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Well ..... I can only assume that this is the news you wanted to convey.?.?

Cleveland Browns expected to introduce Odell Beckham Jr. to team Monday, per report
http://www.cleveland19.com/2019/03/29/cl...day-per-report/

By Randy Buffington | March 29, 2019 at 11:56 AM EDT - Updated March 29 at 11:56 AM
CLEVELAND, OH (WOIO) - The Cleveland Browns are expected to introduce Odell Beckham Jr. to the team on Monday, April 1, according to Tom Withers of the Associated Press.
The announcement will make for a media frenzy in Cleveland considering it’s opening day for the Cleveland Indians.



The Browns got Beckham in a trade from the New York Giants in exchange for the Browns’ first-round pick (No. 17 overall) the second of the Browns’ third-round picks (No. 95) and safety Jabrill Peppers.

The 26-year-old wide receiver is in the prime of his career, he finished with 1,052 yards, 77 receptions and 6 touchdowns in 2018.


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Weird opening post.

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This was supposed to be a picture of OBJ in Browns gear yelling “Dawg check.”

Like this:


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j/c:

OBJ, Antonio Brown, and Julio Jones are regarded as the top 3 WRs in the NFL when reporters/coaches/players are debating the topic.

Hopkins, Green, Evans, Thomas, Thielan, Allen and maybe another guy or two who I am forgetting are just below the first three, but are still considered top-ten receivers. Most of these receivers are big, strong, fast guys.

In my eye, AB and OBJ separate themselves from the others because of fast they run their routes. They get in and out of breaks so much faster than any of the other guys. They often run routes that include multiple moves, cuts, and changes of direction. There is absolutely no sloppiness in their route running. Everything is precise, quick, and explosive.

I think that ability makes them almost uncoverable. You can double or roll you coverage to the other guys on the list to slow them down somewhat. But AB and OBJ quick and precise routes gets them open against any type of coverage. I think that's huge!

I understand that some don't like OBJ's personality, but he is an elite receiver. I rank him and AB as the top two guys and OBJ is quite a bit younger.

The trade for OBJ was a masterful coup for Dorsey and the Browns.

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I think that it is both funny and wrong that they chose April Fool's Day to do the formal, official introduction.


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Solid breakdown. We could not have taken our 17 and matched OBJ potential numbers even if average. Amazing how he can disrupt coverage. He will have more love from BM, at least, I hope so, than he has enjoyed recently. A little more focus and a bit less nonsense would suit me fine, but his package is ours to handle.

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1st day of OTA's. No biggie.

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I don't understand how, after watching Landry last year, he could be left out of the conversation about Top WR's?


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I think Landry is a top 10-12 WR in football, but I didn't include him because I thought it would start another argument.

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OBJ, Antonio Brown, and Julio Jones are regarded as the top 3 WRs in the NFL when reporters/coaches/players are debating the topic.

And OBJ is way younger than the other 2! We got the best and got his prime for another 6 years at the least.


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After the elite 3 Vers mentioned there is a bevy of WRs in that 2nd wave of excellent. Landry is in that fold.

Landry is not done if he continues the same path he is on he will be finishing with a status of on of the Best!

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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
I think that it is both funny and wrong that they chose April Fool's Day to do the formal, official introduction.


I'm sure they'll start off the presser saying that, "Do to complications with OBJ's physical, he will not be joining the Browns for the upcoming season".


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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
I think that it is both funny and wrong that they chose April Fool's Day to do the formal, official introduction.


It’s random. It’s the first day of OTAs.

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001...andry-rank-no-1

Didn't see this posted anywhere else.

And if you dip to the 3rd WR - I don't think I can picture a better 3rd option than Calloway ... and 4th/5th - Higgins/Perrinman ? That is one LOADED roster at WR.


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Perriman isn't on the roster, he moved on to Tampa.


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Amazing - in less than 1 year, we go from one of the worst receiving corps in football to one of the best. Nice work JD!!!

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I know this isn't the thread to vote on best WR, but if I had to pick the best WR in the league it would be Mike Evans.

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Deandre Hopkins for me, although OBJ with less attitude would be my top WR.

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I wouldnt regard Landry as a top 10-12 WR in the NFL ... maybe top 20-25 is his range IMO

Jones
Brown
Beckham
Hopkins
Adams
Thomas
Evans
Hill
JuJu
Green
DIggs
Thielen
HIlton
Allen
Baldwin
Cooper
Cooks

Would all be guys I'd probably take over Landry


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Just for the record, when I spoke of the top 3 WRs in the league, I wasn't quoting some guys on a message board who rarely watch other teams play.

I was quoting reporters, coaches, current players, former players, and other WRs. I think their opinion carries more weight.

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Originally Posted By: devicedawg

I know this isn't the thread to vote on best WR, but if I had to pick the best WR in the league it would be Mike Evans.


