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Let's not even get into what we know about his lies about rumors about if he didn't get the Buffalo Bills, the new owner would move them to Toronto... He started that rumor in order to turn public favor his way.

Lying sack

Pit, I'm fully aware that I use extreme hyperbole on the regular in here. It's the only way to get the point across to those that refuse to listen. For example, I don't think Trump is a Nazi. But I do think he is acting like or leaning toward Authoritarian Fascism. Another example is that I like to lump all Republicans into a group I usually call GOPers. I don't for a minute think that every conservative on this board is as extreme as 40 in their unyielding support for all things Trump. But when the GOP whips them up with things like "Socialism Bad!", the majority parrots it. So I treat them all like radicals. The real radicals just call me a libtard, or some other crap and move on. But the few toward the middle, the ones still capable of rational free thinking, some of them might actually be open to a message like you just posted if the alternative is to be considered a Trump radical extremist.

That said, I don't think the things I say on here are anywhere near the kind of crap you will see coming during the campaign of 2020. I can understand the people in the middle voting Trump the first time in 2016. Those voters who just wanted things to change or really thought Trump would do things for them did what they thought was best. But that can not be an excuse after 2020 if they re-elect Trump. Doing that makes them guilty by association of all his bad behavior and crimes imho. I will feel this way about them because they know what kind of scum he is and still voted for him again. I will have nothing for those people but disgust and anger.

It's not just mergers. He's has attacked or targeted others that don't do what he thinks they should too. He's done it several times. He rages against illegals taking jobs too, all the while employing many of them.

BpG still hasn't answered which president blocked any mergers, let alone did it behind the scenes? Many have said they weren't in favor of a merger, but to my knowledge, none have tried to block any. It's always up to the DOJ and FTC.

Trump doesn't want to be President, he wants to be absolute ruler of America, like a King. We already fought a war get rid of that kind thing.

Trust me....you are not getting your point across when you use hyperbole.

You're right and I do not disagree that he would love to run this country as the "What I say goes" business owner. I was just pointing out that this is not a new precedent from administrations to block mergers.

Mergers have to be reviewed and approved by government (over $90M). So yes some mergers get reviewed and blocked.

Are you suggesting other Presidents have had an active role in blocking mergers purely to benefit themselves?

B, I'm very glad you at least see that side of Trump. Sometimes, it's hard to get that point across yet all you really have to do is listen and watch what he does and it's pretty clear.

But still, I can't think of a time when a president came out against a merger,,,, FTC, you bet, DOJ, you bet, but a president? I just don't remember one.. Not to say there wasn't one, but I just don't remember one.

In one breath you're telling me that the government (not the president) has to review mergers but on the other you're implying Trump can willy nilly block mergers on his own....



I am suggesting that absolutely, I think Presidents have blocked and NOT blocked mergers to benefit themselves in their post office careers. It can't be proven regardless, it's my opinion. Trump is just the first one dumb enough to openly broadcast his opinions on the matter.

I said mergers are reviewed by government - because they are.

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/media-resources/mergers-and-competition/merger-review

That is not the POTUS making decisions or even providing guidance ... that's the FTC following protocol/guidelines that are set.

Trump saying he wants to make sure that a merger is blocked is abuse of power. The reason that it's important is that there is a trend of this sort of action/direction/interference with Trump ... it is systematic.

I don't know if any other POTUS has voiced a directive to the FTC to block a merger in the past ... it's possible. But if true it doesn't excuse Trump.

I said that other presidents have expressed reservations about certain mergers in the past.. I see nothing wrong with that, but again, I never heard a president trying to or saying to block any merger.

And yeah, it could be that Trump is the only one dumb enough to say it out loud..

OCD, I think each poster has their own method or style in how they choose to convey their message. IMO the more hyperbole one uses, the less their message is listened to. There are some posters who will refuse to listen to anything that does not serve their predetermined opinions no matter how that message is delivered. So in those cases the delivery of the message makes zero difference.

But there are still some posters here that are at least willing to have an open dialogue. While a consensus may not be reached between the differing opinions you at least achieve an open debate where things don't devolve into complete chaos. In today's political climate I find even that a positive thing.

I'm not one that tries to tell anyone else how to post. How they wish to deliver their opinions and the methods they use to accomplish that is up to them. I simply try and use the method that works best for me. I certainly wasn't trying to say your method, or anyone elses for that matter was any worse than mine or that I'm any better than anyone else. Sorry if you felt that was my intent.

Trump publicly weighing in for or against a merger being evaluated by the government is him trying to influence the outcome. Trump laying into NFL owners over the kneeling players was wrong too on a few levels. Trump going after Carrier Heating company to make them stay here was well received by voters, but again was interfering in free markets. Bush's and Obama's bailouts were big interference with free market; but the economy was collapsing so it became a national/worldwide emergency. Trump has not had to deal with anything like that. But if he keeps putting his tiny thumbs on the scale, he might take us down that path again.

Let's not forget Amazon.

Trump attacks Amazon for not paying enough in taxes... the right cheers "Go Trump, MAGA!!!", the left screams about the constitution...

AOC attacks Amazon for not paying enough in taxes... the right puts up billboards bashing her for costing them jobs, the left puts up counter billboards praising her for going after the evil big corporations...

Didn't you just start a thread about "Blindly Following"????

No - Trump accuses Amazon of abusing the Post Office and causing them to operate at a low margins or a loss.... the Post Office says without the Amazon business they would be screwed.

NY Times

Thanks for the link ... If I had to guess - Amazon pays the same or more tax than Trump.

You couldn't be further from the truth. Trump tries to pressure the Post Office into raising rates on Amazon to directly place a negative impact on their bottom line by improperly using the power of the presidency. He uses his power in an attempt to interfere with the free market system.

Isn't the free market something you've always upheld?