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I would be shocked if Dorsey acquired OBJ. It's not a necessary move. Plus if he doesn't draft WR in the first round, I'm not so sure he'd use the pick to trade for one...

Steelers are not trading AB within the division unless it is for a ridiculous price. Dorsey isn't giving up a king's ransom for a 31 year old WR when he could land OBJ, which would be a better option at age 26 and cost less (trade wise).

left tackle is the most overrated position in formal. It used to be extremely important when your QB is taking 5 and 7 steps back and having him ignore that end. Now, most plays are in shotguns where the QB can see the field as the play develops. He's not blind to an end now.

Gruden is such an idiot. I love it.

Getting rid of Zeitler would be a huge mistake. Our offensive line was great last year after Kitchens took over. Getting rid of good players to force unknown commodities into a starting spot isn’t wise. I will say that if Zeitler is part of a package to get a better player, I wouldn’t be as upset.

I can't say if Corbett is going to a great OG or not but I know Zeitler IS so please leave him alone ...

J/C

I don't mind moving Zietler if we know Corbett is ready. I haven't seen Corbett play at all, so its a huge ? mark for me, and I would want to at least see some him in some action before I would trade a Pro Bowl Caliber G.

J/C - I think moving Zeitler would be risky but I trust the guys in house to know what we have in Corbett. However, we would need some kinda depth. Where is Drango these days?

Maybe its Zeit for OBJ?

There are some rumors about that going on....

I would hate that trade so much... why do we keep trying to get rid of good oline while paying for bad ones? heres a shiny new WR...but you won't have time to throw to him

Lots smoke coming out of Berea from a ton of different people:

j/c...

Bring back the gieco greco imo

Just throwing it out there and I'm not sure I like it myself, but Duke and Zeitler?

Zeitler makes sense. Duke Johnson does not. Barkley is an every down back. I could see Ogbah and Schobert being involved.

I could see Zeitler and Kirksey plus a 2nd round draft choice.

I would make that trade. I get the Ogbah thing, too.

I was thinking the same as well, but then remembered that Duke can also be lined up at WR.

Being able to line up at wide receiver and being a wide receiver are two different things.

I just don't think other teams would be willing to take on Kirksey's contract.

No backis going to play every snap and get all the carries and receptions out of the backfield ... he’d have 450 - 500 touches per year if they did that ...

Just because Bark is and every down back doesn’tmean He’s going to play every down and get all the touches out of the position ... not feasible ...

Barkley had 352 touches (he was targeted 30 more times) last year as a rookie. He played 83% of the snaps. I agree that he can't take every snap, I just don't see a team valuing a backup running back very highly when the expectation is that they won't play much.

The NFL is starting to feel like the NBA.

The player movement (or discussion about player movement) is ultimately a good thing for the league on the grand scheme as it draws attention. The NFL will never go full NBA though. Elite QBs never leave the teams that drafted them in their prime, whereas the NBA's best players leave constantly.

Duke is a WR and also a RB. Between backing up Barkley, 2 back sets and just lining up at WR, he would be plenty useful to the Giants. Zeitler is the marquis player traded but Duke is a viable throw in if there are picks involved as well.

And I still don't think that I like it. I can just imagine the following scenario a week after the trade being announced...

1) Hunt's suspension announced to be 10 weeks.
2) Corbett gets hurt washing his car or something.
3) OBJ hurts his hands punching a mirror because the guy on the other end was looking at him funny.

Yeah, the part about Kirksey's contract makes sense.

I think OBJ is an elite receiver and one of the biggest difference makers in the league. I'd hate to give up Zeitler because we need a good OL for Baker, but man........acquiring OBJ would be huge for this franchise.

I also agree that Duke would be a throw-in. The Cowboys are overusing Zeke and Gurley is already suffering knee problems. While Barkley is a great back, it might be wise to give him some breaks.

I know for a fact that no one on the field takes the abuse that RBs do.

I have two minds about this.

1) An elite QB (Baker) can elevate the play of the most ordinary WR to something special. So we should be able to do well with most average+ WR.
So we can get by really well with lower talent.

2) OBJ is an elite WR and future HOFer. What happens if we pair him with Baker? OMG the world may explode!! Can we handle that rollercoaster? How do you say No?

Ok, 1 more thought for Bonus

3) Seems our front office wants to go No Holds Barred for the Superbowl and Dynasty. I'm not going to complain if this OBJ thing happens

Ok....cool. Sometimes I just read the printed words.

Training I suppose.

What if we give Zeittler and Duke, (or Kirksey, etc) and anything except our 1st round pick for OBJ?

I think I could get behind that.

I guess I'm one of the few who are okay giving up Zeitler. I think Corbett would do just fine. Especially if Kitchens continues to focus on getting the ball out of Bakers hands quickly.

Crazy times. I don't think I've felt as excited about the launch of free agency/trades since the year we brought in LeCharles Bentley.

Not sure how I feel...I like Zeitler a lot...he is huge for our line, Baker, and O...

OBJ is very talented-dont get me wrong...However he does have his blowups and is a distraction at times...I definitely don't want to give up a 1st round pick and our elite RG for him...then again, what control do we as fans really have...none lol

I don't think his blow-ups are bad. Big deal, he hit a kicking net. The horror.

I think it's all about perception. Some are not okay w/his antics while being okay w/crotch-grabbing, stare-downs, throwing the ball at a player, etc.

I don't think OBJ has ever been arrested, has he?

Football players are a different breed. Their not all going to be perfect little angels.

OBJ is a diva to be sure.

But as far as divas go, he has been tolerable for the Giants.

The only time I recall his antics being BAD was that time he repeatedly fought with the defender who was showing him up.

Sorry, I dont remember the team or player, just that OBJ was super unprofessional.

But that was the only time I recall him getting out of hand.

For your amusement ...

ODELL BECKHAM
WR, NEW YORK GIANTS

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports the Browns, 49ers, and Raiders were the teams he heard "most connected" to a possible Odell Beckham trade at the Combine last week.

La Canfora, however, adds he talked to a source in Cleveland and was told there's "nothing cooking" on the trade front for the Browns and OBJ right now. Twitter was set ablaze Wednesday afternoon with an OBJ-to-the-Browns rumor, but there doesn't appear to be a whole lot to go on with it. Antonio Brown will be the first building block to fall in the wideout market. The Raiders are the favorites there, with some even calling it a "one-team race." The Niners aren't in on Brown, but OBJ is a different story. Somehow, Beckham is the more stable personality of the two between he and Brown at the moment and more than four years younger. OBJ could command multiple first-round picks for the Giants.

RELATED: Cleveland Browns, Oakland Raiders, San Francisco 49ers
SOURCE: CBS Sports
Mar 6, 2019, 7:10 PM