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Rams, Patriots both receive two third-round compensatory picks
Posted by Charean Williams on February 22, 2019, 2:59 PM EST
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The NFL awarded compensatory draft picks Friday, and the Patriots and Rams both received two third-round picks.

The Super Bowl teams will have extra picks to reload this offseason.

The Patriots’ third-round choices are No. 97 overall and 101 overall. The Rams’ third-round choices are No. 98 and 99 overall.

In all, 15 teams received additional selections after losing more or better compensatory free agents (CFA) than it acquired last year based on a formula.

The Rams lost Derek Carrier, Cody Davis, Trumaine Johnson and Sammy Watkins, while signing no compensatory free agents. (The free agents the Rams signed were released by other teams and not compensatory free agents.)

The Patriots lost Danny Amendola, Johnson Bademosi, Malcolm Butler, Cameron Fleming, Dion Lewis and Nate Solder as CFAs. They signed CFAs Adrian Clayborn and Jeremy Hill.

Washington (96th overall), Carolina (100th) and Baltimore (102nd) each received one third-round pick.

In the fourth round, Indianapolis (No. 135 overall), Dallas (136), Atlanta (137) and Philadelphia (138) get extra selections.

The Giants (No. 171 overall), Atlanta (172) and Washington (173) received extra fifth-rounders.

In the sixth round, the Patriots (No. 205), Washington (206), Arizona (207), Philadelphia (208), Minnesota (209), Cincinnati (210, 211 and 213), San Francisco (212) and Kansas City (214) got additional picks.

In the seventh round, the Vikings (No. 247, 250), Cardinals (248, 249, 254), Rams (251), Patriots (252) and Washington (253) all received extra choices.

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We signed a bunch of free agents and weren’t horrible, not a great combo in the compensatory system.

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Patriots and Rams in the Super Bowl both receive 2 3rd picks among others...

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Good teams will routinely and regularly have their players poached away from them by the rest of the league. Compensatory picks are the mechanism to offset and balance that. To keep it from being too over-powering, the highest these can be is a 3rd.

Bad teams tend to not get these because they usually don't lose quality players where they don't scramble to immediately sign a replacement. Good teams that are well run are reloading from talent they developed, so they tend to consistently get these picks as talent leaves and they don't feel the pressing need to sign a replacement in free agency.


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We will be receiving these type of picks sooner than later ...


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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
Good teams will routinely and regularly have their players poached away from them by the rest of the league. Compensatory picks are the mechanism to offset and balance that. To keep it from being too over-powering, the highest these can be is a 3rd.

Bad teams tend to not get these because they usually don't lose quality players where they don't scramble to immediately sign a replacement. Good teams that are well run are reloading from talent they developed, so they tend to consistently get these picks as talent leaves and they don't feel the pressing need to sign a replacement in free agency.



The Patriots and Rams replaced the players they lost by way of trade or signing a released player (Cooks, Peters, Suh, etc.). Neither of those factor into the compensatory pick formula.

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Originally Posted By: PastorMarc
We will be receiving these type of picks sooner than later ...


We got a ton under Ray Farmer.

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True. I don't necessarily think they have to be "great" players. I mean Arizona got a comp pick for us signing Drew Stanton.

I think comp picks are an interesting piece of the puzzle. I believe we've had none the past two seasons, but we had 4 2 seasons ago. They were used to obtain Jamie Collins, Brock Osweiler (Nick Chubb) and Roderick Johnson. Just more assets for wheeling and dealing.

Blindly signing free agents for the heck of it can cost a team a comp pick. It's all a part of the game that makes the nfl fascinating for me.

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Browns don't know how to work the system, but they rarely do anyway.

Johnson Bademosi, hmm.

So the formula is if teams take your free agents when you want to hang onto your free agents, ... you get credit.

Oh Browns, What do the Browns do?

The Browns cut their own players, even the best ones, and have for a few years now.

So!

Conclusion, Changing coaches is bad, because if your coach can't make the players you have Know how to play right,

then nobody's going to want to sign your free agents while you still (want to) hang on to them.

Plus, if you change coaches, the new coach, inevitably

As dawgtalkers have seen for years-s , brings in his new players and cuts the players you already have.

Basically, there is a formula

And it's punishment for being an unstable organization that can't keep it's own members on the team, coach or player.

And it's punishment for being a team, or town nobody wants to stay in, or come to just because your place is not "hip" or "shiek" .

So the Browns get screwed because the world hates Cleveland.
Because it's cold and gray and cloudy 320 days a year.

Could be more than coincidence that the Browns' glory days, largly ended with the start of free agency.

Anyway, nothing to see here,

The Browns didn't get any comp. pics.

But the Browns Did get, Landry , Perriman, last year,

And they cut Rb. Hyde, last year, they didn't develop Hue's opening day starter at RB, so some other team would want to snatch him away and maybe give the Browns a compensatory pick, while they move on to Chubb.

