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COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- Fans cheered, players laughed, horns honked. It was quite a celebration.

That was the reaction around Ohio Stadium, but it wasn't for Ohio State's 38-6 win over Youngstown State on Saturday. Rather it was for Michigan's stunning 34-32 home loss to Appalachian State that ended later.

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The final minutes of the game were shown on the big screen at the stadium after most of the 105,000 paying fans had filed out. The blocked field goal in the last seconds that preserved the win elicited a large roar in the near-empty stadium. Workers in the press box had to be shushed because they were rejoicing too loudly after the upset.

Even the Buckeyes smiled when the final score was relayed to them.

Yet, Ohio State coach Jim Tressel says he had the opposite reaction. He was rooting for the Wolverines.

"I'm never glad when a conference opponent loses outside of your game with them," Tressel said on Tuesday. "You're always rooting for your brethren in the Big Ten."

That might be so, but such a high-profile loss will undoubtedly make it much easier for Tressel and his staff to emphasize the threat of a mammoth upset is always present. No. 12 Ohio State is a lopsided favorite on Saturday against Akron.

"Anytime you see an alleged upset anywhere, it's a great reminder," Tressel said. "It (the thought) only lasts 30 seconds so you can get your mind back on what you have to do, but I'm sure every time, even if you see one on NFL Sunday where the 0-4 team beats the 4-0 team, it's just another reminder."

Defensive back Donald Washington said he has suffered through some awful losses and that it's best for the Wolverines to just forget about the humiliating defeat.

"You have to just come back and focus on the next task at hand," he said. "You can't dwell on last week because it's gone, you can't change it. I'm sure those guys are coming back and they're ready for week two."

Appalachian State and Youngstown State are powerhouses in the Football Championship Subdivision, formerly known as I-AA. They met last year in the I-AA national semifinals, eventual champion Appalachian State winning 49-24. Since that was Youngstown State's most recent game, that was the game tape the Buckeyes watched much of last week to get ready for the Penguins.

"Every time you watched the film you'd say, hey, this (Appalachian State) is a good football team," Tressel said.

It's a constant battle for the elite programs, avoiding overlooking an unknown opponent that can make history by winning.

"Our coaches do a great job every week kind of explaining to us that any team coming in here is going to be fired up," Buckeyes wideout Brian Robiskie said.

Tressel said it's never easy to prepare a team when everyone is telling the players they should win big. Most of those kinds of games are in September, making it even harder to get a team ready.

"They're earlier in the year and you know less about yourself, you're a little more uneasy at the start," Tressel said. "And you know less about your opponent."

Ohio State's players said they expect the Wolverines to bounce back, starting with this week's game against Oregon.

"Michigan is a great football team and they'll come back," Robiskie said evenly. "They'll be all right."

The Buckeyes acknowledged that the Wolverines' embarrassment must be similar to what they felt after losing to Florida 41-14 in the BCS national championship game last January.

Tressel was asked if a painful loss must be buried or if a team should try to learn from it.

"I'm sure the thing that bothers every single person on their team is that they didn't play the best they were capable of playing, not unlike the things we did in the Florida game," Tressel said.

If he made that comparison, which is questionalble, he is as clueless as you.


Face it man....you got punked.

I Dont See Tressel Make a Comparison To Florida At All In That Article.

Only a Reference To It At The End..

The fact that he referenced Florida says a lot. You call it a reference, I call it a comparison. Perhaps your right. Either way he is discussing a 1AA team beating a #5 team and then referencing Ohio State losing to Florida.

Then he is a dumbass.

But I don't think he is.


If that is really the case, you should want him fired.

Is that what you think??

What in the world are you talking about? Why are you getting so upset? We're allowed to debate stuff man. Geeeez

I'm not sure I get your drift.

I don't see a comparison between the two games as for upsets. What Tressell was asked if it's something to learn from or forget and he replied that basically not playing to your potential bothers you. I don't see a comparison. I would think any coach playing for a national title and losing isn't going to say "we go punked, or owned" they are going to say we didn't play our game, they did, we got beat.

end of story. Florida outplayed Ohio and won, Appalachian State outplayed Michigan and won.
They both might be upsets, or "upsets" but not NEARLY on the same level.