OBJ says "hold my champagne". wink



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In Feb of 2018, Jerry Rice's top WRs in the NFL were:

Julio Jones, Antonio Brown, Larry Fitzgerald, OBJ, and A.J. Green.

I think Fitz has aged and isn't what he once was or even as good as he was in 2018, but I think many guys who really know the position agree w/the other 4.

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Un.
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Real.


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Kat's SPECIAL.

And Fast.

And Quick.

And he's OURS!!!!

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Un.
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Double.
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I think I've said somewhere that Hopkins is the best also... it's really back and forth for me on those two.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Just for the record, when I spoke of the top 3 WRs in the league, I wasn't quoting some guys on a message board who rarely watch other teams play.

I was quoting reporters, coaches, current players, former players, and other WRs. I think their opinion carries more weight.



It all depends who you listen to or watch... As Hammer pointed out, I'd say most articles I come across would always rate Hopkins in the top 3... My guy Evans is rated lower, but for me personally, I just love Evans.

I do think some big name people rate players without watching games and their rankings will be taken seriously because of their name. For instance, if Casserly were to rate top 20 WR in the game today, I'm not sure I'd take it seriously despite him having a big name in the football community.

One name you'll often see missing from top 10 or top 20 WR lists is one the Browns fans tend to overrate... I guess fans do tend to overrate their players from time to time.

Here's a link to one of my new favorite sites... top 20 WR. OBJ ranked 6th.

Top 20 WR

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Does anyone have any thoughts on whether he should continue to return kicks? [1] He's a phenomenal returner [2] It increases his chances of getting an injury.

I think he should continue to be a return man.... Gone should be the days we play in fear of the worst happening.


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Oh, and I was going to add, I think unfortunately for us, I think Ju-Ju is a big time up and comer and he's a steeler. He'll be in the talks of best WR in the game at some point. I think he's a key to the steelers success in the future. Hopefully he decides he doesn't want to play in Pittsburgh either....

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I agree that Ju-Ju is a talented WR. But when you go from the #2 WR on a team to the #1 WR on a team, you get a lot more attention. It will be interesting to see how that plays out. No other Steelers WR on their roster will draw the attention that Antonio Brown did. That attention will now be on Ju-Ju.


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Originally Posted By: mgh888
Does anyone have any thoughts on whether he should continue to return kicks? [1] He's a phenomenal returner [2] It increases his chances of getting an injury.

I think he should continue to be a return man.... Gone should be the days we play in fear of the worst happening.

I tend to agree... "can't live life in fear". If there weren't flags on 75% of the returns I would be all-in. That, to me, is where I understand the "not worth the risk" argument.


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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
I think that it is both funny and wrong that they chose April Fool's Day to do the formal, official introduction.


I think it's even funnier that you banned me last year on April fools day for creating a thread that said Odell Beckham Jr. was traded to the Browns for Corey Coleman, our #4 pick and a 2nd round pick.

I got some of you guys good with that one.

Call me a soothsayer.


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Shuster may wake to a new reality now that AB is gone.

He benefited from the coverage swung to cover AB.

We shall see how he does when he gets doubled.

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That's a fair point. I have read somewhere that the steelers are also high on James Washington... so we'll see what happens. Washington is on my way too early fantasy sleeper list.

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Rare ability.

I have always had a problem with "receivers" who drop passes.

All the skills that make receivers great you have to start with the ability to catch the ball.

I am super stoked to see this guy in a orange helmet.

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Originally Posted By: devicedawg

That's a fair point. I have read somewhere that the steelers are also high on James Washington... so we'll see what happens. Washington is on my way too early fantasy sleeper list.


It's not a Fair Point. It's a FACT.

I BELIEVE Smith is going to struggle mightily with either #1 CBS or double coverage on him.

Dude ain't great at getting off the LOS.

Advantage US again.

Man, things are falling into place PERFECTLY FOR US.

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Quote:
OBJ, Antonio Brown, and Julio Jones are regarded as the top 3 WRs in the NFL.


OBJ, Antonio Callaway and Julio Jones Rahard Higgans are regarded as the top 3 WRs in the NFL.

Fixed it. thumbsup


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Yeah and. (Yeah and there are 200 million people in the USA that can catch a football), sometimes coaching can out chess match a defense to get "any old" NFL player open in space, including route running sometimes, and sometimes just through deception,

So coaching is still so vital,
and it doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen sometimes, we can see it every year in the NFL.

But against great defensive scheme, in the most perilous stretches of competition, the greatest players' abilities are still Awesome.

And Coaching rofl


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I don't mind receivers drops so much, sometimes.

Remember when you were running routes and catching, as a kid, and, well it looks like it was right there but momentum, body lean, optical illusion, all sorts of things made it im-possible to make that tiny adjustment to not do what ends up looking like a dropped pass.
It happened every day.
It's like RB's who get tackled at the line of scrimmage, just part of the game, like everything else
it's a law of averages.


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