So, I saw something a few times a couple weeks ago Clem, and when I saw it, I honestly didn't know how to react or what to think. I hadn't brought it up before because I didn't know how. I think I'll just throw it out there and see what happens.
I'm sitting at a stop light and I see a city bus drive by. On the electronic board that usually displays the route and next stop it simply said
"For Rosa Parks".
That's it. No scrolling sentence. No added context.
I saw that and was like, what the hell is that supposed to mean?
Like, what was the promo? If you're a person of color you get choice seating for the month? It just seemed like such an awkward thing to do for a bussingsystem. Was it supposed to be like a sports franchise that uses Native American imagery and say "No, we're not culturally appropriating anyone, we're celebrating our fantastic relationship with our local Tribes!".
I don't know man. It's easily one of the oddest things I've ever seen.
It is odd. And no... I don't know what it was meant to convey/communicate, either. It's cryptic ah with nothing else to help the message along.
My best guess is that it was nothing more than a very general (and superficial) nod to Black History Month. The accepted American folklore we are taught in History classes suggest that the modern Civil Rights movement was launched by Rosa Parks' protest... on a bus.
It's probably no more deep or superficial than that. At least that's how I'm perceiving it.
So, I saw something a few times a couple weeks ago Clem, and when I saw it, I honestly didn't know how to react or what to think. I hadn't brought it up before because I didn't know how. I think I'll just throw it out there and see what happens.
I'm sitting at a stop light and I see a city bus drive by. On the electronic board that usually displays the route and next stop it simply said
"For Rosa Parks".
That's it. No scrolling sentence. No added context.
I saw that and was like, what the hell is that supposed to mean?
Like, what was the promo? If you're a person of color you get choice seating for the month? It just seemed like such an awkward thing to do for a bussingsystem. Was it supposed to be like a sports franchise that uses Native American imagery and say "No, we're not culturally appropriating anyone, we're celebrating our fantastic relationship with our local Tribes!".
I don't know man. It's easily one of the oddest things I've ever seen.
It is odd. And no... I don't know what it was meant to convey/communicate, either. It's cryptic ah with nothing else to help the message along.
My best guess is that it was nothing more than a very general (and superficial) nod to Black History Month. The accepted American folklore we are taught in History classes suggest that the modern Civil Rights movement was launched by Rosa Parks' protest... on a bus.
It's probably no more deep or superficial than that. At least that's how I'm perceiving it.
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Yeah, what you're saying makes sense.
"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." -Jack Burton
-It looks like the Harvard Boys know what they are doing after all.
So, I saw something a few times a couple weeks ago Clem, and when I saw it, I honestly didn't know how to react or what to think. I hadn't brought it up before because I didn't know how. I think I'll just throw it out there and see what happens.
I'm sitting at a stop light and I see a city bus drive by. On the electronic board that usually displays the route and next stop it simply said
"For Rosa Parks".
That's it. No scrolling sentence. No added context.
I saw that and was like, what the hell is that supposed to mean?
Like, what was the promo? If you're a person of color you get choice seating for the month? It just seemed like such an awkward thing to do for a bussingsystem. Was it supposed to be like a sports franchise that uses Native American imagery and say "No, we're not culturally appropriating anyone, we're celebrating our fantastic relationship with our local Tribes!".
I don't know man. It's easily one of the oddest things I've ever seen.
It is odd. And no... I don't know what it was meant to convey/communicate, either. It's cryptic ah with nothing else to help the message along.
My best guess is that it was nothing more than a very general (and superficial) nod to Black History Month. The accepted American folklore we are taught in History classes suggest that the modern Civil Rights movement was launched by Rosa Parks' protest... on a bus.
It's probably no more deep or superficial than that. At least that's how I'm perceiving it.
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Yeah, what you're saying makes sense.
You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG
Let me say this,, and in no way is it meant to lessen the effects of slavery on americans.
I never owned a slave, I'm also not the type that would have owned a slave.
I seriously doubt there are any people that were slaves still alive.
For me, this is a political stunt.
Yes, it happened, yes it was horrific. the time for reparations was at the end of the civil war...