In fact, it didn't surprise me that Florida won, considering they play later into the year and are a lot fresher come bowl time.

lol i've seen some pretty IFY replies by peen lately...

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The guy is talking about how a big time loss really hurts... OSU losing to UF was a huge loss... UM losing to App State is a huge loss... that's the comparision... also the players compared it because everyone told the OSU players how they were going to win big... same with the App State players... that's how it's compared.

Not the two teams themselves....

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The similarities are there,......Two teams that were so extremely unprepared for their opponent,........In both cases the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of the coach.

The loss to App. State for Michigan does compare to the loss to Florida for Ohio State. Not really in the sense that it was an upset in the Florida/OSU game, because it wasn't. But, moreso because it just proves the point that the Big Ten struggles against teams with alot of speed.

You are kidding me right? did you just say Floridas win over OSU was not n upset? and that Tressell meant that big ten struggels against teams with speed? that my friend is a joke...how did u get all that from the article said?

I understand that Jay...that is why I said I don't think Tressell is a dummy and said I thought him making the comparison was questionable.

My comments are directed at the person posting this in an effort to make the comparison.

I believe the comparison is there.. and I think it's valid... If you go into a game a 24 point favorite, and get beat by 2, it's embarrassing.... if you go in a 2 point favorite and get beat by 27, it's embarrassing....

On the other hand, it's a good thing that he made the off hand comment about Florida in the last sentence, otherwise the Buckeye faithful would be focusing on the part where he called Michigan his "brethern" and they would want him fired for that...

His comparison isn't Florida to Appalation State it's the comparison of Ohio State and Michigan both losing a game where they felt they didn't play to thier potential.

Jim Tressel in no way shape or form is calling Florida a Div. II school.

...just clicking

For the record, we can compare anything we want in respect to Florida and App State.

Compare = To examine the character or qualities of, as of two or more persons or things, for the purpose of discovering their resemblances or differences.

To say, "you can't compare the two" is wrong. You can compare anything.

Reading comprehension 101:

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The Buckeyes acknowledged that the Wolverines' embarrassment must be similar to what they felt after losing to Florida 41-14

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This clearly states the the feeling of emabarrassment is similar . Not that the circumstances or situtation that caused the embarassment are the same or even analogous.

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Tressel was asked if a painful loss must be buried or if a team should try to learn from it.

"I'm sure the thing that bothers every single person on their team is that they , not unlike the things we did in the Florida game," Tressel said.

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Clearly a question that was prodding Tressel to expand on the alleged similarities, He replies by stating that a team has to bury a tough loss. Not saying that the OSU loss was as tough as U of M's loss, or that they were even similar. Just that they were tough losses for each team that must be put behind them for them to be successful.

He further expounds on that saying when a team didn't play the best they were capable of playing , which clearly applies to OSU and U of M in theses games, it bothers one long afterwards. He's not saying that the level of upset was the same, or even that one was any better or worse than the other. Just that the situation causes a lot of regret and second-guessing. He's not even comparing the two games, just the disappointments and feelings that losses like that produce, and what must be done to overcome them.

What's all the debate about???

Clearly it means that Florida is capable of getting lucky.... TWICE.

I suppose that is one way to look at it.

Can the apple get the ball into the endzone?

Can the apple get the ball into the endzone?

According to Diam and Ammo, only if it's from Notre Dame......

What about Couch and Holcomb? They were quite a pear.

I'm plum disgusted with this thread......

I think any further discussion of former Browns QB's is fruitless.

but what if the apple can't win? Will RAC say, Go ride the pine, apple.

That would definitely squash any chances of future heroics.

If Couch were still on the team, do you think he should start over Frye?

lettuce just see how this year pans out

I just hope the guys in the pumpkin helmets win some games . . .

I'm sure he'd see it coming.. his momma wasn't raisin no dummy.

I hope it doesn't make him melon choly.......