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DiamDawg #1596613 02/28/19 01:30 PM
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I don't feel anyone is saying "Don't sign one". I certainly don't think Dorsey is saying that either. What I don't think we'll be seeing is three or four big $$$ contract deals.

After reading your follow up post I think we're pretty much on the same page.


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Pretty much ... but thats never stopped us from going at it in the past ... *L* ...

Like Vers said .. its open to interpretation ...




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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Pretty much ... but thats never stopped us from going at it in the past ... *L* ...


And in more cases than not I've pretty much enjoyed that! smile


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The last 5 SB’s have been won by QB’s not on rookie contracts ... 3 of them the pats ... 1 the donks led by Manning and the Iggles last year with Foles as their QB ..


I am not sure if people don't get the idea of building a team while your qb is on his rookie contract or if they just don't want to get it?

This a fairly new strategy, Diam. It takes awhile for it to produce the desired results. The rookie contracts are vastly different now than they were in the past. Thus, it's in process right now. It's not a long-standing strategy.

Btw---------the Eagles had Wentz as their qb and he was lost to injury. He was on his rookie contract. Foles was the back-up.

It's obvious that contending young teams like the Rams, Eagles, and Chiefs are taking advantage of the rookie contracts.

I am not suggesting that we should "spend wildly." I'm saying now is the time to acquire good players that will surround and support your young qb.

I am also saying that bringing in quality free agents after Myles, Baker, Ward, and Chubb reach their second contract is going to be much more difficult.

I truly don't see where the confusion lies. It's freaking common sense. The only thing I can think of is that some of us attach different meanings into acquiring players now while you can afford them. So, to be clear..........I am NOT advocating to spend wildly. I'm saying to acquire good players to support your young studs while you can afford it.

I think Dorsey made a big splash last year. He made trades, he signed free agents in areas that needed upgraded, used his draft assets, etc to make a "huge splash" in upgrading the talent on the roster. I don't think he will stop trying to improve the team.

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What I don't think we'll be seeing is three or four big $$$ contract deals.


I don't think he will either.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog


I am not sure if people don't get the idea of building a team while your qb is on his rookie contract or if they just don't want to get it?



I hope that comment wasn’t reffering to me ... to me thats COMMON SENSE .... i even said in my post that it is a HUGE ADVANTAGE ...

I think your directing a lot of your comments at me lately because u know I won’t attack like most of the others do ... i’ll ask questions or just let it go because I think i know what your doing ...

I guess I’m checking in now, to see if thats true ... *L* ...

I’m sure ypu’ll let me know one way or the other ... wink ...




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And I think we had a communication problem in this area earlier. I made the comment that I didn't feel Dorsey would make a big splash in the FA market.

And this is what I meant by that. I just didn't see him signing three or four huge contract deals. I think he will make another big splash this year in terms of upgrading our talent via the FA market. He just has a knack of making such improvements without breaking the bank.

We'll see more marginal players departing that the fans have over ranked and hear them scream loudly about it. Until the Browns look better than last year..... again.


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I'm just telling you........after FA is over, don't come up to me saying I was wrong about Dorsey not signing 3-4 expensive free agents, because I have never said anything close to that. And you being from Tennessee don't scare me none.

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Well, I'm not "from Tennessee" I just live here now.

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Speaking about impending free agent Frank Clark on Thursday, Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said "Frank will be with us, yeah."

The Seahawks have until Tuesday to apply the franchise tag. Carroll said the team is interested in a long-term deal. "Frank just turned, he’s 25, he’s still a very young football player," Carroll said. "He made a huge step this year in terms of his leadership and just growth and his maturity is so obvious. I was really proud of seeing that develop from Frank." Clark notched a career-high 13 sacks despite playing through elbow issues in both arms. He has missed only two games in four years.

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Gonna be REAL interesting what Dorsey does in FA.

I'm seeing ONE BIG TIMER. Then depth.

Who's the biggest STUD he'll get? Hmmmm.

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Tuesday at 4:00 PM we’ll know what the options are gonna be .... the Clowney’s, Lawrences and Clarks of the world will be franchised or options ... same with all the mid level and depth level guys also ...

I can’t wait for FA ... the first phase of construction on putting the finishing touches on

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Our 2nd rounder and last 3rd rounder for Houston and Seattles 4th rounder next year works for me.


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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg




The great Dorsey misdirection. We've seen this play out before.

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The great Dorsey misdirection. We've seen this play out before.


I hope Dorsey is staying true to those comments but this is the beginning of the lying season with the combine, FA, and draft preparations going on. Perhaps these comments are being said to leverage future discussions.


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The #Eagles have locked up a huge free agent before it begins: They agreed to terms with DE Brandon Graham on a three-year contract extension.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1101491762999296000

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If this happenend ... oh my ... what an O with AB/Thomas and Kamara ... HOLY CRAP BATMAN ....

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Mike Silver of NFL Network said to "keep an eye on" the Saints in trade talks for Antonio Brown.

It's unclear if Silver is reporting this or merely speculating, though New Orleans would obviously be an ideal landing spot for the veteran wideout. Pairing Michael Thomas with a future Hall of Famer in AB would make the Saints' passing game nearly unstoppable. The problem, of course, is that Thomas is up for an extension and paying both him and Brown would be difficult to pull off. As it stands now, the Saints have just under $13 million in available cap space, fifth-fewest among the league's 32 teams. The Saints could certainly benefit from adding another top-level pass-catcher, though Brown landing in New Orleans is probably just a pipe dream.