Reparations were offered after the Civil War. Former slaves could get 40 acres and a mule, or passage back to Africa to Liberia.
That last what a few years? Then the next president overturned it and it went right back to sharecropping. The 40 acres thing is a blight on history, had they stuck to it, we could actually not be discussing this as true reparations would have been given long ago.
With that said, has any other empire apologized in such a public way for slavery?
Let me say this,, and in no way is it meant to lessen the effects of slavery on americans.
I never owned a slave, I'm also not the type that would have owned a slave.
I seriously doubt there are any people that were slaves still alive.
For me, this is a political stunt.
Yes, it happened, yes it was horrific. the time for reparations was at the end of the civil war...
Less than 2% of people in America did , but somehow because the people who did were the same color as me I am responsible for their actions . I am not necessarily against reparations for slavery, but its not as simple as the US Government cutting a check to African Americans. Now if we could trace some of the huge corporations back to their plantation roots, we could be on to something
You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG
Which makes this entire topic counterproductive to their party. The way to win the 2020 race is to win over states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan. You're not going to win mid western states by saying and promoting outlandish ideas.
Getting more votes in states like New York and California aren't going to change the electoral college count.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Which makes this entire topic counterproductive to their party. The way to win the 2020 race is to win over states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan. You're not going to win mid western states by saying and promoting outlandish ideas.
Getting more votes in states like New York and California aren't going to change the electoral college count.
Those states have liberal and centrist voters too. The problem is that the ideas the left has are demonized so much by the right that voters in swing states become misinformed, discuss the ideas with GOPers socially, and turn on the ideas. Just like the attack on socialism, attacking the green new deal, medicare for all, affordable/free education, basic income, and prison reform; the smear campaigns from the right destroy reasonable conversation.
The average voter is clueless in Ohio. All you have to do is ask people how good Trump is doing to see it. smh
If both side would stop twisting facts and have fact filled rational debates we would all be better off. But it will never happen. Reason and logic left the building years ago.
i cant wait til the check gets cuts so i can sing negro spirituals in front of Pit and Devil's house.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I work with the public, and some of the political conversations that I hear, especially coming from people in the 59-79 age range, it's absolutely mind blowing to hear their perspectives.
Basically, their whole belief system is tied to whatever the conservative agenda happens to be at that moment. And they cannot see anything outside of that perspective.....They are like droids, robots programmed to think a particular way, and unable to compute anything outside their bubble...
I work with the public, and some of the political conversations that I hear, especially coming from people in the 59-79 age range, it's absolutely mind blowing to hear their perspectives.
Basically, their whole belief system is tied to whatever the conservative agenda happens to be at that moment. And they cannot see anything outside of that perspective.....They are like droids, robots programmed to think a particular way, and unable to compute anything outside their bubble...
You say that like the left arent a bunch of programmed sheep themselves???
I work with the public, and some of the political conversations that I hear, especially coming from people in the 59-79 age range, it's absolutely mind blowing to hear their perspectives.
Basically, their whole belief system is tied to whatever the conservative agenda happens to be at that moment. And they cannot see anything outside of that perspective.....They are like droids, robots programmed to think a particular way, and unable to compute anything outside their bubble...
Yes as there is no way to convince them that Socialism and Infanticide are now okey dokey. They won't give up their beliefs in God Almighty or reconsider what is good and evil because some talking head tells them times have changed.
They have lived an entire lifetime knowing that down to earth conservative ideals actually work for a prosperous life.
They have been brainwashed into doing what is right and good. They have witnessed what does not work and leads to a persons destruction.
I work with the public, and some of the political conversations that I hear, especially coming from people in the 59-79 age range, it's absolutely mind blowing to hear their perspectives.
Basically, their whole belief system is tied to whatever the conservative agenda happens to be at that moment. And they cannot see anything outside of that perspective.....They are like droids, robots programmed to think a particular way, and unable to compute anything outside their bubble...
It's always been that way with political parties on both sides. The difference now is the lack of civility, the dismissal of fact based rational debate, and compromise. Since the Tea Party it's been all or nothing on both sides. That's the crap that needs to end, or at least deescalate.
Reparations for what? No one who is currently living has been affected by anything relating to slavery.
