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In whhat round is Metcalf projected to be chosen?
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Ole Miss’ D.K. Metcalf, a physical specimen who is projected to be a first-round pick, likely won’t be available, but the Browns have options to inject talent into their receiving corps beyond the No. 17 selection. It includes a wave of players who have the always-coveted size and length Butler possesses. https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/wrs...medium=referral
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In whhat round is Metcalf projected to be chosen? Depends on who you ask. The WR class is very deep and if you ask 5 different scouts, GMs, media heads, their top 5 WRs, they're each bringing in their own list. We might have a better idea after the 3C and 40 times tomorrow, but right now we don't really know. To answer your question, I've seen him listed as a top 10 pick as well as a 3rd round pick. Your answer is dependent on who you listen to and we probably won't know more until we're a week or two away from the draft.
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1.6% body fat...shouldn't he be DEAD?
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In whhat round is Metcalf projected to be chosen? After his run and vertical leap, and the fact he has good film on him...he will be a definite top 10 pick and possibly a top 5 pick.
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My concern with him is durability. I don't think I would expend the resources it would take to land him.
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meh...Hakeem Butler just popped a 4.49 40-yard dash. And managed to through up 18 reps with the world's most insane wing span.  Anyway, Metcalf is a beast (the only top 20 talent WR imho), but his injuries are bothersome. Butler is now my "penciled in" 2nd round guy...for this week at least
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I knew I was not blind when I saw him play. Someone said he was slow.
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Metcalf is the buzz.
Hard to deny what your eyes see.
Although I am fairly certain Dorsey goes DL. Metcalf would be hard to turn down if he is there.
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Metcalf is the buzz.
Hard to deny what your eyes see.
Although I am fairly certain Dorsey goes DL. Metcalf would be hard to turn down if he is there.
Metcalf might be the biggest freak at WR since Josh Gordon. He's taller, longer, stronger and faster than Julio. I think he just ran his way into being a top 5 pick. But yeah, I was certainly wrong about his speed. I thought he would be around a 4.4-4.5, but nah. I think the comp for Josh Gordon is spot on the nose. Physically dominant, but he might be in Ferrari shape too much and not football shape.
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The ghost of Al Davis is going to inhabit Mark Davis’ body and draft this player.
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DK caught my eye the first time I saw him.
When he hits about his third stride he just takes off.
The other thing you see on his game tape is he catches the ball well.
But this draft is heavy with dominant big men. So who knows where he ends up going?
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If Metcalf goes top ten, someone really good drops to us. If he lasts until 17 somehow, its probable (imo) that we take him. Either way, win-win.
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If Metcalf goes top ten, someone really good drops to us. If he lasts until 17 somehow, its probable (imo) that we take him. Either way, win-win. That was the same thought I had. I hope he does go upper half of the first. Same reason I was happy Kyler Murray announced he was entering the draft and was projected top 10.
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I see I am late to the party on Metcalf ..... I just saw this headline on NFL and have to say ..... WOW
""At 6-foot-3 and 228 pounds, Ole Miss' receiver D.K. Metcalf jumped higher than Julio Jones did at combine and outdid Khalil Mack on the bench press -- all while running as fast as Brandin Cooks.""
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he'll be long gone before 17
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he'll be long gone before 17 Agreed. He has moved into the top 10.
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He's am amazing physical specimen. It seems as though there's nothing he can't do .... but I still worry about the injuries, especially as tightly wound as his body is.
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Flash (Pun intended). But is there DASH?
Can the dude catch? Can he cut his routes?
I missed him today. Watched AJ Brown and Campbell.
2 potential STUDS without the height. Brown has silky soft hands.
CAN METCALF CATCH? One particular person thinks he's BUST.
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Before the eye popping performance at the Combine and the viral pictures.
I only saw him playing football.
It was clear nobody could catch him from behind.
What was impressive was how he used his length. And the way he caught the ball.
He presents problems because he has that ability to shield guys. Once he gets leverage; it is over. He is not the guy a db is going to close on. You can't jam him at the line. Way to strong. He is a tough assignment for any db.
He has that length and the ability to out jump and post up.