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What about Olivier Vernon if the Giants do in fact trade him?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001...-olivier-vernon

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That's a lot of money for his sack total.

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Is Perriman going to test FA? Will Rosenhaus turn him into Pryor 2.0?

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The source on the story is Tony Grossi. That means there is no source.


Grossi seen stuffing his mouth with Lobster and Filet Mignon as he was being slipped an envelope what appeared to be stuffed with Money... wink


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Yeah, but that doesn't sound like a bad gig if you can get it.

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Barring any last-minute snags, the Jacksonville Jaguars are expected to sign free-agent quarterback Nick Foles to a multiyear contract when the new league year opens next week, according to sources.

Teams are not allowed to talk deals with free agents until March 11, and no deals can be announced until the start of the new league year on March 13.

The Jaguars are expected to release quarterback Blake Bortles and install Foles as their starter. Jacksonville will have to pay $6.5 million of Bortles' 2019 salary, which was fully guaranteed when he signed his current contract last year.

The Jaguars' expected signing of Foles was first reported by Philly.com.

Philadelphia Eagles general manager Howie Roseman said Wednesday that the team would not place the franchise tag on Foles, leaving him a free agent.

"He deserves an opportunity to lead a team," Roseman said.


http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26130769/jags-expected-sign-foles-next-week

I wouldn't mind Blake Bortles as a backup QB.

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Depends on the price.

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Barring any last-minute snags, the Jacksonville Jaguars are expected to sign free-agent quarterback Nick Foles to a multiyear contract when the new league year opens next week, according to sources.

Teams are not allowed to talk deals with free agents until March 11, and no deals can be announced until the start of the new league year on March 13.

The Jaguars are expected to release quarterback Blake Bortles and install Foles as their starter. Jacksonville will have to pay $6.5 million of Bortles' 2019 salary, which was fully guaranteed when he signed his current contract last year.

The Jaguars' expected signing of Foles was first reported by Philly.com.

Philadelphia Eagles general manager Howie Roseman said Wednesday that the team would not place the franchise tag on Foles, leaving him a free agent.

"He deserves an opportunity to lead a team," Roseman said.


http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26130769/jags-expected-sign-foles-next-week

I wouldn't mind Blake Bortles as a backup QB.
JMO , but I dont think Bortles fits what we do on offense at all


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He said backup.

Bortles can run. That's important. He has experience. That is important. He was part of a team that made the AFC championship game and should have won.

Did I mention that he said backup?

Again, depends on the price.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Depends on the price.



I agree. It also depends on if the guy can become a back-up.


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Depends on the price.



I agree. It also depends on if the guy can become a back-up.


And willing to accept that role at this point, in case that is not what you meant.

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Depends on the price.



I agree. It also depends on if the guy can become a back-up.


And willing to accept that role at this point, in case that is not what you meant.


It was. Some players can be a good back-up and some can't.


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I'd prefer to just keep Tyrod to Bortles. Who knows what TT will have as a market though


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I have to assume that Bortles has a bigger ego than to allow himself to be put in a supporting/backup role. But you just can't tell...


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I think cfrs is referring back to the Osweiler trade. I don't think he's saying we should sign him.

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I have to assume that Bortles has a bigger ego than to allow himself to be put in a supporting/backup role. But you just can't tell...



There comes a time when ego has to give way to reality. What team is going to chase after Bortles to be their starting QB?

He is in a similar situation as Tyrod Taylor is. He's OK ..... but not a different maker.

Bortles was QB on a team where the biggest thing he had to do was not screw things up. Teams like having a QB who just doesn't screw things up as a backup, but few want that as their starter. However, he was in a perfect situation with the Jags, with a strong run game and a strong defense.

Jacksonville's defense was top 10 in total defense, and top 5 in scoring defense. All they wanted was a guy who wouldn't screw things up and could make a few plays for them with his arm and legs. They wound up choosing our castoff, Cody Kessler, over Blake Bortles.

Bortles will have a hard time finding a starting gig anywhere. He couldn't make it work in the perfect situation in Jacksonville. Where will he make it work? What team in need of a starting QB offers a better situation for him to succeed as a starting QB?


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I'd rather bring back Kessler than sign Bortles. Bortles doesn't seem to have the makeup to be a good backup. I have questions about his work ethic as the starter, and I don't expect them to lessen if he's relegated to the bench on game days. Not that I'd want Kessler to start games, but I think he'd do a better job of helping Baker get ready while also trying to get better himself.


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Your question is, who would take him as a starter,,,

I guess a team that has two situations:

1. A bad starter and
2. someone on the coaching staff that thinks he can work with him to improve him in some fashion

I don't know who that is.


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Everyone likes Burns's breakdowns, so here are his on the various positions thus far:

Cleveland Browns 2019 free-agent options at linebacker: Film Room | cleveland.com
https://www.cleveland.com/expo/sports/g6...-film-room.html

Cleveland Browns 2019 free-agent options at defensive end, a breakdown: Film Room | cleveland.com
https://www.cleveland.com/expo/sports/g6...-film-room.html

Breaking down the Browns' free agency options at defensive tackle: Film Room | cleveland.com
https://www.cleveland.com/expo/sports/g6...-film-room.html

Cleveland Browns 2019 free-agent options at wide receiver: Film Room | cleveland.com
https://www.cleveland.com/expo/sports/g6...-film-room.html


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