Sounds like a socialist wealth redistribution and a pyramid scheme to me!!!!!!
A few years ago, the subject of reparations came up at this same address. I wrote an entire op/ed-length essay about what real reparations should be/look like... and how they could be done for the betterment of all America... without considering money at all. In fact, I remember arguing that the exchange of money would cheapen true reparations efforts to the point of doing more harm than good.
Everyone thinks money when the word 'reparations' is used. Money isn't going to fix a gottammed thing where this issue is concerned. This is a problem that money cannot solve.
I'm not going to bang out another long-form essay about this, because:
1. I'm older today than I was when I wrote the first one. My time is more valuable now. I don't care to spend the same amount of time and effort on you people as I once did. The returns only rarely balanced the investments, anyway. 2. It's somewhere in the archives for people to find on their own. Folks don't value something that they get for free.
My solution to the reparations issue would work, would settle the issue once and for all... and would involve no exchange of money at all. But it will never be employed, because the price is too high, and it's more painful than an cash outlay to a segment of the population, no matter how exorbitant the number.
It's a few years old. I don't remember the thread title. But I'm there, if you wish to look it up.
This is a touchy subject and because we are on the internet rather than face-to-face, intentions will probably be misconstrued. But, I'll try.
Here are the definitions for reparations.
Quote:
Definition of reparation
1a : a repairing or keeping in repair b reparations plural : repairs
2a : the act of making amends, offering expiation, or giving satisfaction for a wrong or injury b : something done or given as amends or satisfaction
There was a third one, but it involved nations. Not sure it's relevant. What the heck...........I'll add it:
Quote:
: the payment of damages : indemnification specifically : compensation in money or materials payable by a defeated nation for damages to or expenditures sustained by another nation as a result of hostilities with the defeated nation —usually used in plural
In my opinion, the United States has certainly met the first definition and almost certainly met the guidelines of the second definition.
The question would be about the third definition. Do blacks equal a "defeated nation?" I'm sorry, but that is a reach.
I find it odd that blacks who complain about being lumped into a category and then turn around and lump all whites into a category. I wasn't part of the people who enslaved blacks. Yet, some want me to pay blacks who were not enslaved?
LOL.......I'm sorry. The idea is absurd and it will only accomplish two things.
1. It will result in the proponents of this bill to lose their respective elections.
and...
2. Continue to widen the divide between the races.
I am all for bridging that divide. I want to help minorities as much as I can. However, one has to be realistic and not embrace fragile and divisive resolutions for past sins and current inequalities. One must think of the big-picture and how we can devise solutions that will benefit all of us, rather than one group or the other.
I love when white people act like making amends meant the end of slavery.
As if we didn’t have the klan, Jim Crow, segregation, anti drug bill, crime bill in the 90’s, as well as other things, completely devastate our community.
AA’s have only been “free” for 55 years. Yea, there are a ton of AA’s who are still very much alive and well today who remember segregation times.
Can’t wait til the check gets cut. White people will still whine about the divide they themselves created in the first place, while I divide my check between the savings account and E*TRADE.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Definitely said white people though. I am talking to you like a man. You have your opinion. I gave mine.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
You had to correct a spelling error, didn't you? Don't lie to me.
You had to fix it... or the entire post would have failed ... at a 'Hindenburg' level.
I'm right, aren't I? (mmmm hmmmm... just nod silently. That way, it'll be just between us...)
It would appear that your initial effort was actually clever- by half.
An 'OG' would never allow substandard product to hit the streets with his brand on it. "Edited by" on a smackdown post is the online equivalent of a face tattoo that reads: "Born Too Loose."
See? -this is why 'bench time' is important for Backup Playaz like 40 $cent: they get a front-row classroom seat to study The Franchise- at work.
Journeymen are never too old to learn something new.
So honoring Rosa Parks offends you? and youre a cop?? Jeez
What? He asked a question about something he didn't understand. Sounds like you're the one offended that a white person is looking for clarification.
God help us if we reach out for understanding to a person of color.
Thanks Pit.
Did you notice king didn't even answer my original question as to what it was supposed to mean?
