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These guys are too funny.

Again, another country with immense, valuable natural resources that is currently a living hell.

Hey, the inflation rate in Venezuela in 2018 was only 1,300,000%.

In other words, if at the start of the year, you had $1,000,000 (equivalent in Venezuelan money) ( you were a millionaire), at year end you were worth less than $1.

Here's what a Venezuelan billionaire looks like today:



This year they’re predicting 10,000,000% inflation.

How can you even buy anything?

This country has incredible shortages of everything (except paper money).



Toilet paper is worth more than the Venezuelan 500 bolívar soberano.






Oh...One other thing

Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro is blaming the United States (along with U.S. conspirators Brazil, Argentina, Canada, Panama, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Honduras, Paraguay, Peru)



He is very liberal.

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I’m a tad surprised trump isn’t in love with this guy.


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He ain't wrong.

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Rut Row...

I heard Cuba has sent 20,000 Security Forces into Venezuela to back and protect Maduro.

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Rut Row...

I heard Cuba has sent 20,000 Security Forces into Venezuela to back and protect Maduro.





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well, trump wants to escalate the situation, lets see how he handles this.

i look forward to the results, good or bad.


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https://youtu.be/30QzJKCUekQ

live look at the humanitarian aid going to Venezuela

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Michael Tracy has been crushing it lately.





We need to stay out of this mess. America first my ass.

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Exactly, let Venezuela sort out their own mess.


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That is what they said about Cuba in my youth.

They went on to become Soviet allies and a thorn in our side since. They supported Nicaragua, Grenada and now Venezuela against us.

We must support Democracy always, especially in our own hemisphere.

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how you gonna support democracy by appointing a leader who got zero votes?

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Recognize the good guy, boot the Dictator, stabilize the government, feed the people, hold elections.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Recognize the good guy, boot the Dictator, stabilize the government, feed the people, hold elections.


but they already have elections...

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Recognize the good guy, boot the Dictator, stabilize the government, feed the people, hold elections.
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That is what they said about Cuba in my youth.

They went on to become Soviet allies and a thorn in our side since. They supported Nicaragua, Grenada and now Venezuela against us.

We must support Democracy always, especially in our own hemisphere.


How can you say these things and support Trump? 40 you are a man of many faces... at least two.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Recognize the good guy, boot the Dictator, stabilize the government, feed the people, hold elections.
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That is what they said about Cuba in my youth.

They went on to become Soviet allies and a thorn in our side since. They supported Nicaragua, Grenada and now Venezuela against us.

We must support Democracy always, especially in our own hemisphere.


How can you say these things and support Trump? 40 you are a man of many faces... at least two.


The problem is yours not mine. You can't see anything beyond your hate of Trump.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Recognize the good guy, boot the Dictator, stabilize the government, feed the people, hold elections.
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
That is what they said about Cuba in my youth.

They went on to become Soviet allies and a thorn in our side since. They supported Nicaragua, Grenada and now Venezuela against us.

We must support Democracy always, especially in our own hemisphere.


How can you say these things and support Trump? 40 you are a man of many faces... at least two.


The problem is yours not mine. You can't see anything beyond your hate of Trump.


I see you 40. I see You.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Recognize the good guy, boot the Dictator, stabilize the government, feed the people, hold elections.
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That is what they said about Cuba in my youth.

They went on to become Soviet allies and a thorn in our side since. They supported Nicaragua, Grenada and now Venezuela against us.

We must support Democracy always, especially in our own hemisphere.


YES YES YES - and we should do the same in the Middle East, and the Far East and Asia and ......

Oh, hang on a minute ......


The more things change the more they stay the same.
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Pink Floyd's Waters slams Venezuela border aid concert


By Brian Ellsworth and Sarah Marsh

CARACAS (Reuters) - Pink Floyd co-founder Roger Waters slammed an upcoming "Live Aid"-style concert to raise funds for humanitarian aid for Venezuela, calling the event a U.S.-backed effort to tarnish the socialist government in a video circulating on Tuesday.

Billionaire Richard Branson is backing the Friday show in the Colombian border city of Cucuta with a fundraising target of $100 million to provide food and medicine for Venezuelans suffering widespread shortages.