He will be a big add for some team.
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Can he run routes? If can't run routes now, will he be able to run them in the future?
(I am asking as a person who has not seen him play much).
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The only guy I have set the DVR for at a combine, and he didnt disappoint. Hakeem Bulter and N’Keal Harry also had good days, as did all the OSU WR’s.
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Route running from a college sophmore is hard to judge. He does what they tell him.
The pro game is much more refined.
He will learn. Has a good reputation. Has people to draw upon. Family.
He will be a good player.
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Can he run routes? If can't run routes now, will he be able to run them in the future?
(I am asking as a person who has not seen him play much).
He can run a cross, a post, a slant, a speed out, corner route and a go route at an NFL level imo. Everything else will need to be developed, if it can be. That cone drill and shuttle honestly is a major turn off for me. That's not to say he won't be able to beat cornerbacks, I think he'll take anyone on any of those routes, but I do question his ability to work inside and on comeback routes. That said, there have been a lot of good WRs who primarily win on the outside. Dez Bryant quickly comes to mind.
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Good question. I haven't seen enough of him to comment for sure, but his 3-cone and shuttle scores were poor. That tells me he isn't getting out of breaks very well and that he isn't changing directions quickly enough. That can limit what a WR can do.
The commentators at the draft talked about the top WRs in the NFL and their 40 times. Most were in the 4.5 to 4.6 range and that the speedsters don't produce as well in the NFL. Look at Ross for the Bengals. He blew up the Combine a couple of years ago and has done next to nothing in the pros. I heard the Bengals are looking to trade him.
I think quickness in and out of breaks is underrated. It creates separation and it's hard to defend if you have a qb who gets rid of the ball on time.
I'm kinda hoping that Metcalf will go before the Browns pick. He's a freak, but I don't know if he is going to produce anywhere close to what his measurables are suggesting.
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I agree and think that "quicks" and the ability to change direction is the key to separation and I'd take that over a pure speedster. I do think there is more to it than that though - and Josh Gordon may be a good example. Does anyone have Gordon's shuttle times? I googled and came up blank ... but I would not expect him or say Terrell Owens to have great cone or shuttle times ... but they both had an innate knack for getting open using their body ... they both are/were great receivers without needing or being able to run all routes.
I think if you have Metcalf on your team - you might not use the entire route tree but he's got enough freakish ability that he can still excel for the right team and QB. I like his ability as a WR more than say the diminutive but equally blazing fast Ross (whom I sue would also have much better shuttle/cone times). I don't want Metcalf with the #17 pick - but I believe with the accuracy Baker has shown that would be a significant plus and we'd find a way to be successful with him.
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I don't place much significance on combine drills.
They can show some things but body type and size can influence results on some drills.
A 5'11" 190 lb receiver should out perform a guy 6'4" 225 lb in the 3 cone drill.
Obviously the drills are designed to test athleticism. They can show some things but it is not football.
I really miss the Draft Breakdown site. I don't have the ability to splice and capture from game film just the plays of a single player.
That site was super helpful. Highlight reels are ok but they are "highlights". I want to see bad plays. I want to see plays were they are "helpful" not primary.
How do they block downfield. I mean watch Landry block downfield. He will take on anybody.
How do they get off on press when the pass is not to them.
Dorsey and Freddie are all over Njoku about getting better at blocking.
If I can watch game film on about five games. See isolation on a player. It tells me what I need to know. No clock. Not shorts and t-shirts; football uniform. Playing against guys trying to stop you or disrupt you.
Combine results get forgotten like Spring exhibition baseball games.
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If I can watch game film on about five games. See isolation on a player. It tells me what I need to know. No clock. Not shorts and t-shirts; football uniform. Playing against guys trying to stop you or disrupt you.
Yesterday, after reading Ver's comments about Rennel Wren, I googled Wren, then clicked on videos. I got a list of cutups of Wren in isolation posted on YouTube by 'Caddy to the Lama.' There were several games to choose from. Here is the link to his YouTube channel. I hope that helps you. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_TZk1VH5YZ1lb5Tn3Y6kjw/playlists
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I just don't see him being there at 17...
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