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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Yeah, let's give corporations who already don't pay any income taxes 3 billion more in tax abatements.


and 300 mil in cash.

The funny thing is, they might have a point if it was happening in a place with a sub 10k population community. Instead they're talking about the most populous city and metro area in America.

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25.000 job at 150.000 per year ,and you are using a dumb lib talking point of corp. welfare cause your guys effed this economic boom up for NYC. I guess with their sickening infanticide laws,and their hatred of successful people is coming back to bite you guys sooner than I thought

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg

10. I made well over a grand today due to this deal. That's not a point, I just wanted to brag smile


rofl Classic! and you know it cut to the quick too. wink

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I didn't vote for anyone in New York. So they're not "my guys".

It's funny that you think corporations who make billions in profits yet pay nothing in taxes, should also be given three billion in tax breaks to bring jobs to an area and have communities and states bid against each other to do this.

Hatred of successful people? No, but they should be required to pay their fair share just like everyone else.

But when you fly into a rant like you just did, common sense escapes you.


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She's happy that amazon decided to not locate there, because instead of giving amazon some $3 billion in tax abatement, the city and state can use that $3 billion to do other stuff.


She never said that. I know that you hate AOC, but why lie?


By the way, I don't hate her. I think her big, HUGE step from being a waitress to being in congress went to her head. She's a little too self important now.

Hey, she's getting her 15 minutes, and she's all over the news. She's relishing her new found fame. Good for her. I have a hunch it will change. She is, isn't she, one of the people that decried gov't. workers not getting paid during the shut down.........yet, she kept cashing her checks. Do I have that right?


And going from Reality TV Dumbass to Potus Dumbass wasn't too big of a step for Trump? LMAO@U

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Not surprised CHS is all in for AOC.

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I actually dislike her foreign politics, but she's OK for a politician. I wish she'd do a lot of things a lot differently.

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I actually dislike her foreign politics, but she's OK for a politician. I wish she'd do a lot of things a lot differently.


Yes but unless you hate her, you must be:

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Not surprised CHS is all in for AOC.


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I agree with you on the corp. welfare and they should pay there fare share but its the price that is paid to bring to bring economic help to certain areas that need an economic boost and to help the ratings of the politicians in power left or right.

Sorry that you feel insulted with the "my guys" and it was not intended that way , my bad.

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I actually dislike her foreign politics, but she's OK for a politician. I wish she'd do a lot of things a lot differently.


Yes but unless you hate her, you must be:

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Not surprised CHS is all in for AOC.


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Yeah, this was a problem I had during the Obama administration, that even though I really disliked him, I just had to defend from the asinine stuff coming from Cons on this board.

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That's how I got labeled a socialist. But I'm more socialist than troglodyte so I rolled with it. thumbsup

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That's how I got labeled a socialist. But I'm more socialist than troglodyte so I rolled with it. thumbsup


Yep, and you're certainly not a socialist. Although, you are a bit more left now than you were a few years ago, so you have my respect.

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I agree with you on the corp. welfare and they should pay there fare share but its the price that is paid to bring to bring economic help to certain areas that need an economic boost and to help the ratings of the politicians in power left or right.


Yet if it were illegal to give these huge tax breaks to businesses worth a certain amount, we wouldn't be in this situation. I mean on some level it's almost legal extortion. I see what you're saying but places can gain an advantage by the state, local and city tax structure they have to attract business. I'm not against it for small businesses who are trying to get off the ground. They deserve our support.

Here in Tennessee they give high school graduates two free years of community college to develop an educated work force to attract business.

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Sorry that you feel insulted with the "my guys" and it was not intended that way , my bad.


Thanks. I'm just a person who feels the wealthiest in our nation should be held to the same standard as a working person is. That the more you make shouldn't mean the more your protected and shielded from paying your part. All that is accomplished by that is that local schools, roads and infrastructure suffer. The ability to hire more police officers, firefighters and pay for libraries diminish while lining the pockets of big business.

I don't see that as either a rational or logical conclusion to attaining jobs.


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Your points are very thoughtful and I cant disagree with any of them maybe if they would put it to a vote on the next municipal election in the municipality in question it may not be a perfect solution but its a start.
At least we be given a chance to state our opinion by ballot and not standing idly by and getting it forced upon us.

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Not sure what is funnier....her analogy or the person she is replying to typing "costumer".


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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez slammed over anti-Amazon push in New York City billboard: 'Thanks for nothing'

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez slammed over anti-Amazon push in New York City billboard: 'Thanks for nothing'


Poor snowflakes are upset again. Freedom of speech bro. it’s a good thing we still have that to shut up the sheep every now and then right?

As if AOC had anything to do with Amazon’s decision.


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Look at how well the Foxconn deal is doing in Minnesota. Trump called it the 8th wonder of the world. I'll post an article when I get a moment later today.

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez slammed over anti-Amazon push in New York City billboard: 'Thanks for nothing'





lmao @ ThanksAOC.com

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Alexandria Occasional Cortex: “If we were willing to give away $3 billion for this deal, we could invest those $3 billion in our district ourselves, if we wanted to. We could hire out more teachers. We can fix our subways. We can put a lot of people to work for that money, if we wanted to."