Latin singers Alejandro Sanz, Nacho, Luis Fonsi and Maluma have so far confirmed they will perform in the concert, which has evoked comparisons to Irish rock star Bob Geldof's 1985 global "Live Aid" concert to raise money for famine relief in Ethiopia.

"It has nothing to do with humanitarian aid at all," the 75-year old Waters said. "It has to do with Richard Branson ... having bought the US saying, 'We have decided to take over Venezuela, for whatever our reasons may be.'"

"Venezuela Aid Live" is part of a broader western relief effort organised by Venezuela's opposition, that blames the ruling Socialists for the economy's hyperinflationary downwards spiral that has sparked the exodus of millions.

President Nicolas Maduro, who is facing growing international pressure to step down after his disputed re-election last year, denies there is a humanitarian crisis.

"Richard is helping them to raise awareness of the crisis in Venezuela and raise much needed funds through this event," a spokesperson for Virgin, which handles media inquiries for Branson, said in a statement. "This is not a political statement and the U.S. is not involved in any aspect of this."

The United States is openly backing Maduro's rival and congress chief Juan Guaido, who last month invoked constitutional provisions to declare himself interim president.

The opposition plans to bring aid into Venezuela on Saturday from collection points in neighbouring countries including Cucuta via sea and land, despite Maduro's refusal to let it in, setting up a possible clash with authorities.

Waters, the British rock group's principal songwriter who penned many of the hit songs on the hugely popular albums "The Dark Side of the Moon" and "The Wall," said the relief effort was part of the United States' attempts to paint a false picture of Venezuela to justify regime change.

To date there was "no mayhem, no murder, no apparent dictatorship" in Venezuela, he said, despite even government data putting the homicide rate among the world's highest.

"Do we really want Venezuela to turn in to another Iraq or Syria or Libya? I don't and neither do the Venezuelan people," Waters wrote.

This is not the first time the bass player has weighed into South American politics. During a concert in Brazil ahead of presidential elections there last year, Waters spoke out against then right-wing candidate Jair Bolsonaro, who is now president.

Maduro's government this week announced two concerts on Friday and Saturday just across the border from Cucuta to rival Branson's "Aid Live" show.

(Reporting by Brian Ellsworth and Sarah Marsh; editing by Bill Berkrot)



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Maduro arbitrarily detains Univision team headed by Jorge Ramos

A team of journalists from Univision News, headed by Jorge Ramos, was detained for two hours on Monday at the Miraflores Palace during an interview with Venezuelan leader Nicolás Maduro. They were later released unharmed but their equipment and mobile phones were confiscated.

Maduro became upset with the line of questioning after about 17 minutes, got up and walked out, according to Ramos. "He didn't like the things we were asking, about the lack of democracy in Venezuela, the torture of political prisoners, about the humanitarian crisis that they are living," Ramos said after his release.

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Venezuela was my home, and socialism destroyed it. Slowly, it will destroy America, too.

Daniel Di Martino, Opinion contributor


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While neither 'Medicare for All' nor a wealth tax will turn America into Venezuela overnight, all it would take is a series of catastrophic policies.


The first time I couldn’t buy food at the grocery store, I was 15 years old. It was 2014 in Caracas, Venezuela, and I had spent more than an hour in line waiting. When I got to the register, I noticed I had forgotten my ID that day. Without the ID, the government rationing system would not let the supermarket sell my family the full quota of food we needed. It was four days until the government allowed me to buy more.

This was fairly normal for me. All my life, I lived under socialism in Venezuela until I left and came to the United States as a student in 2016. Because the regime in charge imposed price controls and nationalized the most important private industries, production plummeted. No wonder I had to wait hours in lines to buy simple products such as toothpaste or flour.

And the shortages went far beyond the supermarket.

My family and I suffered from blackouts and lack of water. The regime nationalized electricity in 2007 in an effort to make electricity “free.” Unsurprisingly, this resulted in underinvestment in the electrical grid. By 2016, my home lost power roughly once a week.


