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Well I know its hindsight...but look how well Nassib played for TB after Dorsey cut him...everyone on that squad gushes about him, he was playing lights out ball...Could have actually had great depth, but for some reason he wasn't a Dorsey guy and his 800k salary had to go.
I know all of our coaches always do that (well league wide mainly) but it seems like we let go more of our players than the norm...and mind you I'm not talking about our lousy players, just our solid ones.
And I don't want nothing of Burnett, that guy is burnt out and was horrid for Pittsburgh last year.
Did u watch any TB games this year ... i did ... one of thesprtwriters actuallly wrote this in praise of Nassib after about 4 games ... He hasn’t had any sacks or made (can’t remember if it was any or many) tackles but he’s always around the ball .... *LOL* ... He was praising him even though he wasn’t getting any results ... true story ... He’s another one that was way overrated on here ... i remember his rookie year ... he had a 2 sack game and everyone was gushing about him ... when i re-watched the game the QB ran to him on both his sacks ... *L* ... He’s a tweener ... not strong enough to bull rush and not quick enough to get around the edge ... When they played us this year ... was Nassib’s name called even once? ...it may have been but i don’t remember it ... 
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Kindred and Louis are good enough to be on a 1 31 combined team...but bad enough to be let go from a 6 9 1 team thats trending toward possible playoffs.
you cant keep every garbage player arpund.
Louis will be in the AFF soon with other Browns failures.
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http://www.nfl.com/player/carlnassib/2555270/gamelogsHe had two sacks and was talked about quite a bit in that game. We cut him for Anthony Zettel. Anthony. . . . Zettel.
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I agree ... right now it doesn’t make any sense at all ... let the plan play out ... KJ has earned that IMO ...
In the past ... for the last 20 years .. we had various levels of crap running the show .. not anymore ...
I keep telling ya’all ... been saying it since last September ...
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Nassib is only productive if hes unblocked.
reminds me if that one Browns DE who got cut then went to Buffalo....Nate Orchard.
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Maybe Dorsey sees Burris/Whitehead as ascending while Kindred was somewhat maxed out? Better options as depth with the future in mind.
Still not sure I see our starting SS.
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Nassib is only productive if hes unblocked. That is a great quote. Thanks!
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I get that, but I still don't like it. He was at least serviceable. It would seem that the FO and coaching staff disagree.
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I get that, but I still don't like it. He was at least serviceable. It would seem that the FO and coaching staff disagree. Not necessarily. Serviceable might just not be enough any more.
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Hope Dorsey has a plan, LB's and Secondary are getting thin and look to be a weakness at the moment...esp with no 1st round pick to grab a stud LB.
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I'm disappointed that Ogbah is a no-show. I know we will likely move on from him...but I don't like stuff like that. I won't hold it against him. I can't hold it against him. Seems like owners and the front office get a pass on how they do business, but players never get that same respect. I agree. I should have been more clear...I don't like the no-show whether it's his decision or a decision by the team...or even if it's mutual.
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j/c:
A few more thoughts:
--Glad Louis is gone. He stinks. Another blown pick by the previous regime.
--Nassib? LOL, okay.
--Did we sign Higgens? If so, why isn't this being talked about? Or, did I misread that?
--Sad to hear about Ogbah. I don't think he's great, but he would be a guy I would keep as a rotational guy.
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Higgins signed his tender.
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Thanks Pdawg.
What does that mean exactly? Does it mean he will be here this year or can he still sign w/someone else? I'm not up on this part of football.
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He is ours once he signs. I would like to see us try and lock him up long term.
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Thanks.
I'm glad he's going to be here this year. He'll be our 4th guy, but he's been improving each year.
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Surprised to hear Kindred being waived 
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Surprised to hear Kindred being waived He and Dorsey just weren't kindred spirits.
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Surprised to hear Kindred being waived He and Dorsey just weren't kindred spirits.
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I wonder if the Kindred cut is a sign of Wilks wanting better (in this case MUCH, MUCH better) coverage ability from his SS? (Kind of a 'Duh?) But stay with me a sec...
Does that also imply a 'smaller' SS (FS tweener...smaller theoretically meaning better cover-guy) meaning we will see more sets with (3) LBs on the field?
I know that Kindred wasn't special...but cutting him before we had another guy on the 90 is rather odd. If we want to play (3) S's against the Ravens - for instance - we need at least a few more S's on the roster.