Apparently, the socialist with her economics degree thinks tax break money exists in some bank.

Not sure what is funnier...AOC rejoicing in stupidity or seeing De Blasio in his interview on Meet the Press.

Mayor De Blasio: "That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works."


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AOC's constituents are vicious.

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AOC has locked it up for Trump in 2020. Thanks AOC, pour me another drink!

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AOC has locked it up for Trump in 2020. Thanks AOC, pour me another drink!


I don't know. I don't think any of the socialists will lock up Trump, I think they'd rather focus on real issues instead of egoistical traitors.

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AOC has locked it up for Trump in 2020. Thanks AOC, pour me another drink!


I don't know. I don't think any of the socialists will lock up Trump, I think they'd rather focus on real issues instead of egoistical traitors.


They should focus on Trump and not traitors like other socialists.

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Salaries in Ocasio-Cortez’s office top out at $80,000, Trent said. That’s well below the median pay for Hill chiefs of staff at $154,634, according to the Legistorm analysis. And it’s a fraction of what experienced staffers could make in other jobs in Washington.

Trent acknowledged that some people would have to take pay cuts to work in the office. He said that was a trade-off that employees had been willing to make: “I don’t think you always put the burden on the bottom.”


I haven't found anything that says AOC is taking a pay cut in order to help pay her staff more. All the people pushing socialism expect everyone else to pay for it and are not willing to make any sacrifices themselves.


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Aren't you someone who doesn't even support a living wage?


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Salaries in Ocasio-Cortez’s office top out at $80,000, Trent said. That’s well below the median pay for Hill chiefs of staff at $154,634, according to the Legistorm analysis. And it’s a fraction of what experienced staffers could make in other jobs in Washington.

Trent acknowledged that some people would have to take pay cuts to work in the office. He said that was a trade-off that employees had been willing to make: “I don’t think you always put the burden on the bottom.”


I haven't found anything that says AOC is taking a pay cut in order to help pay her staff more. All the people pushing socialism expect everyone else to pay for it and are not willing to make any sacrifices themselves.


Did you know that the federal government has a budget for each Congressional offices that do not include salary for said congressperson?

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All the people pushing socialism expect everyone else to pay for it and are not willing to make any sacrifices themselves.


Says the guy who wants to make sure those socialist don't cost him anything. LMAO

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This women is an imbecile, her policies are ridiculous and unattainable, and she is nothing but a walking cliche'

I wonder how long it will be before she becomes a millionaire from the green lobbyist pocketbooks.

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This women is an imbecile, her policies are ridiculous and unattainable, and she is nothing but a walking cliche'

I wonder how long it will be before she becomes a millionaire from the green lobbyist pocketbooks.



This is from the co-founder of Greenpeace, Patrick Moore, and saying what most are thinking:


Patrick Moore
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Replying to @AOC

Pompous little twit. You don’t have a plan to grow food for 8 billion people without fossil fuels, or get the food into the cities. Horses? If fossil fuels were banned every tree in the world would be cut down for fuel for cooking and heating. You would bring about mass death.

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I've learned the harder they attack something the more they fear it. I mean look at Trump. He fears everything.


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Ocasio-Cortez And Her Chief Of Staff ‘Could Be Facing Jail Time’ If Their Control Over PAC Was Intentionally Hidden, Former FEC Commissioner Says


03/04/2019 | Investigative Group


Andrew Kerr | Investigative Reporter

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and a top aide appear to control an outside PAC credited with being the central force behind her June 2018 primary victory.
One former Federal Election Commission member thinks there would be a “serious investigation” if a complaint were filed, noting that the probe could potentially result in civil penalties or even jail time for Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff.
A second former commissioner said there were possibly “multiple violations of federal campaign finance law.”
Justice Democrats ran campaigns for Ocasio-Cortez and 11 other Democrats, but the New York Democrat was the only one to win her general election.

Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff Saikat Chakrabarti obtained majority control of Justice Democrats PAC in December 2017, according to archived copies of the group’s website, and the two appear to retain their control of the group, according to corporate filings obtained by The Daily Caller News Foundation. If the Federal Election Commission (FEC) finds that the New York Democrat’s campaign operated in affiliation with the PAC, which had raised more than $1.8 million before her June 2018 primary, it would open them up to “massive reporting violations, probably at least some illegal contribution violations exceeding the lawful limits,” former FEC commissioner Brad Smith said.

Ocasio-Cortez never disclosed to the FEC that she and Chakrabarti, who served as her campaign chair, controlled the PAC while it was simultaneously supporting her primary campaign, and former FEC commissioners say the arrangement could lead to multiple campaign finance violations. The group backed 12 Democrats during the 2018 midterms, but Ocasio-Cortez was the only one of those to win her general election.

