it reaches building occupancy targets. The company will separately apply for as-of-right incentives including New York City’s Industrial & Commercial Abatement Program (ICAP) and New York City’s Relocation and Employment Assistance Program (REAP).


And, once again, here - your quote:
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She never said that. I know that you hate AOC, but why lie?


Did she say this? (hint: it's her talking) https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/vi...mp;action=click



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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg

Here's the deal from Amazon. It's not just a tax cut that they're giving Amazon, but also hundreds of millions of dollars in grant money. That's not just a tax abatement. NYC was about to start subsidizing Amazon to create jobs instead of fixing their crumbling subway system that is already overburdened.


If I buy it, you better promise me that you'll use it.

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Did you even read your link?

Here:
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Amazon will receive performance-based direct incentives of $1.525 billion based on the company creating 25,000 jobs in Long Island City. This includes a refundable tax credit through New York State’s Excelsior Program of up to $1.2 billion calculated as a percentage of the salaries Amazon expects to pay employees over the next 10 years, which equates to $48,000 per job for 25,000 jobs with an average wage of over $150,000; and a cash grant from Empire State Development of $325 million based on the square footage of buildings occupied in the next 10 years. Amazon will receive these incentives over the next decade based on the incremental jobs it creates each year and as it reaches building occupancy targets. The company will separately apply for as-of-right incentives including New York City’s Industrial & Commercial Abatement Program (ICAP) and New York City’s Relocation and Employment Assistance Program (REAP).


And, once again, here - your quote:
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She never said that. I know that you hate AOC, but why lie?


Did she say this? (hint: it's her talking) https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/vi...mp;action=click



Alright man, how do I order you hooked on phonics?
Originally Posted By: CHSDawg

Here's the deal from Amazon. It's not just a tax cut that they're giving Amazon, but also hundreds of millions of dollars in grant money. That's not just a tax abatement. NYC was about to start subsidizing Amazon to create jobs instead of fixing their crumbling subway system that is already overburdened.


If I buy it, you better promise me that you'll use it.


Says the guy that said "she never said that"......even after being given the link to her saying it. Twice. A VIDEO of her saying it.

Yet, you resort to some lame attempt at discrediting me by saying I need hooked on phonics? Sad.

Why don't you buy yourself a 'Hooked on video" tape?

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Oh, about the 'grant money". Turns out NY and NYC can keep their grant money. And miss out on 25,000 jobs. Good paying jobs, from what I read. (you do know that the tax abatements were based on actual jobs created, right?)

Maybe NY and NYC should use some of that grant money to fix their problems?

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You need Hooked On Phonics, because every time you respond to me, you don't read my posts.

Here's your post:
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She's happy that amazon decided to not locate there, because instead of giving amazon some $3 billion in tax abatement, the city and state can use that $3 billion to do other stuff.

Uh.........she doesn't understand tax abatement, does she? The city and state didn't have $3 billion they were going to give amazon. The city/state agreed to decrease their taxes by 3 billion over some period of time.


This is not true, because it's not just a tax abatement but actual cash in hand grant money. Nor did she mention the tax abatement in YOUR weird video. Ever hear of youtube? Why am I at a search page?

Anyway, PM me your address and email and I'll send you the Hooked on Phonics collection so that you can read.

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On abc news tonight, they had a clip of her bragging about being able to spend the money on other things to help locals.

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On abc news tonight, they had a clip of her bragging about being able to spend the money on other things to help locals.


That they can thumbsup

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"If we were willing to give away $3 billion to get those jobs, we can invest that $3 billion ourselves....."

She doesn't have a clue that they don't have $3 billion.

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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
On abc news tonight, they had a clip of her bragging about being able to spend the money on other things to help locals.


You mean the money they don't have, and won't get? You can't not abate taxes on taxes that aren't there. Your net would be zero.

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On abc news tonight, they had a clip of her bragging about being able to spend the money on other things to help locals.


You mean the money they don't have, and won't get? You can't not abate taxes on taxes that aren't there. Your net would be zero.


Yes, this.

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
"If we were willing to give away $3 billion to get those jobs, we can invest that $3 billion ourselves....."

She doesn't have a clue that they don't have $3 billion.


The size of the State of New York's budget is 167 billion dollars. New York City's budget is 90 billion dollars.

DIAM! We have an equation we need solved!!!

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You need Hooked On Phonics, because every time you respond to me, you don't read my posts.


No offense, but phonics is about sounding words out w/the alphabet.

I think you should be referring to reading comprehension and reading fluency rather than phonics.

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
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On abc news tonight, they had a clip of her bragging about being able to spend the money on other things to help locals.


You mean the money they don't have, and won't get? You can't not abate taxes on taxes that aren't there. Your net would be zero.


Did you read the proposal? Before any jobs or abatement are created, the governments would give Amazon 300 million dollars to build their HQ... Why you always lying?

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You need Hooked On Phonics, because every time you respond to me, you don't read my posts.


No offense, but phonics is about sounding words out w/the alphabet.

I think you should be referring to reading comprehension and reading fluency rather than phonics.


Good to know. I never used it, so I have no idea. I just remember their commercials when I was growing up. Do you know of any reading comprehension programs I could buy for Arch?

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PM me your address, Arch and I'll help you read thumbsup Free two day shipping, but I'm not so cold hearted that I won't spring for 1 day delivery.

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I think a national emergency should be called to end tax abatement for big business. Local and state citizens are funding corporate welfare for big business and taking on the responsibility of their tax burden while schools, teachers and small businesses suffer for it.


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She just cost her district 25.000 jobs at at and average pay of 150.000 per year and shes proud of it and the libs here are defending this anti semite socio commie.SMH.

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At some point Americans need to take a stand against corporate welfare.


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At some point people will realize just how daft and destructive the Liberals really are.

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Yeah, let's give corporations who already don't pay any income taxes 3 billion more in tax abatements.


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