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This country wasn't ready for a [gasp] Black man, either... right up until the day they elected one.


just sayin'-

We were much closer to that outcome than that of gay President.
I'd even say we will see a woman President before we see a gay man President.

Of course, as we have recently seen, the opponents have a large affect on the sway of voters, probably more so than the candidate themselves.

We should probably change the ballot to have X's put next to names you DO NOT want elected, rather than selecting who you do. Probably be less arguing when you say "Who did you vote against", rather than "Who did you vote for"

While I don't think you intended it this way, that's a very loaded question. The term moderate has very differing meanings depending on who you ask. I also don't think we'll see anything moderate about whomever the Democrats nominate.

Let's look what happened in 2016 with the GOP when they had such a crowded field. There were some moderate candidates among that field that were established members of the GOP. What happened is that the majority of GOP votes were split among those qualified candidates and the rest went to the most vile, extreme candidate in the field.

I expect the exact same thing from the Democrats. They will refuse to recognize that the 2016 election was lost by ignoring the mid west voters and they lost the election by just over 77,000 votes.

Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan were lost by a total vote count of 77,744 votes. Or. 0.057% of the vote in those combined states.

I don't expect them to get their heads out of their collective asses to understand that you can't convince the people you need to win the presidency by telling them you need to overhaul everything at once that causes a quick, extreme change in our entire system.

Moderate, as I said, varies in its meaning from person to person. But I believe you can convince people of national healthcare if they're given the option of choosing private healthcare too if they wish.

I believe most Americans can see how far backwards those on the lower income level have fallen. I mean if you just take a simple look at the buying power of minimum wage in the 1970's to today, the difference is monumental. So I think phasing in a living wage is something you can sell to most voters. Just being able to break even on a workers buying power over a period of time isn't what I see as some huge liberal idea.

But I think we'll see an ultra liberal with ideas you simply can't sell to the average American emerge from the crowd. It seems like politics has become an all or nothing sum with both sides using it as a tool to tear apart our country.