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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
They way to do that is simple, hire a pro. Have them come to your hotel room, do what you gotta do, pay the bill, and they leave.

If they recognize you, there isn't much they can do because the service they are providing is illegal. If they Out you, they out themselves.


Just like Eliot Spitzer did! Oh wait, those "pros" (Ashley Dupre and Svetlana Zakharova) extorted him for hundreds of thousands of dollars and outed him as well.

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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
They way to do that is simple, hire a pro. Have them come to your hotel room, do what you gotta do, pay the bill, and they leave.

If they recognize you, there isn't much they can do because the service they are providing is illegal. If they Out you, they out themselves.


Just like Eliot Spitzer did! Oh wait, those "pros" (Ashley Dupre and Svetlana Zakharova) extorted him for hundreds of thousands of dollars and outed him as well.


Yep, best to just go to Vegas where it's legal and healthier.


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Originally Posted By: Tulsa
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They way to do that is simple, hire a pro. Have them come to your hotel room, do what you gotta do, pay the bill, and they leave.

If they recognize you, there isn't much they can do because the service they are providing is illegal. If they Out you, they out themselves.


Just like Eliot Spitzer did! Oh wait, those "pros" (Ashley Dupre and Svetlana Zakharova) extorted him for hundreds of thousands of dollars and outed him as well.


Yep, best to just go to Vegas where it's legal and healthier.


Well Nevada, it is illegal in Vegas (Clark County)


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I don't think what Kraft did is a big deal.


Sorry, bro, gotta disagree. It's the market that perpetuates the criminal activity behind the slave trade. Without the market, there is no trade.


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Originally Posted By: FloridaFan
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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
They way to do that is simple, hire a pro. Have them come to your hotel room, do what you gotta do, pay the bill, and they leave.

If they recognize you, there isn't much they can do because the service they are providing is illegal. If they Out you, they out themselves.


Just like Eliot Spitzer did! Oh wait, those "pros" (Ashley Dupre and Svetlana Zakharova) extorted him for hundreds of thousands of dollars and outed him as well.


Yep, best to just go to Vegas where it's legal and healthier.


Well Nevada, it is illegal in Vegas (Clark County)


Sin City has a problem with this sin?


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Originally Posted By: Milk Man
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They way to do that is simple, hire a pro. Have them come to your hotel room, do what you gotta do, pay the bill, and they leave.

If they recognize you, there isn't much they can do because the service they are providing is illegal. If they Out you, they out themselves.


Just like Eliot Spitzer did! Oh wait, those "pros" (Ashley Dupre and Svetlana Zakharova) extorted him for hundreds of thousands of dollars and outed him as well.


Then he's in the same situation that he is in now, except, he wouldn't have the stigma of using young Asian girls as a sex slave.

Embarrassing? Sure, but at least it's with a woman that advertises herself as available for private services of this type.

But, either way, the man is morally bankrupt.


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This is sad and disgusting. Modern day sex slaves.

Whiny ass black people who were never slaves complaining that they need to be paid reparations.

And here we have actual real life sex slaves in our country, and barely anyone gives a crap. Where is the justice for these women? Where is the outrage?

Sad.


Whiny ass black people?


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I don't think what Kraft did is a big deal.


Sorry, bro, gotta disagree. It's the market that perpetuates the criminal activity behind the slave trade. Without the market, there is no trade.


Those guys can play stupid all they want, but they have to know that these young, foreign girls didn't willingly come over here to have illegal sex with multiple fat old guys every night to earn a meager living.


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I don't think what Kraft did is a big deal.


Sorry, bro, gotta disagree. It's the market that perpetuates the criminal activity behind the slave trade. Without the market, there is no trade.


Those guys can play stupid all they want, but they have to know that these young, foreign girls didn't willingly come over here to have illegal sex with multiple fat old guys every night to earn a meager living.


And then there's that.


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Those guys can play stupid all they want, but they have to know that these young, foreign girls didn't willingly come over here to have illegal sex with multiple fat old guys every night to earn a meager living.


This x 10.


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I feel like all the facts have not come to light yet.


Eve do you remember when I told you. All men are dogs some of us are just better trained.


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I feel like all the facts have not come to light yet.


Eve do you remember when I told you. All men are dogs some of us are just better trained.


This is very true. Wise words there.

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My comment on this before I sign back out....if the authorities knew some of these women were sex slaves, some underage, why did they not rescue them immediately?

