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He does that fairly often. But he always has an excuse for it.

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I'm trying to go bulimic to get my thumb ring size down. I like a lot of posts on this forum trying to hit the index button frown

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Owner is a Laker fan apparently.

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The crazy thing is that there were multiple reports that he would be fired if he did trade AD to the Lakers.

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg


Wow.


There was nothing that Demps had done in the past to indicate he should handle this trade in the first place. He’s been horrible. Somehow, I think it was the owner, he didn’t get hoodwinked into trading Davis at the deadline. Someone more capable will now be able to make the trade when all teams are able to trade for the player.

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There was nothing that Demps had done in the past to indicate he should handle this trade in the first place. He’s been horrible. Somehow, I think it was the owner, he didn’t get hoodwinked into trading Davis at the deadline. Someone more capable will now be able to make the trade when all teams are able to trade for the player.


See, I don't get that logic though. I've heard people say the bidding will go up when the Celts can get involved, but AD's dad said he told his son to not sign an extension with Boston and AD himself didn't list them on his list of teams he would sign an extension. So, why would Boston trade for a 1-year rental when the bidding would only go up?

Also, I think AD's value has gone down. Meaning, had he been traded last week, there were 1.4 seasons of AD coming in the trade. That's two postseason runs with AD. With the trade deadline passed, it's only one season with the one postseason run. That's less "AD" you're trading for, unless you're one of the extension teams he's listed.

Plus, the closer the team gets to next years trade deadline, the less the Pelicans have the leverage, which they barely have any really. Everyone in the league knows he's not long in that city and if they just wait, they can sign him as a free agent.

IMO, Dell needed to get a deal done and just move on. The situation the AD, the league and the Pelicans are in is just a mess. Do they play him and risk injury? Do they make up a fake injury and sit him?

I think Kuzma is a star, not a franchise leader, but the dude is very good. Unfortunately, there wasn't much else the Lakers had that the Pelicans wanted.


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The Lakers deal will be the same in the off-season. The Celtics think if they include Tatum they will get Davis and that if they get Davis, Kylie re-signs. Also, you know who has the #1 pick in the off-season, if it’s the Knicks then you get Zion.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
The Lakers deal will be the same in the off-season. The Celtics think if they include Tatum they will get Davis and that if they get Davis, Kylie re-signs. Also, you know who has the #1 pick in the off-season, if it’s the Knicks then you get Zion.


Seems like a risk by the Celts to give up Tatum for a 1-year rental, assuming AD would refuse to sign there.

Yes, if the Knicks were to get the #1 pick, Zion could go to the Pelicans, but wouldn't they might want to keep Zion as much as trading for AD? Sure, AD is a "proven commodity", but he's also only won one postseason series ever and tends to get injured a lot (he's only played over 70 games in a season twice in 7 years - I'm adding in this season too).


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Zion versus Davis is a real question, although I’d take Davis without hesitation. What if getting AD means you can get KD though?

The Celtics have been all in on Davis for years. All these assets they’ve collected have been for him. I think they think if they get Davis in the building, he will stay (especially if Kyrie is around).

Either way, the Lakers package isn’t going anywhere and it was always going to be there in the off-season. If they want Davis and another max free agent they have to trade for him.

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I think I like the 3-pt shooting contest more than the dunk contest anymore. Seems more exciting. Good job by the ex-Cav, Joe Harris, to win it.

I will say that the Superman dunk by the dude from OKC and the dunk by Smith Jr w/the rapper were both impressive. I absolutely loved the Superman dunk. It was spectacular and funny.

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No NBA player wants to play in Boston tho

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I love music and I think I am very open-minded. I have been told by many people that I have an eclectic taste in music, but man........I just have a hard time appreciating the rap stuff they are playing at the NBA All Star game.

No rhythm, no real melody, harmony is lacking, poor form and no timbre. I get that it's popular, but man, that crap is bad.

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You're not alone. J Cole is garbage.

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It's all very subjective. What irks me is that I was really trying to like it, but man........

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Like dawg..........what happened to make songs like these go away:





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It's all very subjective. What irks me is that I was really trying to like it, but man........


Nothing is worse than a commercially successful woke rapper. I've only liked two of his verses out of all of his music. His feature on 21's album is very good though.

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Can my man TT stop smashing chicks his family members hang out with? lol good lord.