Our water situation was even worse. Initially, my family didn’t have running water for only about one day per month, but as the years passed we sometimes went several weeks straight without it.

For all these problems, the regime has blamed an iguana, right-wing sabotage and even the weather.
A rich country, wasted resources

The excuses for these shortages were hollow: In reality, Venezuela has the largest proven oil reserves in the world to use for electricity, and three times more fresh water resources per person than the United States. The real reason my family went without water and electricity was the socialist economy instituted by dictators Hugo Chavez and Nicolas Maduro.

The welfare programs, many minimum-wage hikes and nationalizations implemented by their regimes resulted in a colossal government deficit that the central bank covered by simply printing more money — leading to rampant inflation. Now, prices double every few weeks, and the standard of living continues to plummet.
Mosaic depicts late Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, left, and Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro in Caracas on Jan. 30, 2019.


I watched what was once one of the richest countries in Latin America gradually fall apart under the weight of big government.

I didn’t need to look at statistics to see this but rather at my own family. When Chavez took office in 1999, my parents were earning several thousand dollars a month between the two of them. By 2016, due to inflation, they earned less than $2 a day. If my parents hadn’t fled the country for Spain in 2017, they’d now be earning less than $1 a day, the international definition of extreme poverty. Even now, the inflation rate in Venezuela is expected to reach 10 million percent this year.

Venezuela has become a country where a woeful number of children suffer from malnutrition, and where working two full-time jobs will pay for only 6 pounds of chicken a month.
American liberals embrace same failed policies

Though so many of us Venezuelans fled to the USA to escape from the destructive consequences of socialism, liberal politicians like Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Rep. José Serrano, D-N.Y., have praised the same kind of policies that produced famine, mass exodus and soaring inflation in Venezuela.

Even worse, in recent weeks, Democratic Reps. Ilhan Omar, Ro Khanna and Tulsi Gabbard have mischaracterized the protests against Maduro and condemned President Donald Trump’s widely supported moves to help end Maduro’s dictatorship.

Additionally, many congressional Democrats support Medicare for All and the Green New Deal, proposals that would nationalize the health insurance industry, guarantee everyone who wants it a job and massively raise taxes, increasing government intervention in the economy like few countries except Cuba and Venezuela have seen before. Proponents think that they can give all Americans quality health care, housing and everything for free and that somehow, politicians can do a better job at running a business than the business owners themselves.
Daniel Di Martino, center, with his parents in Caracas, Venezuela, in December 2016.


These proposals would skyrocket the budget deficit and national debt, which just reached a record $22 trillion. If that is not enough, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez endorsed paying for the proposal by asking the Federal Reserve to print money. This is exactly what produced Venezuela’s nightmare.

Even so, liberal economist Paul Krugman recently argued in a column that “whenever you see someone invoking Venezuela as a reason not to consider progressive policy ideas, you know right away that the person in question is uninformed, dishonest, or both.”

I can assure Mr. Krugman that I’m neither uninformed nor dishonest. Of course, it’s true that neither Medicare for All nor a wealth tax alone would turn the United States into Venezuela overnight. No single radical proposal would do that. However, if all or most of these measures are implemented, they could have the same catastrophic consequences for the American people that they had for Venezuela.

In his recent State of the Union address, President Trump said: “America will never be a socialist country.” I sincerely hope that the president is right, and that every American can resist the lure of false promises — so this great country can always shine above the dark cloud of socialism, and avoid Venezuela’s fate.

Daniel Di Martino is a Venezuelan expatriate and Young Voices contributor studying economics at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis. Follow him on Twitter @DanielDiMartino.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/v...umn/2861461002/


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While neither 'Medicare for All' nor a wealth tax will turn America into Venezuela overnight, all it would take is a series of catastrophic policies.


Yep electing a racist bigot like trump is a damn good start. Confusing facisim and communistic policies and mixing them in with true social policies is what Russia and Venezuela does best to suppress their people. But please continue and post facist propaganda .. their take on social policy is amusing.


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Even worse, in recent weeks, Democratic Reps. Ilhan Omar, Ro Khanna and Tulsi Gabbard have mischaracterized the protests against Maduro and condemned President Donald Trump’s widely supported moves to help end Maduro’s dictatorship.


