DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Kareem Hunt suspended eight games

You're right. Where I came up with that I have no idea. lmao

But there's no doubt that if you do something like that to a player, he isn't going to want to play for your team anymore.

There IS an outside chance Hunt was signed for a 1 year deal at $1 million, knowing he was facing suspension of anywhere from 2-10 games (I know he got 8, but at the time he was signed, the length of suspension wasn't known).....but, there IS a chance he was signed with the hope he'd play lights out in however many games he played, and then we could trade him for a first round pick the next year.

yeah the RFA tag is big here. at the end of the year the market can set his value. That works out well for us.. We would still have the tag as well

I think with Dorsey in charge we are now in a situation we would trade almost any player at any time if the price was right. He will be a RFA so anything is possible. Having the combination of such a dynamic backfield with Chubb/Hunt as our RB's is almost drool worthy. But in the long run the cost of those two may be more than Dorsey is willing to pay at the RB position.

I think we've come to a time with Dorsey that trying to predict the moves that will be made is going to be harder than ever. And that as fans we need to keep our minds open that there are many possibilities for the outcome of any situation.

Not sure completely, but I dont think we could trade him if he is a FA. Not sure if being a RFA changes that. Also why would he allow that ? It would be in his best interest to be a FA and go where he wants to go

Yeah,I don't know all the details of all that. It was just a thought.

But that's not how any of this works. RFA is a restricted free agent. Which means a team can put a tag on him that forces other teams to not only match your contract offer but give you draft compensation based on what round you tendered him at. ie.... You put a second round tender on Hunt. Any other NFL team would have to match your contract offer plus give you a second round pick for Hunt.

That's the difference in a FA and a RFA.

It's not a trade per say. It's the designation that the NFL says a player falls under. I'm not sure about your ability to trade a RFA but those are the guideline on how it works.

Yeah, we're in a good spot with Hunt to control him for 1-3 years depending on his productivity/behavior

Per this: Can a restricted free agent be traded?
A team is not allowed to sign another team's free agent and then immediately trade him. However, a team is allowed to re-sign their own free agent and immediately trade him to another team by adding a clause to the contract making it invalid if the player is not traded to a specific team within 48 hours.

j/c:

All I know is that Hunt is going to be a huge asset for us this year, provided he stays healthy and out of trouble.

I am not sure if people understand the beating you take at the RB position. Him having fresh legs is going to be huge for him, Chubb, and the entire Brown's team.

I would agree...

I would not be surprised to see us draft another RB in hopes of finding a gem. Once we tender Hunt and someone "steals" him from us, we could wind up with an additional draft pick. Or we can just resign Hunt. It's win-win.

I would like to believe that if he straightens his life up and toes the line, He might understand that the Browns are giving him an opportunity to restart his career. Being from here would probably be something attractive to him, and if the team is doing well when he returns, he might just look at this as the best situation he could have.

This kid is young, if they sign him long term, he and Chubb could be a force for years.

I like the thought of some local players being on the team, especially if things turn around. These guys know the struggle

I thought Chubb was wearing down at the end of the year, wasn't the same back in the 2nd half of games.

???? Chubb was one of the big reasons we went 5-2 in the last 7 Games ????

And that's where the mandate that he stays away from the team seems so detrimental to the idea.

Good grief! You speak out of your butt

Well, it's hard to have two TD's in three carries with 105 yards every game.

I just look at the opportunities he's been given and it seems we don't use him very much. Even less with Freddie.

I like Duke and think he's done well in the very limited opportunities he's been given. But just like with any player, if he doesn't fit into your scheme, sometimes it's better for both the player and the team to move him.

To me the O isn't that much different than the D in that regard. When a defense changes from a 3-4 to a 4-3 , some of the players in the 3-4 don't really fit in the new scheme. As I've shown in other places, the stats indicate that Duke was used even less once Freddie took over the O.

So I can see it both ways. I like Duke and would love to see him remain a Brown. But on the other hand, if Duke isn't going to be used as a play maker in our O, I would also love to see him get that opportunity elsewhere.

Ravens game he did nothing.

Bengals game it was the Bengals and he had over 100 but it wasn't all that impressive.

Denver game awesome game best game of thy he year.

Carolina was a so so game. Not a lot of attempts.

Houston another crappy game.

Imho going on memory, he started games hot near the end of the year but kinda just wasn't hitting holes the same in the 4th as he was in Oct and Nov.

Maybe u guys are right and I don't know a damn thing about football and just talking out my ass. Heaven forbid anyone have any criticism on a Browns player that is popular.

Chubb, over the entire season, averaged 4.8 yards in the first half and 5.8 yards in the second half.

After Carlos Hyde was traded Nick Chubb averaged 4.68 yards per carry.

When I have more time I can look into how many yards Chubb had in the second half of games after Hyde was traded.

I don't know. I am stating the way I understand things, but am also asking a question....anybody know?

I didn't think he could have any contact or practice.

I will read the thread further, maybe the answer will be found.

I know it only takes 6 games. I said it would probably take at least 2 weeks to get up to speed, and then be tempted to sit him one more. Thus, he would only have 5 games.

Now information has been provided he can practice up until the season starts, so he may not need a 2 week lay-off to be ready to play.

That is pretty true for most rookies, especially guys playing running back. The end of Bowl season to the start of the NFL season doesn't allow much time off for a rookie.

Luckily the fired coaches gave Chubb plenty of time off early in the season. Foresight!

You guys never stop w/the same old crap.

We are allowed to joke about how bad our team used to be.

Well, some of "us" are. I joked about someone not getting the Miami GM job and people blew a gasket to the point where the thread got locked.

I live a life of privilege.

Anyway, I get the feeling that a lot of posters don't realize just how good Hunt is. I am hypothesizing on this because of the things I am reading about Duke and Chubb and the lack of hype for Hunt.

I think Hunt is an elite RB. He's strong. He is fast in the open field. He is a great receiver. He can elude tackles. He has big-play ability and he is tough as nails.

This was a truly underrated move by Dorsey.

I can't speak for others but I can speak for myself. The Hunt acquisition, while shrewd, makes me feel dirty.

Not with me Vers. We have my top RBs' from the last two Drafts.

I am as happy as a dawg with two bones *L*

I don't feel dirty but since we won't see him for half a season it's kind of out of sight out of mind... he's a talent for sure... hope he stays clean...

I knew he was good, even before we signed him. I saw him gash us last November.

Shakes my head ...

Hunt led NFL in rushing, as a rookie, and people act as though he should be a backup. Amazing...