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Can my man TT stop smashing chicks his family members hang out with? lol good lord.


The Kardashian curse is broken in Cleveland.

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yeah normally winning is great, but right now the wins are meaningless and they better make sure they get one of the worst 3 records..if not they are even worse of a staff than most give them credit for


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Organizations may want to lose out, but coaches, whose futures depend upon winning, want to win. So do players, who want to look good for their own team, or maybe for another team.


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Yeah its almost 100% Drew won't be back next year anyways. back on track last night


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Maybe I'm beating a dead horse with this statement, but Lebron made a bad decision by leaving for the Lakers. Sure, his 18-game injury is a big factor in their current 11 seed, but going to a terrible team is the biggest factor in my opinion. I know it was more of a geographic marketing decision, to be close to LA to build his brand and possibly act more. However, had he made a basketball decision, he'd be playing in Philly or Houston, and they'd be comfortably in the playoffs (if I were Lebron, I would have stayed OR signed in Philly).

I'm not making a case that he should have stayed in Cleveland, because we could be fighting for a 5-7 seed, but it's more about how there were better basketball locations available and he chose the worst team because it was "The Lakers". It's his own fault. And when they miss the playoffs, that's going to hurt his legacy, since he thinks he's the GOAT.

I'm not typing this with anger, envy, pity or happiness. We have our title and Lebron was allowed to move on, I'm good. IMO, he made a bad decision. Maybe they trade for AD in the offseason and KD + Kyrie sign as free agents (unlikely), but at least right now, the future doesn't look good for the Lakers.


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Yeah thats the hypocrisy of lebron, says one thing means another. Everyone knows he didn't join LA to win a ring, thats never happening in the west for him...ever. It was all a personal decision to be visible in that market and have more opportunities to produce and do things outside of bball. But now he's whining because the Lakers are still the lakers and he can't pull them through.. Alot less talent on that team than we had. If he wanted to win he should ahve stayed in the east and take your chances in June. Lebron is pretty much done winning anything. No superstar is going to play with him, especially a young hungry one..Its been his issue his whole career. I'm not happy or upset, it just is what it is. I just wished he would have stayed home and retired a cav like he said he was going to when he signed the second time


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Pretty much said everything you said the day he left. It was a dumb, non-basketball decision. Even if they were to get another superstar there, it would require them to gut most of their team in the process (provided some other team doesn't just "gift" them a star).

I also am not typing in anger or envy. I really wanted what was best for him basketball-wise. I knew LA wasn't it. I can just see their fans turning on him real soon, because Kobe "would have taken this team to the Playoffs". I probably would have cheered for him had he gone to Philly or San Antonio. It was like seeing your best friend leave his sweet fiancee for a gold-digging witch.

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I also am not typing in anger or envy.


Right.

Anyway......

The move to LA was much bigger than basketball. LeBron's influence includes much more than winning basketball games. LA gives him the environment to succeed on his many endeavors. It's bigger than basketball and I respect that. This man is making a difference in the world and he is doing it the right way.

As far as hoops go, this is one chapter in a long book. We'll see what Magic will be able to do in the off-season.

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Originally Posted By: ExclDawg
Pretty much said everything you said the day he left. It was a dumb, non-basketball decision. Even if they were to get another superstar there, it would require them to gut most of their team in the process (provided some other team doesn't just "gift" them a star).

I also am not typing in anger or envy. I really wanted what was best for him basketball-wise. I knew LA wasn't it. I can just see their fans turning on him real soon, because Kobe "would have taken this team to the Playoffs". I probably would have cheered for him had he gone to Philly or San Antonio. It was like seeing your best friend leave his sweet fiancee for a gold-digging witch.


don't have to dig too far to see the fans have already turned on him. From questioning coaching, players desire/skill. To late night studio sessions causing him to miss games. They expected alot more when they signed LJ, they thought for sure they'd be atleast in the playoffs...problem is, they aren't very good and the west is. I don't think Magic is a very good FO guy. Sure he's charismatic and a people guy but I'm not sure he's cut out for the gig. His only chance really is to go hard and overpay for a some FA this offseason and try to move some of this youth into vets who know how to play. They dont have time to wait for development. Lonzo ball should be in the dleague. Kuzma and Ingram are decent but streaky and still don't know how to play as a team well yet. I get why lebron wanted to be in that market. Yeah I'm a little upset he left after saying he would retire here. But I get it. He's a big time player and deserves to be in a huge market. But giving them 4 years off the bat all the while keep Cavs hostage with this one year deals is a bit of karma i guess.