IIRC, RB Hyde, just left.

This is kinda what I meant by the Browns don't work the system to their advantage.

OR! OR! This whole thread and Compensatory pics don't matter much, don't amount to anything, and ain't worth the buffalo scat on a nickel.

Take your pick. thumbsup


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I do find it oddly humorous that we traded Shelton for pick 95 and the Pats got picks 97 and 101 anyway. Free player for them, I guess.


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So now we are at
Pick 1- 17)
Pick 2- 49)
Pick 3- 80)
Pick 3- 95)
Pick 4- 119)
Pick 5- 144)
Pick 5- 155)
Pick 5- 170)
Pick 6- 189)
Pick 7- 231)

Sooo... there's that I guess smile


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Quote:
Browns don't know how to work the system, but they rarely do anyway.



Not sure I follow completely...

I also don't think we "cut" our best players. I'm not sure which "best" players we cut. You could argue Haden but we tried to rework his contract and he said no thanks and didn't want to be a part of what we were building.

I think we've traded players away or they went elsewhere without resigning here. It's that latter part that awards you a compensatory pick unless you sign free agents yourself... and those free agents must be other expired contract free agents. I don't believe players cut or waived effect compensatory picks. cfrs is one who seems to up on this the most from what I've read on here. He can correct me if I'm wrong.

I think we only lost Crowell to free agency, but we signed a handful of players. The rest of the players were cut. I don't think they were the best, either, but cutting them nets you nothing because ultimately you're saying you don't need/want them.

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Originally Posted By: RedBaron
So now we are at
Pick 1- 17)
Pick 2- 49)
Pick 3- 80)
Pick 3- 95)
Pick 4- 119)
Pick 5- 144)
Pick 5- 155)
Pick 5- 170)
Pick 6- 189)
Pick 7- 231)

Sooo... there's that I guess smile



I see 4 picks there, I don't want to see make the team; because they'll be taking spots of a better, already Browns player, probably.

It's time to start doing things right,
and though I don't know which players will be the ones who shouldn't make it, I've seen enough years to know a good average is the Browns don't have need for 10 college also rans this year, Not with the young talent already on the team, 5-or-6 impact players will help them best. AND KEEP WHAT YA GOT!


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Originally Posted By: RedBaron
I do find it oddly humorous that we traded Shelton for pick 95 and the Pats got picks 97 and 101 anyway. Free player for them, I guess.


The Patriots know what they are doing. The compensatory system is ripe for exploitation and the nobody exploits weaknesses better than the Patriots.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: RedBaron
I do find it oddly humorous that we traded Shelton for pick 95 and the Pats got picks 97 and 101 anyway. Free player for them, I guess.


The Patriots know what they are doing. The compensatory system is ripe for exploitation and the nobody exploits weaknesses better than the Patriots.


Except that he wasn't free. He cost them the 95th pick.

Their other losses in free agency got them the compensatory picks. If they had not traded for Shelton, they would have 95, 97, and 101.


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: RedBaron
I do find it oddly humorous that we traded Shelton for pick 95 and the Pats got picks 97 and 101 anyway. Free player for them, I guess.


The Patriots know what they are doing. The compensatory system is ripe for exploitation and the nobody exploits weaknesses better than the Patriots.


Except that he wasn't free. He cost them the 95th pick.

Their other losses in free agency got them the compensatory picks. If they had not traded for Shelton, they would have 95, 97, and 101.


Right. But they’ll get another pick back when Shelton leaves in free agency.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: RedBaron
I do find it oddly humorous that we traded Shelton for pick 95 and the Pats got picks 97 and 101 anyway. Free player for them, I guess.


The Patriots know what they are doing. The compensatory system is ripe for exploitation and the nobody exploits weaknesses better than the Patriots.


Except that he wasn't free. He cost them the 95th pick.

Their other losses in free agency got them the compensatory picks. If they had not traded for Shelton, they would have 95, 97, and 101.


Right. But they’ll get another pick back when Shelton leaves in free agency.


Perhaps. Not a lot of teams want a guy like Shelton. He's not a pass rusher, at all. He's a run stuffer, and his complete lack of a pass rush will limit him to a situational basis only, which limits the contract he will receive. I just don't see him getting any kind of a significant contract. That would limit any compensation.


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It was a turn of phrase.

Though I agree that Shelton will not calculate to a 3rd next year(a 5th for sure), they still got a one-year rental for about the same spot they would have had their 1st 3rd round pick in (95th vs 97th).

Guess that's what I get for over-simplifying my statement smile


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yep we received more then we gave up, so no comp picks.


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Should we presume all UFAs are also without worth? I have favored bundling some later picks to move up into better hunting grounds. But I believe that i see your point.

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