Getting involved in foreign regime changes and regime chage wars is not in everyday Americans best interest. Not sure how that is a “mischaracterization”?

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But it worked so well in Iran! wink


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Even worse, in recent weeks, Democratic Reps. Ilhan Omar, Ro Khanna and Tulsi Gabbard have mischaracterized the protests against Maduro and condemned President Donald Trump’s widely supported moves to help end Maduro’s dictatorship.


Getting involved in foreign regime changes and regime chage wars is not in everyday Americans best interest. Not sure how that is a “mischaracterization”?


And when all of Venezuela's neighbors are begging the US for help in dealing with the situation, it does not work well for us to ignore them.

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Even worse, in recent weeks, Democratic Reps. Ilhan Omar, Ro Khanna and Tulsi Gabbard have mischaracterized the protests against Maduro and condemned President Donald Trump’s widely supported moves to help end Maduro’s dictatorship.


Getting involved in foreign regime changes and regime chage wars is not in everyday Americans best interest. Not sure how that is a “mischaracterization”?


And when all of Venezuela's neighbors are begging the US for help in dealing with the situation, it does not work well for us to ignore them.


I get what you're saying, but it's a zero sum game. We are dammed if we help them because it will create rebels and damned if we don't because we look like we are ignoring starving people. I would rather keep our money in America, 100% we are going to have troops in Venezuela in the next 5 years as a result of this. Fighting "terrorists" that hate America, that we created by getting involved to begin with. A never ending cycle that has existed since Eisenhower!

I want out of War....America first!

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We have history to see where getting involved in things like this lead. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.


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We have history to see where getting involved in things like this lead. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.


Why am I not surprised you are siding with Venezuela's allies in Russia, China, Cuba and Iran?

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I think you meant to send that as an e-mail to Trump.


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Eh, Russia has literally warned us not to do this. So if anything this flies against the "Trump is a Russian op" narrative.

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Even worse, in recent weeks, Democratic Reps. Ilhan Omar, Ro Khanna and Tulsi Gabbard have mischaracterized the protests against Maduro and condemned President Donald Trump’s widely supported moves to help end Maduro’s dictatorship.


Getting involved in foreign regime changes and regime chage wars is not in everyday Americans best interest. Not sure how that is a “mischaracterization”?


And when all of Venezuela's neighbors are begging the US for help in dealing with the situation, it does not work well for us to ignore them.


I get what you're saying, but it's a zero sum game. We are dammed if we help them because it will create rebels and damned if we don't because we look like we are ignoring starving people. I would rather keep our money in America, 100% we are going to have troops in Venezuela in the next 5 years as a result of this. Fighting "terrorists" that hate America, that we created by getting involved to begin with. A never ending cycle that has existed since Eisenhower!

I want out of War....America first!


I would rather see us err, if we err, on the side of helping and trying to make a positive difference.

I don't want war either but war is far down the list of things we can do to help. We started with saying we do not recognize the guy who stole the elections, added sanctions and we sent aid. Good start. thumbsup

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This is how it always starts.

You wanna know why Kim Yung Un is NEVER giving up his nukes? Now you know.

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This is how it always starts.

You wanna know why Kim Yung Un is NEVER giving up his nukes? Now you know.


What I know is these things are a process and not solved instantly.

North Korea was a problem on a level of 9 out of 10 when Trump became President.

After the first summit with Kim, it is a 7 or 8 out of 10.

Hopefully it will be a 5 or 6 by the end of this new summit.

It is a process.

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If the end game is getting him to de-nuke, planning coups and assassinating our paper dictators is not the way to instill confidence.....

nothing to do with Trump, it's America that does this, time and time again.

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But that's politics today. If you're against something Trump is doing, it's all about Trump. It couldn't possibly be a long standing American policy that shown itself to fail time and time again.


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I am fully aware that I sound like I am parroting Tulsi Gabbard as well.....because I am....because she is right.

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When people feel only one party is right about everything they've lost all sense of objectivity. Once people figure out that both political parties are guilty of the exact same thing, only them will they realize they've bought into what's killing America.


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