In addition, socialism provides a fake top down planning economy with artificial supply and demand. The market and prices don't dictate freely the way they're supposed to. I'm against most government interference, regulation, most tariffs in the market because of this reason.
The free market principle of the invisible hand is there for a reason.
Invisible hand that passes everything to the 1%ers. Bro you live in a Plutocracy, there is no capitalism here anymore and you are too blind to see it. We are talking about empowering the common man not some myth about pulling up your bootstraps and getting the American dream!
I'd love to have 1950s style opportunity today, but that is only going to come if we level the wealth inequality playing field and educate our working class. Have you looked at twitter or facebook or even on here? More than a few can't form a sentence or recite basic facts!
And you are just another statistic on how keeping people afraid of everything keeps you under the thumbs of those with real freedom. The say boogie man this week is socialist and give you a death toll from communist regimes and you lose you crap!
How about you calm down and look around. Maybe there are others you could give a hand up to, maybe even get one yourself. We are all in this together, there is no Red and Blue in we the people because that's what the founders wanted. People working together to build the perfect union. What we have now is not that at all.
Class warfare is a common tenant, talking point of advocating for socialism. All that talk that you preach about the 1%, why do you have a problem with people like that?
I'm perfectly calm I don't understand why do you always talk about the 1%? Do you think all rich people are bad? Do you think they some haven't earned what they've got? Do you think they're not entitled to keep what is theirs, that they've earned? Do you want their money? Do you want a handout that you haven't earned? I don't really get it.
When I don't succeed I don't blame my failures on the 1% either. I take responsibility. Blaming inequality because you can't succeed is a scapegoat and a BS excuse. Socialism promises a social utopia where everyone shares resources. If I make a living by working hard, you're darn right I'm going to keep and choose what I spend my money on. If I feel like helping people that is a choice, a CHOICE, not a forced government overly taxing me to shift money to people who didn't truly earn it.
I'm just truly trying to understand why someone would be for a system of socialism. To me that is like death...
Webster's defines socialism as the following:
socialism noun so·​cial·​ism | \ ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm \ Definition of socialism 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods 2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state 3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
I think people need to do a little thinking and understand the difference between having some socialist policies within a democracy and having a system of socialism.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
I think people need to do a little thinking and understand the difference between having some socialist policies within a democracy and having a system of socialism.
Save your breath ... the right wing propaganda machine has set the agenda and the stooges are parroting. End of story. Facts won't work, real life won't work.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
You seem to be against fundamental economics and the long term success that is capitalism. You need to learn from Milton Friedman. The people in the crowd could be OCD, CHS, or yourself. You need intervention.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
You already carry all of the liberal states. You lost the election in states like Michigan, Iowa, Wisconsin, Ohio and Pennsylvania and those are the places needed to win in 2020.
Winning New York, California and other already liberal states aren't going to give you any more electoral votes.
You're not going to flip the electoral college by coming out with an extremely wild progressive agenda. I think you can sell a living wage, free community college and national healthcare to voters in the states you need.
But when you start talking about reparations and a green deal that overhauls an entire economy in ten years, you're going over the top. When you start talking about free four year degrees for everyone, your talking point flies in the face of what it will take to win in 2020.
Somehow the left doesn't think you need the middle to win. But a lot of voters went from Obama voters to Trump voters for a reason. And those are the voters that decided the presidential election in 2016. A wildly progressive agenda will only help repeat that.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
and whatever you do, don't call them names, publicly, on a presidential campaign if they disagree with you. You get into a name calling battle with 45 and the outcome won't be good, he is not good at most things, but name calling....he's the man.
I like Bernie, his stance on private prisons would have tipped my hand into the D voting pool has he been the nomination.....but this narrative isn't going to go away. He's right, there is sooo much information, but that excuse doesn't work.
I like Bernie, his stance on private prisons would have tipped my hand into the D voting pool has he been the nomination.....but this narrative isn't going to go away. He's right, there is sooo much information, but that excuse doesn't work.
It seems to work well with the GOP sheep when trump spews his BS on the fake news.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
So the field is crowded and growing. It's early, and almost no candidate has done anything to distinguish him/herself. Until now.
Yesterday, I listened to a full hour-long interview with the least-known of them all: South Bend IN's mayor Pete Buttigeig (pronounced: 'bootijidge').
A wholly impressive individual. Intelligent, insanely articulate, and possessing a fleshed-out vision of what America's next steps should be.
Layered, nuanced, and considerate on issues both on and beneath the surface, he has an air of balance and good judgement. It doesn't hurt that he served his nation in Afghanistan, earned a Rhodes scholarship, and distinguished himself at both Harvard and Oxford.
Plain-spoken and no-nonsense, he presents a commonsense Midwest approach to contemporary issues... all while expressing himself in full, complete sentences.
Picture an energetic, youthful candidate like Beto O'Rourke... but with more brains and gravitas.
I'll be looking forward to seeing f he'll make a serious run. He's the least-known, but could easily end up being the most impressive of all Done candidates.
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He needs to lay his groundwork in Iowa, NEB, KS, etc like BHO44 did. IN is already mostly his, now that Pence is out-of-state. Having an infrastructure at his back would help, as well. I don't know how well-organized he is just yet. His advantage: He's not from either coast, he speaks like his neighbors, and has a clear vision that isn't super extreme.
I would be interested to hear the views of Razorthorns, who actually lives in Buttigeig's town. Would be nice to hear about his administrative style from a first-hand POV.
Pete Buttigieg is a sharp guy. He's young and likely has a long political career ahead. A Presidential run will get his name out there on a national level.
He will also be the first openly gay candidate to run for President.
Clem, did you listen to his interview on WNYC with Amy Walter by chance?
He will also be the first openly gay candidate to run for President.
Truth in print. I ignored it/didn't mention it because for me it's the least important of his personal traits/attributes. Dude's presentation is sharp as a razor, and he has his crap in a pile.
Thanks for the other interview tip, Dawg. Deep appreciation.
He will also be the first openly gay candidate to run for President.
Truth in print. I ignored it/didn't mention it because for me it's the least important of his personal traits/attributes. Dude's presentation is sharp as a razor, and he has his crap in a pile.
Thanks for the other interview tip, Dawg. Deep appreciation.
Being gay will hurt his run for President in the bible belt.
You sure as heck won't find healthcare options on the left . You get your government for all healthcare and you're going to like it! (Ted Knight voice) Not private entities for you!
I'd rather have options and free choice through the market.
He will also be the first openly gay candidate to run for President.
Truth in print. I ignored it/didn't mention it because for me it's the least important of his personal traits/attributes. Dude's presentation is sharp as a razor, and he has his crap in a pile.
Thanks for the other interview tip, Dawg. Deep appreciation.
Being gay will hurt his run for President in the bible belt.
It will hurt him in more than just the bible belt...This country as a whole is not ready for that yet. Religious or not.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
I'm just confused why the far right cares about moderate thoughts in the Democratic party. I can't remember the last time a moderate Republican was elected to anything. Certainly not since Obama was elected.
Do you think her gay conversion therapy past is surmountable?
I think it's a zero sum issue. She will apologies (already has) explain that she was young and has grown since (she has). At the end of the day on that issue, she will probably offset any hard lefts who will never forgive for hard rights who like that sort of trash.
It would only be a deal breaker within the DNC I'm assuming. Could be wrong.
