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I have enjoyed what i have seen so far out of many of our Buckeyes at the Combine. Just wondering if you might want a few more on the Browns next year. Which ones are reasonable?

Also, how much is Bosa worth after injury? Is he still the top-shelf pick? What would it take to get him?

I really hope we get some quality chunks out of this draft. Your thoughts?


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Bosa does not make it past 3.


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I would take Bosa but the chance that he's available at 17 or that we move up that far is extremely slim. So out of the rest of the Buckeyes draft eligible the only ones I would be interested in drafting would WRs Parris Campbell and Terry McLaurin. The list of Buckeyes available are;

DE Nick Bosa
QB Dwayne Haskins
DT Dre'Mont Jones
WR Parris Campbell
C/G Michael Jordan
WR Terry McLaurin
CB Kendall Sheffield
RB Mike Weber
OT Isaiah Prince
WR Johnnie Dixon
OG Malcolm Pridgeon
OG Demetrius Knox
LB Dante Booker
C Brady Taylor
K Sean Nuernberger


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I wouldn't mind Campbell (if he lasts to our 2nd) or McLaurin (est 5th) if we're in the hunt for a WR by draft time. Jordan would be good depth if we're looking C/G in the 3rd/4th, but we have bigger needs than this.

Bosa will be gone by 2 or 3 at the latest, I can't see him going beyond that. It'd take way too much to move up to get him - like our first this year and next year plus 2 seconds (or maybe even more).

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I like Bosa, but he won't be there.

Haskins has a chance, but we don't need a qb.

I'm not a fan of the offensive linemen or the linebacker and corner. Jones is pretty good, but he is making a huge switch to OLB. That's tough.

I like Campbell, but he will probably go before we pick in round 2. McLauren is fast and very good on special teams. I think Dixon is faster than he looks and he is a damn good route runner. He might be a viable option later on.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I like Bosa, but he won't be there.

Haskins has a chance, but we don't need a qb.

I'm not a fan of the offensive linemen or the linebacker and corner. Jones is pretty good, but he is making a huge switch to OLB. That's tough.

I like Campbell, but he will probably go before we pick in round 2. McLauren is fast and very good on special teams. I think Dixon is faster than he looks and he is a damn good route runner. He might be a viable option later on.


I don't think Jones is switching to OLB. Teams can ask players to work out at a 2nd position, so he worked out there. Don't think he will be there long term.

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Okay, thanks.

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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2019-...ng-bench-press/

Kendall Sheffield tore his pec during the bench press today at the combine. Sucks that happened. I was very curious to see his 40 yard dash and 3 cone drill tomorrow. Sheffield has been billed as the fastest player OSU has had for the past few years.

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I agree. Not sure I see him as The First, but it wouldn't surprise me. I have not heard if his rehab was solid, or whether his injury hurt his draft status. Looks like it has not. But looks like we get lots of help on line/LB in this one.

I agree that it will take an insane amount to move up to earliest rounds.


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McLaurin is a “Glue” guy. I’m a big fan, he did nothing but produce, catch TD’s and dominate special teams.

I think that Sheffield tore his pec on the bench he could be a 2nd day steal.

We don’t need Haskins, we won’t get Bosa.

I love Paris Campbell’s work ethic, I just question his projection to the next level. He probably ran himself into the 1st round, which is too rich for my blood.

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Rather have Sweat.

Like the speedy WR if there at 3rd round. He did a lot of Jett sweeps with Ohio and is a commodity and threat I'd like to have on running plays, put him in motion and then run between OTs with Chubb or hand off on the Jett sweep or fake and throw a pass! or Fake then throw a screen to the jett sweep guy!


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Of the guys you mentioned, McLaurin is the only one where we will have a real chance at drafting. The others will be gone unless we trade up, and I doubt we will for either.

Bosa because it would cost way to much, and Campbell because there will probably be equal value there when we do draft.

But, who knows? Dorsey likes speed and Campbell has that. I doubt we would go back in to the 1st to get him, but we could trade up several spots in the 2nd round if he is a targeted player.

