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He does?

I think that they badly overpaid for an average, at best, LT. Then you take into consideration that they already seemed to have their LT in Kolton Miller. Then they trade away their high quality starting RG, Kelechi Osemele. Are the Raiders going to move Miller to the right side? Does he fit at RT? If he doesn't, then they wasted last year's #1.

I agree with U on Brown .... he’s average on a good day ... they way way way overpaid for him ..

Miller STUNK last year .... he’s being moved to RT ... he may stink there also ... *L* ...

I might be mistaken, but I thought that Miller improved quite a bit as the year went by.

I seem to recall that they had injuries to their Guards as well.

The argument is he isn't 1st tier.

Giving a so-so LT the largest ever average contract for a LT, with huge guarantees, is not sensible.

Will he upgrade their OL? Maybe. Maybe not.

If I remember correctly, Brown was one of the lowest rated pass blocking OT in the league last year. (PFF)

Yep. Here t is. They also make mention of how Brady's quick decisions/release helped Brown (and the rest of the Pats OL) immensely.

Raiders to sign former Patriots LT Trent Brown, but is he worth the money? | NFL Analysis | Pro Football Focus
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pr...worth-the-money

When the Oakland Raiders handed offensive lineman Trent Brown a record-breaking deal that made him the highest paid left tackle in the NFL, they did it for one reason: security. They want Derek Carr or whoever is behind center to not have to worry about the blindside. Just because they paid a high price though, doesn’t necessarily mean it will come true. Don’t get me wrong, Trent Brown’s improvement over the past couple of seasons has been inspired, but he still has a very long way to go until he’s mentioned in the same breath as the league’s best pass protectors.

Among all offensive tackles that played at least 800 snaps in the NFL last year, Brown’s pass-blocking grade ranked 37th. It’s impressive that he was able to play at such a high level on the left side after playing right tackle the three years prior in San Francisco, but that’s not exactly an inspiring number. Of those 49 qualifying tackles, his 33 pressures allowed ranked 33rd. Those numbers simply aren’t close to elite production. While that certainly represents an upgrade over Kolton Miller who was in the bottom three of both those categories, they aren’t close to elite.

It’s worth noting that those numbers also come in one of the most favorable schemes in the NFL for linemen. Tom Brady’s quick release combined with offensive line coach Dante Scarnecchia make life easier on offensive linemen. The same cannot be said for offensive line coach Tom Cable whose lines have ranked in the bottom three in terms of pass-blocking grade in each of the past four seasons. Brown has immense physical talent, and he’ll likely be better at left tackle in year two at the position, but this move hasn’t secured the blindside in the way the money would suggest.

Yep. Raiders will have buyer's remorse. Bad deal.

I did not want to start a new thread and I couldn't find anywhere else to put this, but did you guys see that Kingsbury is going to give his players breaks every 20-30 minutes during meetings so they can get cell phones for social media breaks.

https://www.mlive.com/sports/2019/03/kli...-criticism.html

What an ass.

Wow...........it's not like they are being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars (on the low end) to millions of dollars. I guess expecting them to leave their damn phones at the door is asking too much?

He was a questionable hire to begin with. Dude had a losing record at Texas Tech and was fired. He is being laughed at right now w/the social media comment.

As a former teacher, I understand giving people breaks. Research shows that 45 minutes is as long as you can go w/out having people lose their attention span, but the dude should have never said he wanted the players to have a social media break.

I have a feeling this hire will not end well for the Cardinals.

That's actually hard to believe.

j/c

Considering most of his players are going to be millenials, it actually kind of makes sense. Social media policies are fairly standard in most big businesses.

I'm not sure I'd have worded it the way he did, but that's probably what guys would be doing during any break. I'm guessing the breaks are relatively short, so what else would they have time to do?

Guys hopping on their phones/tablets during breaks is probably what happened at Texas Tech, and he's resigned himself to it.

