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Wow. Broke the kids arm. Doesn't bode well for a player with a domestic violence history who is currently on probation for previous conviction.


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Maybe Kansas City will cut him.


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So you’re saying the guy who beat up his pregnant girlfriend doesn’t magically now know how to control himself?

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If Hunt got 8 games, what does a 2nd offender get? I'd say at least the whole season, and maybe an indefinite suspension beyond that.

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KC’s dynamic trio is looking like a solo act this coming year.
We’ve got their RB. The league will be holding Hill’s cleats for at least a few games is my guess.
Mahomes is going solo. He’s going to need Kelce to have a career year.


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I am so sorry for their family. Violence within a family is always a horrible thing.

I see a full season suspension, as he was already in the violence program, IIRC.


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I am so sorry for their family. Violence within a family is always a horrible thing.

I see a full season suspension, as he was already in the violence program, IIRC.


Should be more than that. How on earth can somebody break a little boy's arm? I really hope this was some sort of accident.


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RB’s are interchangeable to a degree, not so much with WR’s. We’ll see if KC keeps their no tolerance policy of domestic violence.

It’ll be interesting if they keep Hill, who has a worse history than Hunt (assuming this is true).


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Didn’t Adrian Peterson get a year for switching his kid? I would think a broken arm, if deliberate, would warrant more than that.


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i'm hoping this turns out to be untrue ... i feel for that kid if it's true


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I have a hard time imagining any rationale for hitting a 3 year old other than a light smack on their bottom or maybe a slap on the wrist if they're reaching for something dangerous, like a pot of boiling water or an electrical outlet.

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A possible big blow to KC.


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Hopefully, it was an accident. If not, he should receive a long suspension.

I'm all for giving guys a second chance, but this would be a repeat offense on a family member.

Again, I hope it was an accident. Mostly because I don't want his child to grow-up in such a toxic environment. If Hill loses his ability to play football, can you imagine how frustrated and angry he will be. That doesn't bode well for his son or other family members.

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Fairly certain child services will be involved with this.


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If Hunt got 8 games, what does a 2nd offender get? I'd say at least the whole season, and maybe an indefinite suspension beyond that.


I think I saw on NFLn last night that Hunt was being looked at for three incidents.. One of which he was found to be not responsible for. So that leaves him with 2 incidents which is why he got 8 games..


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I know you are kidding....I have him on both of my keeper teams...I think I am going to have to adjust who I keep. I don't think he is going to be playing anytime soon....and shouldn't be


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Let's not jump to conclusions. The child has a broken arm. From the article, "KCTV 5 obtained another Overland Park police report from March 5 on a report of child abuse or neglect. That report was closed three days later when authorities declined to prosecute, according to KCTV 5’s report."

It often happens that if a child is injured during a suspected lapse of parental or custodial attention, the police will report that lapse as possible neglect to the local children's/family authorities and let them decide whether that lapse was criminal or not.

I don't know what happened, but the fact that both Hill and Espinal were named, and no charges made open the possibility that the child was injured accidentally.


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good point, the neglect wording may lend itself to that scenario


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They need to let the investigation play out before doing anything, whether anyone thinks that's a good thing or a bad thing. It's just a true thing.

He has a history of domestic abuse, so unfortunately, that looks bad, especially in the media.

If he did it, man, he's in trouble.

And, sadly, IF he did, their's no video of it that we know of, so with being cut, fined, suspended, or worse as a possible penalty, there is a chance someone else may take the fall for it in light of the job/contract, etc. situation.

Terrible situation, no doubt, but until more information is known by the people/organizations doing the investigation, we probably shouldn't rush to judgment just yet. It certainly, on the face of it, looks bad.

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Second time he tried to hurt the same son. The first time, his momma's belly protected him.

Yep, you reqd that correctly. Hill allegedly tried to cause her to miscarriage by pounding on the belly.


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And Tyreek Hill has twins on the way. Lovely.

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Second time he tried to hurt the same son. The first time, his momma's belly protected him.

Yep, you reqd that correctly. Hill allegedly tried to cause her to miscarriage by pounding on the belly.


Excuse my language here, but what kinda Jackarse does stuff like that... Seriously, it's not like he has to worry about how he's going to handle the costs of a child...

Idiot


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Very interesting to see how KC handles this since they set such a harsh precedent with Hunt.

I don't think in anyone's mind this incident is the lesser of the two.

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Very interesting to see how KC handles this since they set such a harsh precedent with Hunt.

I don't think in anyone's mind this incident is the lesser of the two.


But I also think KC wishes they hadn't jumped the gun on releasing Hunt to begin with.



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Ok the Mighty Chiefs have lost 2 powerful weapons (Hunt/Hill) in one year, that will be hard for them to overcome, it would be hard for anyone to overcome losing those two weapons ...


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Originally Posted By: BpG
Very interesting to see how KC handles this since they set such a harsh precedent with Hunt.

I don't think in anyone's mind this incident is the lesser of the two.


If the stories are accurate, hitting a child in the womb is, in my mind, way worse that kicking a woman who appeared to be drunk and somewhat angry about something... Neither is right, but hurting a pregnant woman,, Come on..


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Very interesting to see how KC handles this since they set such a harsh precedent with Hunt.

I don't think in anyone's mind this incident is the lesser of the two.


If the stories are accurate, hitting a child in the womb is, in my mind, way worse that kicking a woman who appeared to be drunk and somewhat angry about something... Neither is right, but hurting a pregnant woman,, Come on..


Well we already know he beat his pregnant girlfriend. He pled guilty to that charge.

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I am not including you in this, cfrs. However, I think some people are confused about the current Hill case.

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Wow! This is so, so sad to hear.


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Very interesting to see how KC handles this since they set such a harsh precedent with Hunt.

I don't think in anyone's mind this incident is the lesser of the two.


But I also think KC wishes they hadn't jumped the gun on releasing Hunt to begin with.



Didn't they show interest in signing him when we did? I thought I read it was us, KC and CHI that reached out to him. If so, then you are obviously correct.


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I am not including you in this, cfrs. However, I think some people are confused about the current Hill case.


Apparently I'm one of them


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If it is proven that Hill broke the arm of a 3 year old after what he has already done.

He should never see a NFL field again.

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I suppose it’s a little odd Hill hasn’t made a statement to the media attempting to clear his name. Meaning, if you knew your son fell off his bike and then the media took off with “Hill’s under investigation for breaking his son’s arm”, you’d want to get out in front of that FAST.

The silence is deafening (and I only have one working ear).


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I suppose it’s a little odd Hill hasn’t made a statement to the media attempting to clear his name. Meaning, if you knew your son fell off his bike and then the media took off with “Hill’s under investigation for breaking his son’s arm”, you’d want to get out in front of that FAST.

The silence is deafening (and I only have one working ear).


He's probably following the advice of his attorney since this is under investigation. You have the right the remain silent, it's always a good idea to utilize this right.


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I suppose it’s a little odd Hill hasn’t made a statement to the media attempting to clear his name. Meaning, if you knew your son fell off his bike and then the media took off with “Hill’s under investigation for breaking his son’s arm”, you’d want to get out in front of that FAST.

The silence is deafening (and I only have one working ear).


He's probably following the advice of his attorney since this is under investigation. You have the right the remain silent, it's always a good idea to utilize this right.


Right, I get that 100%, but if you really did nothing wrong, I would be screaming that off the mountain tops if it was for a charge like this.

A simple, "He fell down the stairs. The investigation will prove that this was a simple accident. I'd never intentionally hurt my own kid, again."

Okay, the "again" is my own little sarcastic addition, but you get the idea.


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