Well maybe I am wrong but i took " what the hell is that supposed to mean?" as being offended or disturbed by it . If not , then my apologies, tone can be hard to interpret on a message board.
But I think the interpratation I would assume is that the fight for equality will continue on in honor of Rosa Parks(and people like her)
You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG
So honoring Rosa Parks offends you? and youre a cop?? Jeez
What? He asked a question about something he didn't understand. Sounds like you're the one offended that a white person is looking for clarification.
God help us if we reach out for understanding to a person of color.
Thanks Pit.
Did you notice king didn't even answer my original question as to what it was supposed to mean?
Well maybe I am wrong but i took " what the hell is that supposed to mean?" as being offended or disturbed by it . If not , then my apologies, tone can be hard to interpret on a message board.
But I think the interpratation I would assume is that the fight for equality will continue on in honor of Rosa Parks(and people like her)
In a manner of speaking, yeah, my response of "what the hell is that supposed to mean?" probably was and is rooted in feeling a base sense of being offended or disturbed.
But not for your assumption that I would be offended or disturbed by the celebration of someone like Rosa Parks. Quite the opposite actually.
There's a certain dark irony of a bussing system, once held as a clear cut illustration of people of color being treated as second class citizens, presumably celebrating her heroism. I mean, it's not like the bus driver stood up for her. It's not like the bus company refused to enforce the back of the bus policy.
"For Rosa Parks" most likely is a clumsy, not well relayed attempt to celebrate her. I guess I'm just not aware of the bussing system's contribution to the advancement of Civil Rights so on the face it seems like a weird and maybe inappropriate platform given who they were talking about.
"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." -Jack Burton
-It looks like the Harvard Boys know what they are doing after all.
So honoring Rosa Parks offends you? and youre a cop?? Jeez
What? He asked a question about something he didn't understand. Sounds like you're the one offended that a white person is looking for clarification.
God help us if we reach out for understanding to a person of color.
Thanks Pit.
Did you notice king didn't even answer my original question as to what it was supposed to mean?
Well maybe I am wrong but i took " what the hell is that supposed to mean?" as being offended or disturbed by it . If not , then my apologies, tone can be hard to interpret on a message board.
But I think the interpratation I would assume is that the fight for equality will continue on in honor of Rosa Parks(and people like her)
In a manner of speaking, yeah, my response of "what the hell is that supposed to mean?" probably was and is rooted in feeling a base sense of being offended or disturbed.
But not for your assumption that I would be offended or disturbed by the celebration of someone like Rosa Parks. Quite the opposite actually.
There's a certain dark irony of a bussing system, once held as a clear cut illustration of people of color being treated as second class citizens, presumably celebrating her heroism. I mean, it's not like the bus driver stood up for her. It's not like the bus company refused to enforce the back of the bus policy.
"For Rosa Parks" most likely is a clumsy, not well relayed attempt to celebrate her. I guess I'm just not aware of the bussing system's contribution to the advancement of Civil Rights so on the face it seems like a weird and maybe inappropriate platform given who they were talking about.
Interesting , never really thought of it in that way. I guess the next question would be who put that on the bus Was it something the bus company did, or something someone rented space for , and did ?
You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG
When the check gets cut, imma do blackface in front of devils house. Then I’m going to poop on in the middle of the street and claim PTSD.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
i cant wait til the check gets cuts so i can sing negro spirituals in front of Pit and Devil's house.
You can sing whatever you want. But I strongly suggest you stay in the public street. Private property laws in Tennessee don't favor you stepping onto private property to make a public display of annoyance.
And I wouldn't count on strong ticket sales in this neck of the woods. That's the only check you stand a chance of getting.
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Let me say this,, and in no way is it meant to lessen the effects of slavery on americans.
I never owned a slave, I'm also not the type that would have owned a slave.
I seriously doubt there are any people that were slaves still alive.
For me, this is a political stunt.
Yes, it happened, yes it was horrific. the time for reparations was at the end of the civil war...
Ha,, last night I realized that my family wasn't even in the USA. The first person related to me at all is my Grandmothers (fathers side) father who apparently came here in 1905.
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
I can’t wait til the check gets cut so I can drive over your mail box and then blame it on illegals.
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