Jim Tomsula did this when he was the head coach of the 49ers. I bet other coaches do it and we just don’t know about it.

People learn differently. It is important to know who you are teaching and adapt accordingly.

I believe he also did this at Texas Tech.

Yep. He's just trying to keep them focused.

"I think coming from the college ranks to obviously, those young men, it's got to be quick hitters, 20 minutes at a time, give them a break and get them back in," he said. "We want to make sure that when we have them, they're focused, and they're locked in, and we're maximizing their time.

"So if we've got to split it up or have shorter meetings, that's what we do."

In other news, it seems like the Rosen trade rumors are starting to heat up.

On that note....

I totally agree with taking a QB first if you don't think you have the guy on the team. With that said, letting Steve Keim make this decision is a disaster for the Cardinals. His track record since Arians left has been horrible.

I'm so happy we are set at qb.....

we gotta get that guy !!

Next up.....milk, cookies, and mandatory naps for all players during practice.

Seems kind of crazy to me but I don't have a big problem with it.

Face it, times are different these days with the younger players. If giving a 5 minute pause helps them focus better for 30 minutes, maybe it's a good idea.

Is he talking about his players or his children?

No kidding. Unless there's some sound science behind this, it doesn't really make sense. I can see frequent breaks to let the material sink in, but jumping right to your twitter account every 20 minutes, completely distracted from what was just taught, doesn't seem like an effective teaching method.

j/c:

I'm going to say this again since there is some disagreement about the breaks. Research has shown that breaks should be given every 45-50 minutes. It's not every 20 minutes. It's 45 minutes.

I also think that allowing people to talk casually and/or use the restroom are far more productive if your intentions are to build a positive team culture than saying that the break is intended for social media. However, my stance would not be to outlaw phones because there are times when people need to check in w/family via text messages. I don't think Facebook and Twitter breaks are very intelligent means to unwind.

It's just unbelievable.. what is he thinking

Read us another story Coach PLLEEAASSSEEEEE

You are joking, but teams literally have nap chambers at the facilities.

I would have enjoyed it more if our curse floated only a short distance of 120 miles to pittsburgh.

Well the Browns had that RV last year, is that what your thinking of? Gotta remember, that was used by the QB's during time away from the field or classroom study,,

They have created their own curse of letting the lunatics (players) run the asylum. When Ben was younger it didn't hurt them as much, but age catches up to everybody, the losses will be following soon.

No. Teams have rooms to nap in at the facility. Sleep study has been huge in all sports the last couple of years. Most NBA teams require their players to nap at certain times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/07/sports/basketball/07naps.html

Napping is also becoming more common in regular workplaces.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kaytiezimmerman/2018/02/01/time-start-taking-naps-work/

Maybe they found an algorithm.



So much for accountability.

So ... what is he going to do during games?

"Hey refs, hold up a minute. My players need a social media break." ???

Halftime will be a social media break, instead of going over the 1st half, and then 2nd half adjustments?

My favorite thing about this is that he evidently said he did it at Texas Tech, with good results. The guy went 35-40 at Tech, with his only winning season being his 1st at the school. Yep. Good results, for sure.

There are ways to structure a team's meetings and practices so that the players don't start tuning out, but this just reeks of a total lack of discipline.

"Coach, isn't it time for our phone break yet?"

"No Billy. There is still 4:23 left in the half."

"Aww .. can't we just forfeit or something? I am expecting a really important meme."

We have a "quiet room" at my office that I've used for naps a few times. It's just a room set aside with a wall-mounted waterfall and two recliners in it.

There is virtually zero chance this Kingsberry trial works out.

Back to this... I have to think the Giants would be dumb not to use their 2nd 1st round pick (the one we gave them) for Rosen. They have NOTHING behind Eli. I liked Lauletta, but now I don't... the Giants are going to waste Barkley unless they do something at the quarterback position. Gettleman could salvage his awfulness with a move like this.