I am pretty sure we will move up somewhere in the draft, though I suspect we are targeting defensive players early on.


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At this point I think Haskins, Bosa, Mclaurin, Campbell are all ruled out.

They all look to be 1st round guys from what I am reading, maybe MClaurin slips to rnd 2 but still too rich for my blood.



Two guys that seems to be overlooked for me:

OT: Isaah Prince is an absolute beast of a man. He has all the untapped potential to be an All Pro type tackle from a physical standpoint. Good feet and just a monster of a man.


OG: Demetrius Knox, I thought he filled in well in the Bowl Game, he never really got a shot but he has good size and pedigree to be maybe an undrafted gem.

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Originally Posted By: BpG
At this point I think Haskins, Bosa, Mclaurin, Campbell are all ruled out.

They all look to be 1st round guys from what I am reading, maybe MClaurin slips to rnd 2 but still too rich for my blood.



Two guys that seems to be overlooked for me:

OT: Isaah Prince is an absolute beast of a man. He has all the untapped potential to be an All Pro type tackle from a physical standpoint. Good feet and just a monster of a man.


OG: Demetrius Knox, I thought he filled in well in the Bowl Game, he never really got a shot but he has good size and pedigree to be maybe an undrafted gem.


Prince never seemed to play to his potential. I can remember he was a holding/penalty machine last year.


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If Dre'Mont Jones is at #49 he will be a Brown and I wouldn't be surprised to see Dorsey jump a few spots for him ... JMHO


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At this point I think Haskins, Bosa, Mclaurin, Campbell are all ruled out.

They all look to be 1st round guys from what I am reading, maybe MClaurin slips to rnd 2 but still too rich for my blood.



Two guys that seems to be overlooked for me:

OT: Isaah Prince is an absolute beast of a man. He has all the untapped potential to be an All Pro type tackle from a physical standpoint. Good feet and just a monster of a man.


OG: Demetrius Knox, I thought he filled in well in the Bowl Game, he never really got a shot but he has good size and pedigree to be maybe an undrafted gem.


Prince never seemed to play to his potential. I can remember he was a holding/penalty machine last year.


*False Starts


He kept starting too early last season was his biggest flaw. Down the stretch he was excellent, especially in pass pro.

He's not a bender so he is always going to play upright and stiff, but he is long and agile. 23 on the bench is disappointing but I think he is stronger than that.

Some team is going to see all that potential and reach. I mean we drafted Shon Coleman in the 2nd round....Prince is better than that.

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If Sheffield's injury is not too serious he's the one Buck that I really want. He might not be ready to start this year but he has plenty of talent to play in this league.

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If Sheffield's injury is not too serious he's the one Buck that I really want. He might not be ready to start this year but he has plenty of talent to play in this league.


I agree this kid is very talented when/if he is healthy ... thumbsup


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I would spend quite a bit for Bosa. May not be the wisest choice. But I would like to see a real price tag on him.


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I am a huge Buckeye fan and it irritates me when posters on this board make assumptions that we might like a guy just because he is from Ohio State and we hate a guy just because he went to TUN.

With that said.........Prince was terrible this past year. Huge liability. His false starts are because he is slow out of his stance.

I think Ohio State produces a lot of great players, but I would stay away from anyone who played on our OL this year.

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I agree with you about the Buckeyes OL performance last year which is why I was so surprised how well they protected Haskins against Michigan who was supposed to have a great defense.

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I would spend quite a bit for Bosa. May not be the wisest choice. But I would like to see a real price tag on him.


We don't have that much to spend without a 1st rounder this year. Future picks are worth less than current picks.

We would probably have to give this years 2nd, and our first rounders in 20 AND 21.

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I think its all about familiarity. You Buckeye fans know the players there inside and out so its easy for you all to pimp your guys.

I actually try to watch them during the year only because of you fans. I really love their DBs in general year after year they put out some good ones. I would like hear more from you buckeye fans on Sheffield. He doesn't have the size for 1st round early but the kid is fast any pros and cons on him from you fans? Is he an automatic at 49 if he's there?