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I get that, but I still don't like it. He was at least serviceable. It would seem that the FO and coaching staff disagree. Not necessarily. Serviceable might just not be enough any more. That's a step up. I remember when 'serviceable' meant starter.
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He is ours once he signs. I would like to see us try and lock him up long term. I’m very glad he’s here ... the fact no team even tendered him for a 5th tells me an awful lot about dudes value around the league ... Very happy he’s here ... but like i been saying ... he’s not all that and a bag of chips ... I wonder if he will be or 4th ... that will depend n how Willies, Ratley and Strong pan out ... Higgins may end up our 5th or 6th when its all said and done ...
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He is ours once he signs. I would like to see us try and lock him up long term. I’m very glad he’s here ... the fact no team even tendered him for a 5th tells me an awful lot about dudes value around the league ... Very happy he’s here ... but like i been saying ... he’s not all that and a bag of chips ... I wonder if he will be or 4th ... that will depend n how Willies, Ratley and Strong pan out ... Higgins may end up our 5th or 6th when its all said and done ... C'mon Man! Teams didn't tender the guy because they would only be doing JD's work for him. No way JD was letting that guy get away. Higgins is exactly the 3rd WR that has been kicking our butts for decades now.
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It's not a head-scratcher... it's an eyebrow-raiser.
They don't do things without a plan, so this *should* be triggering your brain to ask "What's coming?"
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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I get that, but I still don't like it. He was at least serviceable. It would seem that the FO and coaching staff disagree. Not necessarily. Serviceable might just not be enough any more. Here is the problem with that statement. Kindred seemed to make strides in 2017, but he took a step backwards last season. I think that is never a good indicator going forward ... Thus he is no longer a Brown.
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I don't think anyone has a problem with cutting Kindred, I think the problem is cutting him without a guy on the roster already to take his place. We don't even have a back up let alone a starter at the position right now - seems odd to cut a guy without a guarantee of a replacement.
Last I checked, Berry and/or boston have not signed.
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The #Steelers have finally released S Morgan Burnett, who requested his release a few months ago.
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I would be surprised if we signed a 31 year old safety but he graded out well last season per PFF.
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My question is why now? Why not before FA started so that he had a much better chance to get picked up?
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J/C - this is a head scratcher considering the dearth of depth we have at safety. However, I agree with what Vers said - Dorsey has to have a plan in play here. I wish Kindred well - tough as nails, old school safety who was great between the hashes for us.
We have to got to be looking at at least 2 DBs in the draft - CB and a safety. I don't like creating needs this close to the draft though.
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He is ours once he signs. I would like to see us try and lock him up long term. I’m very glad he’s here ... the fact no team even tendered him for a 5th tells me an awful lot about dudes value around the league ... Very happy he’s here ... but like i been saying ... he’s not all that and a bag of chips ... I wonder if he will be or 4th ... that will depend n how Willies, Ratley and Strong pan out ... Higgins may end up our 5th or 6th when its all said and done ... C'mon Man! Teams didn't tender the guy because they would only be doing JD's work for him. No way JD was letting that guy get away. Higgins is exactly the 3rd WR that has been kicking our butts for decades now. Bro ... practice squad WR’s have been kicking our butts for the past two decades... *L* ...
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My question is why now? Why not before FA started so that he had a much better chance to get picked up? Trying to get something in trade most likely. Market apparently not there, though.
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I don't understand where everyone thinks Kindred is way overrated. I don't think anyone called him a hall of famer or the league's best safety, but he definitely has value and was a good player for us.
Kindred was one of our best defensive players in 2017, and yes, I understand that's not saying much. He lead all DBs in tackles for a loss before he left with injury that year. He's one of the reasons why we were proud of our run stuffing defense that we hadn't seen in years.
Kindred is who he is. He will catch on with another team and play well. I'm not surprised, however, that some want to use this in support of their cause... It's nice that we actually have good players to be upset about leaving again.
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Yet his value in a trade was zero. I think it's the NFL that actually sets the value on a player.
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Yet his value in a trade was zero. I'm going to assume you made this up.
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Yet his value in a trade was zero. I'm going to assume you made this up. Word is that we tried to trade him but there were no takers. If that is the case, then he had no trade value.
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Common sense says you always try to trade a player if you think you can get anything for him. If you can't you move on. Even Diam's math can figure this one out.
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Yet his value in a trade was zero. I'm going to assume you made this up. Word is that we tried to trade him but there were no takers. If that is the case, then he had no trade value. No. I don't agree that's what that means.
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