“If the facts as alleged are true, and a candidate had control over a PAC that was working to get that candidate elected, then that candidate is potentially in very big trouble and may have engaged in multiple violations of federal campaign finance law, including receiving excessive contributions,” former Republican FEC commissioner Hans von Spakovsky told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

And fellow former FEC commissioner Brad Smith told TheDCNF that if “a complaint were filed, I would think it would trigger a serious investigation.” He also noted that such a probe could potentially result in jail time for Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff, Chakrabarti.

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Ocasio-Cortez And Her Chief Of Staff ‘Could Be Facing Jail Time’ If Their Control Over PAC Was Intentionally Hidden, Former FEC Commissioner Says


03/04/2019 | Investigative Group


Andrew Kerr | Investigative Reporter

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and a top aide appear to control an outside PAC credited with being the central force behind her June 2018 primary victory.
One former Federal Election Commission member thinks there would be a “serious investigation” if a complaint were filed, noting that the probe could potentially result in civil penalties or even jail time for Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff.
A second former commissioner said there were possibly “multiple violations of federal campaign finance law.”
Justice Democrats ran campaigns for Ocasio-Cortez and 11 other Democrats, but the New York Democrat was the only one to win her general election.

Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff Saikat Chakrabarti obtained majority control of Justice Democrats PAC in December 2017, according to archived copies of the group’s website, and the two appear to retain their control of the group, according to corporate filings obtained by The Daily Caller News Foundation. If the Federal Election Commission (FEC) finds that the New York Democrat’s campaign operated in affiliation with the PAC, which had raised more than $1.8 million before her June 2018 primary, it would open them up to “massive reporting violations, probably at least some illegal contribution violations exceeding the lawful limits,” former FEC commissioner Brad Smith said.

Ocasio-Cortez never disclosed to the FEC that she and Chakrabarti, who served as her campaign chair, controlled the PAC while it was simultaneously supporting her primary campaign, and former FEC commissioners say the arrangement could lead to multiple campaign finance violations. The group backed 12 Democrats during the 2018 midterms, but Ocasio-Cortez was the only one of those to win her general election.

“If the facts as alleged are true, and a candidate had control over a PAC that was working to get that candidate elected, then that candidate is potentially in very big trouble and may have engaged in multiple violations of federal campaign finance law, including receiving excessive contributions,” former Republican FEC commissioner Hans von Spakovsky told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

And fellow former FEC commissioner Brad Smith told TheDCNF that if “a complaint were filed, I would think it would trigger a serious investigation.” He also noted that such a probe could potentially result in jail time for Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff, Chakrabarti.


So file the complaint and let's play it out. I have a feeling it wouldn't fair well.

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Ocasio-Cortez And Her Chief Of Staff ‘Could Be Facing Jail Time’ If Their Control Over PAC Was Intentionally Hidden, Former FEC Commissioner Says


03/04/2019 | Investigative Group


Andrew Kerr | Investigative Reporter

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and a top aide appear to control an outside PAC credited with being the central force behind her June 2018 primary victory.
One former Federal Election Commission member thinks there would be a “serious investigation” if a complaint were filed, noting that the probe could potentially result in civil penalties or even jail time for Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff.
A second former commissioner said there were possibly “multiple violations of federal campaign finance law.”
Justice Democrats ran campaigns for Ocasio-Cortez and 11 other Democrats, but the New York Democrat was the only one to win her general election.

Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff Saikat Chakrabarti obtained majority control of Justice Democrats PAC in December 2017, according to archived copies of the group’s website, and the two appear to retain their control of the group, according to corporate filings obtained by The Daily Caller News Foundation. If the Federal Election Commission (FEC) finds that the New York Democrat’s campaign operated in affiliation with the PAC, which had raised more than $1.8 million before her June 2018 primary, it would open them up to “massive reporting violations, probably at least some illegal contribution violations exceeding the lawful limits,” former FEC commissioner Brad Smith said.

Ocasio-Cortez never disclosed to the FEC that she and Chakrabarti, who served as her campaign chair, controlled the PAC while it was simultaneously supporting her primary campaign, and former FEC commissioners say the arrangement could lead to multiple campaign finance violations. The group backed 12 Democrats during the 2018 midterms, but Ocasio-Cortez was the only one of those to win her general election.

“If the facts as alleged are true, and a candidate had control over a PAC that was working to get that candidate elected, then that candidate is potentially in very big trouble and may have engaged in multiple violations of federal campaign finance law, including receiving excessive contributions,” former Republican FEC commissioner Hans von Spakovsky told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

And fellow former FEC commissioner Brad Smith told TheDCNF that if “a complaint were filed, I would think it would trigger a serious investigation.” He also noted that such a probe could potentially result in jail time for Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff, Chakrabarti.


You post this because presumably you think it is significant. And it may be - I am not saying one way or another.

However - there is probable cause, and testimony under oath and multiple convictions to support the allegations that Trump committed some of the same offenses, many worse - both before he ran for POTUS, during his campaign AND while in office ... and yet you choose to be blind to all of that.

I find that odd at best - hypocritical or sycophantic at worst.


The more things change the more they stay the same.
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