What is more important, rescuing a slave, or finding out who is showing up to get a hummer?


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My comment on this before I sign back out....if the authorities knew some of these women were sex slaves, some underage, why did they not rescue them immediately?

What is more important, rescuing a slave, or finding out who is showing up to get a hummer?


Quote of the year, right there.


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My comment on this before I sign back out....if the authorities knew some of these women were sex slaves, some underage, why did they not rescue them immediately?

What is more important, rescuing a slave, or finding out who is showing up to get a hummer?


This is damn good point. I almost hate commenting on threads like this because it's so easy to have your words misconstrued, but again, you raise a great point.

If we look at the order of importance in regards to what law enforcement should prioritize, how would you guys rank them. [Terrible syntax, but I've been up since 2:15 A.M. and cut down 3 trees today. I'm tired.]

Here's my order:

1. Save the sex slaves. Remove them immediately from the premises.

2. Go after the people who forced these females into this trade and are exploiting them.

3. Arrest the dumb schmucks who happen to be on site the day of the sting.

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I'd rank them as you did. Most people would, I imagine.


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I'd rank them as you did. Most people would, I imagine.


I wonder if they delayed sting is to catch a few big names that will scare others away from using the next one that pops up. And I'm only guessing, but by stopping the sex shop on a random day, they save the victims, but might not get the ringleaders and that star John to parade around for the public.

And Vers, like you, this thread is just too gross to touch. However, I'll comment a bit more...the first thing that came to mind when I heard his name and these charges, how he was parading that 30-something girlfriend less than year after his wife of 30+ years passed. Sure, it was 9-10 months after her passing, but I don't know. I'm not judging him because he's his own man and we don't know what his late wanted him to do after she died, but it just seemed sleazy. With him frequenting establishments like this seems to cement that initial feeling of mine.

On PTI today, Tony said this is the beginning of the end for his ownership of the Pats. I wasn't sure at first, but I think he's right. This will tumble out of control and stain the franchise enough that he'll "step down" to give control to his son. He'll still be around to help run the team behind the scenes, but his name won't be the checks anymore.


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finding out who is showing up to get a hummer?


I had no clue they were running a car dealership too.


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More info is coming out in this case. Some things I have read.

--Kraft pleaded not guilty.

--Kraft did not have sex w/any of the girls who were part of the trafficking.

--Kraft had sex w/the manager of the facility and another employee.

--Kraft went back and received a massage while he was face down. He was turned over and two different acts were performed on him. Thus, it's kinda hard to say he "solicitated" it.

--Legal experts are saying the case is weak for several reasons.

--Legal experts are saying the local police mishandled the investigation and were intent on embarrassing men instead of stopping a crime. This sting went on for several months.

So................like I said earlier, it is best to wait before jumping to conclusions.

With all of that said...........if I were advising Mr. Kraft, I would suggest that he express shock and outrage that the facility is part of a sex trafficking ring and that he is starting a foundation and donating bit-time money to fight against sex trafficking. Be a human being and the public perception is likely to change.

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Copy of the police report.....


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I can't read that report. What point are you attempting to make, if any?

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Yep, the two women he was filmed having encounters with were 45 and 58 years old. They sure made it sound like the case was stronger than that.


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I wish I could post the article I read, but I'm afraid I would get suspended because of some of the language.

I think Kraft will get off because the police were out of line. Folks will complain that he got off because of his money, but I don't think that is true.

However, I still think it would be wise for Kraft to say he is sickened that he visited a place that dealt in human trafficking and that he wants to make a difference by starting a foundation and donating substantial amounts of money to fighting against human trafficking.

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Bobbie here looks like he's gotten over his wifey's passing just fine..

Just GOOGLE Robert Kraft's girlfriend.. Riki Noel Lander



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Half hour - $59
Full hour - $79

He entered the business at 10:59, he left the room by 11:13. I sure hope he didn't pay for the full hour.


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Half hour - $59
Full hour - $79

He entered the business at 10:59, he left the room by 11:13. I sure hope he didn't pay for the full hour.


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Half hour - $59
Full hour - $79

He entered the business at 10:59, he left the room by 11:13. I sure hope he didn't pay for the full hour.


Talk about "Wham Bam Thank You Ma'am"!




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Talk about "Wham Bam Thank You Ma'am"!


It was more like just Bam. There was not enough time for the Wham or the Thank You.


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"began manipulating"...hahaha.


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