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j/c:

I want to get back to the problem of tanking. I think it's bad for the game. I know the NBA recognizes this and that is why they adjusted the lottery this year. However, it's obviously not enough.

I thought of having the playoff teams keeping their regular slotting, while the lottery teams would draft in reverse order which would result in the team w/the best record of the lottery teams drafting first, the next best record drafting second, etc, etc. I think it was Excel who mentioned this idea had already been considered and they pointed out [Cuban] that teams w/the worst records among playoff teams would "tank" at the end of the season to "not" make the playoffs and get a top pick. While I think this method is better than the current system, I get that that was a very good point and would certain occur.

I was working out this morning and had a sports show on and they were discussing the problems that tanking causes for professional sports. One guy mentioned that there was something called a "Wheel" for the NBA. The wheel would have teams rotating picks over the course of many years and the teams would know exactly where they are picking each year, which should result in teams trying to win instead of tanking. I like this idea. Here is an article about it if you are interested.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-nb...o-to-the-wheel/

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I love that people are still discovering The Wheel. It’s fun, but the teams would never go for it (for the reasons spelled out in the article you posted).

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All plans have some inherent flaws.

Serious question: Are you comfortable w/a system that promotes tanking?

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All plans have some inherent flaws.

Serious question: Are you comfortable w/a system that promotes tanking?


I don’t really care either way. Teams will always find ways whatever system is in place. If it were up to me there would be no draft at all and players would just be available on the open market.

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I know female announcers are often mocked and degraded, but Dorris Burke, who is a color commentator for ESPN's NBA games is outstanding. She is extremely knowledgeable, is very personable, and doesn't have an irritating squeaky voice.

She reminds me of Hubie Brown when he was younger. Both are two of the more intelligent BB people around.

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Dorris Burke is the best. To be blunt, if not obnoxious, I could name about twenty male commentators who "can't carry her jock".

Her interview with LeBron after we won the finals is burned into my memory. Her tone, her passion, her immediate reaction to how special and spectacular "the moment" was. She fought back tears because she knew what it meant to LBJ and the city of Cleveland.


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The mutual respect between her and Lebron was evident. Most female reporters seem to be out there as eye candy with scripted, cliche questions. Doris has honed her craft.


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Random basketball thoughts on a Sunday morning:

- The Cavs are a 10-11 seed with a healthy Kevin. That’s still not good, but it’s something.
- The Lakers hit rock bottom last night. Holy Toledo that’s embarrassing. Again, we all agree he went to LA for marketing reasons and everyone knew this season would be rough, but who had missing the playoffs, infighting and Luke getting fired (which I’m still betting he gets the ace soon).
- The eastern conference playoffs should be a fun watch.
- Toronto and Milwaukee are good. The Bucks are a great watch. Brogdon May finish as a 50-40-90 guy.
- As bad as Boston is right now, they’ll sweep Philly in the first round (assuming the seeding stays the same).
- How are the Pacers still winning without Victor? Most teams would crash and burn after that but they keep on chugging. Maybe it proves why we needed 7 games to beat them last year, luckily I might add.
- Luka is going to be a star. Trae Young is playing well too, which I thought he’d struggle more.


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Good post. I have some similar thoughts:

--I think the East might be stronger at the top than the West.

--I think Kyrie, as great as he is, has hurt Boston. He dominates the ball too much and they aren't playing team ball.

--Philly added a lot through the course of the year. Harris is a huge acquisition for them.

--The Bucks are long and athletic. And The Freak might be overtaking LeBron as the best in the league. That's a stretch, but it's not impossible.

--Toronto is similar. A lot of long, athletic guys. Kawhi gives them a true superstar and Gasol should help in the playoffs. I really like that Pablo dude.

--Nate McMillian deserves coach of the year.

--Luka kinda reminds me of Larry Bird. Not as tough, but he is very talented and has the swag.

--I like some of the young dudes on Sacremento's team. Fox, Bagley, and Heild are really good building pieces.

--I wish the NBA would do something about tanking. It's bad for the sport.

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