Getting fired as HC from one team and then ignored by (fired) by a second team in a single season, that has to make you special in the NFL. Huey is instant future trivia.
How different does today feel versus same time as last year? Can we play tomorrow, please?
Thanks, Mr. Dorsey! Please, sir, may we have a wee bit more?
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Peppers is a former first round pick. Once you are drafted your draft status is no longer relevant
This is an important distinction for folks to remember.
We paid a 1st to acquire Peppers. However, once he was here and got on the field, he did NOT play to a level where he was still worth a 1st.
Ask yourself this: who in their right mind would have given up a 2019 1st to acquire Peppers? The correct answer is 'Nobody'. So, what do you think we *could* have gotten for him - a mid-level SS that is suspect in coverage? I'm thinking a mid-2nd at the most as his talent level will easily be had in the 2nd this April, so most likely just a 3rd was his realistic value.
That's it.... THAT is what we gave up in Peppers. So, for folks that want to say that we still gave up two firsts, you're not looking at his REAL value, at all.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
Peppers is a former first round pick. Once you are drafted your draft status is no longer relevant
This is an important distinction for folks to remember.
We paid a 1st to acquire Peppers. However, once he was here and got on the field, he did NOT play to a level where he was still worth a 1st.
Ask yourself this: who in their right mind would have given up a 2019 1st to acquire Peppers? The correct answer is 'Nobody'. So, what do you think we *could* have gotten for him - a mid-level SS that is suspect in coverage? I'm thinking a mid-2nd at the most as his talent level will easily be had in the 2nd this April, so most likely just a 3rd was his realistic value.
That's it.... THAT is what we gave up in Peppers. So, for folks that want to say that we still gave up two firsts, you're not looking at his REAL value, at all.
I like Peppers and think he will become or would have become a vvery good but not great SS for us. But I don't think his current trade value would have fetched more that a 4th or 5th tops. No way we would get a 2nd or 3rd from him with his two year history. Hue stunted his growth playing him 30 yards from the los his first season.
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Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
Letting Schwartz go never happens if u have Dorsey. He is the football guru. He tells Depo are u stupid? As I said in another post we have the best analytics department and we have the best football guys in football.
It's a combination of brilliance. People give Freddie credit for willing to hire top guys but we gotta do the same with Dorsey. Hiring wolf and Hightower and wanting to learn about what Depo does.
This is coming together because your king is not so ego driven that he can listen and learn from the knights at the table.
I just watched a clip from the Skip Bayless(sp?) show. He had Michael Rapaport(a Giants fan) on. He was screaming about how bad the trade was etc etc. At the end they asked him if he would watch the Browns. He said everyone will be watching the Browns. That is "must watch" football. Skip said he had been saying that too. This will either be epic or the biggest disaster since the Hindenburg. Can't wait to see what happens next!
Odell gets hit just a fraction of a second sooner, and this could have been the nastiest leg injury video ever.
That is the kind of play you're going to have when you make it illegal to hit a receiver above the chest. DB's are going to go low and not risk the penalty if at all possible.
The betting public is excited about the Cleveland Browns' chances to win the Super Bowl.
Entering Tuesday, the Browns were the eighth-most bet team to win the Super Bowl at DraftKings' New Jersey sportsbook. By Wednesday morning, after a flurry of interest from reports surfacing of a trade for New York Giants star receiver Odell Beckham Jr., Cleveland had attracted more bets and more money to win the Super Bowl than any other team.
The SuperBook at Westgate Las Vegas also significantly moved the Browns' Super Bowl odds, from 25-1 to 14-1. Just one season removed from going 0-16, Cleveland now has 7-1 odds to win the AFC, behind only the New England Patriots and Kansas City Chiefs at the SuperBook.
The Browns were ninth in amount wagered on the SuperBook's Super Bowl odds, significantly behind the Patriots. SuperBook vice president of risk Jeff Sherman said they had already taken multiple five-figure bets on New England to win the Super Bowl next season, the largest a $40,000 wager at 6-1 odds.
Cleveland plays at New England this season. Oddsmakers projected the point spread on that game would be anywhere from Patriots -3.5 to -4.5, potentially a little higher.
The addition of Beckham to the Browns' upgraded roster is worth ".5 to 1 point" to the team's power rating, in line with other elite players like Julio Jones and Antonio Brown, according to Sherman. Cleveland also is expected to add defensive tackle Sheldon Richardson and defensive end Olivier Vernon this offseason.
"[The Browns] are going to be a sizable favorite to win the AFC North and make the playoffs," Sherman said. "That's the NFL for you. Things change quickly."
New Jersey online sportsbook PointsBet was one of the few sportsbooks that elected not to change the Browns' odds to win the Super Bowl, keeping them at 30-1.
By Wednesday morning, the book's liability on the Browns winning the Super Bowl had grown to around $250,000, "10 times greater than any other team," PointsBet CEO Johnny Aitken told ESPN, adding that he'd rather take bets on Cleveland than the Patriots, Chiefs or Los Angeles Rams.
"We're all right with taking bets on the Browns," Aitken said.
Shashi did his job, (and he did it well) and he was well paid for it. He was never hired to be a football guru, because he was not and never will be.
What can't be denied....the plan worked.
I like John Dorsey and am happy as heck we have him, but he walked in to a sweet deal.
My only beef is a few people seem to feel Depo is some simpleton flunky who is ignored....he isn't, and he isn't. I don't get why that is so hard to accept?
No further comments on it from me because I don't want to carry it on...they can take their shots and then we can carry on with the party.
Sorry for the interruption.
Go Browns.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
And only give up the 17th and 132nd selections in the Draft.
We gave up the 95th, not the 132nd. We were supposed to get 132 in exchange for 155 but apparently this is what happened (I think):
Browns, Giants Alter Zeitler/Vernon Trade
March 13th, 2019 at 11:20am CST by Dallas Robinson
When the Browns and Giants agreed to swap guard Kevin Zeitler and defensive end Olivier Vernon earlier this week, the two clubs also decided to trade draft picks: Cleveland was set to give up a fifth-round pick (No. 155) to New York, while Big Blue send a fourth-round pick (No. 132) to the Browns. Now, following the deal that will send Odell Beckham Jr. to Cleveland, the two teams have agreed to revise the Zeitler/Brown trade.
The pick swap will no longer occur, according to Art Stapleton of NorthJersey.com (Twitter link). Instead, Zeitler will simply be traded straight up for Vernon, while OBJ will go to the Browns in a separate move. However, you can look at both swaps together as such: Beckham and Vernon for Zeitler, Peppers, No. 17 overall and No. 95 overall.
It’s unclear as to why the Giants and Browns have reached this agreement. The return for Beckham has been widely panned, so it’s possible the Giants asked for the Vernon/Zeitler pick swap to be eliminated as something of a face-saving move (although undoing a 23-spot drop in the draft probably isn’t worth all that much).
Your not a little Happy are you Ballpeen?? HAHAHAHA... Man, I come into work and EVERYONE is talking about the Browns. Our offense was going to good but now, it should be supercharged!!!
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