I guess most of the DBs are young and returning - boy you will be stacked there next season!


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I wouldn't touch Sheffield before the 4th rnd, the kid is athletic as heck but he has almost no idea how to play CB. The guy lacks instincts, technique, and ball skills, he should have stayed in school and learned how play the position.


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As a Buckeye football fan I'm certainly able to separate my Buckeye fandom from my draft breakdowns. It's not really often for me that a Buckeye player lines up with where we are picking in the draft order.

At the same time, the Buckeyes have been pretty good at churning out CB's and we have seemed to have a knack of overlooking them. I understand why some Browns fans perception is that Buckeye fans pimp those players simply over being Buckeye Homers. It's because some Buckeye fans do.

I've seen it on this very board where Buckeye fans will pimp an OSU QB high in the draft that I wouldn't even consider drafting until rounds four or five.

So the homer Buckeye fans do exist on this board. It's just not all of us.

When drafting I couldn't care any less where a kid goes to college as long as he's a good player for the Browns.


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I will never forget the Troy Smith hype, it was beyond ridiculous. SO was the Beanie Wells hype.


Then we pass on Cam Heyward for Phil Taylor.
Passed on Michael Thomas for Corey Coleman.

etc. etc.



The Buckeyes have historically put out great players that we have a knack for whiffing on. So yes, I do tend to put a bigger emphasis on Buckeyes, especially the value Buckeyes.

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I won't hesitate to pimp a Buckeye that's worthy of the hype. But I agree that when we have posters pimping the likes of Troy Smith and Beanie Wells it certainly gives others the perception that Buckeye fans are over the top homers.


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tab, The Buckeye defense has put a tremendous burden on their corners the past several years. They man up and don't get much help. I think some folks don't realize that and then undervalue them when it comes to the draft.

With that said, I would not put Sheffield in the same class as our recent corners. He is extremely fast, but he is extremely raw. I'm not saying he won't be a good player, but I would not take him in the second round.

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I see there is some discussion about Sheffield being a round 2 target. I stated earlier that I like Sheffield and believe he can become a starter but I never said that he should be taken with the #49 pick. Round 4 would be the earliest I would consider him. When healthy Mitchell is fine across from Ward. Sheffield is a player that can be developed over time.

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Originally Posted By: guard dawg
I see there is some discussion about Sheffield being a round 2 target. I stated earlier that I like Sheffield and believe he can become a starter but I never said that he should be taken with the #49 pick. Round 4 would be the earliest I would consider him. When healthy Mitchell is fine across from Ward. Sheffield is a player that can be developed over time.


tab asked me a direct question about drafting Sheffield at 49. I answered.

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The only Buckeye who I wouldn't take a bunch of other players at their position sooner this year is Bosa.

I actually think Troy and Beanie had the talent for success in the NFL.(Probably not super stardom.) Beanie just had injury issues. Troy had an issue with the buffet circuit and then a poorly timed case of appendicitis. (I think.) He was supposed to start over Flacco before whatever health issue struck.

Would have loved to see what those two could have done together along with Ted Ginn on a team that had a solid OL, if healthy.


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The only Buckeyes I liked this past year, were Webber and Dobbins,
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Didn't see that. My bad.

On topic, I do like Mike Webber. I think he may be a better pro than he was a collegian.

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Yeah, I think Webber will get drafted later on but should be a nice back for someone.

I also think we have 3 WRs that can help NFL teams.

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Originally Posted By: dawg66
I wouldn't touch Sheffield before the 4th rnd, the kid is athletic as heck but he has almost no idea how to play CB. The guy lacks instincts, technique, and ball skills, he should have stayed in school and learned how play the position.


What about SS??? But good I guess there is a reason that I didn't get to see much film on him available.

So a later round pick. Can't teach speed. hopefully there in the 6th round or 5th. The guy I really want is Johnson from Houston.


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Heard Haskins on the radio today, man that kid sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders.

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I got the impression that the Media really didn't like this kid. I personally think he is without a doubt the best QB prospect in this draft. Giants better go get him.

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