DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus So what do you all think about the Biden 'Me too' situation?

She didn't feel sexually assaulted, she just felt that his touchy feely show of support was over the top because he was a powerful man and she never wanted him to act that way toward her but felt like she couldn't call him out. Not assault, just completely inappropriate.

So do you think this is an attack to keep him from running from the progressives, which she is? Or do you agree that this rises to the level of being disqualifying? Is it really assault even though she is downplaying that? Or is it not a big deal at all?

I personally can see how he made her extremely uncomfortable. I don't think he would lean in with his hands on the shoulders and kiss the head of a male candidate. Yet Biden has always been this guy with his heart on his sleeve. I also think this coming out now, if he handles it right (which it looks like he's trying to do), will only make him a bit stronger in the primaries/general because it takes it off the table for later attacks. Or does it?

I hope biden stays out of the race. But I don't base that feeling in any way on this news.

This is nonsense, all of it.

I like how the other stuff, blackface, actually sexual assault allegations go away, but this garbage is front page CNN.

Biden isn't CNN's or WAPO's candidate.

lol, exactly

Whatever... did he grab her ______?

her ______?

Stephanie Carter, Wife Of Obama Defense Secretary, Says Biden Photo Is 'Misleading'

Stephanie Carter, whose husband is former Defense Secretary Ash Carter, rejected claims that a 2015 photo of her and then-Vice President Joe Biden shows inappropriate behavior and said the image was “misleadingly extracted” from a video.

Carter, in an essay published Sunday on Medium headlined “The #MeToo Story That Wasn’t Me,” said she wanted to “reclaim” the story of the photo, which shows Biden behind her, resting his hands on her shoulders and whispering into her ear. The picture was taken during Ash Carter’s White House swearing-in ceremony.

Biden, who reportedly plans a 2020 presidential run, has faced renewed scrutiny for his conduct with women since former Nevada assembly member Lucy Flores’ essay was published Friday in New York magazine’s The Cut, alleging that Biden inappropriately kissed her during her 2014 campaign for lieutenant governor. The claim revived Biden’s history of questionable public interactions with women and mixed record on women’s issues.

Then-Vice President Joe Biden with Stephanie Carter during Defense Secretary Ash Carter's swearing-in ceremony on Feb. 17, 2015.
“I absolutely support her right to speak her truth and she should be, like all women, believed,” Carter wrote of Flores’ claim. “But her story is not mine. The Joe Biden in my picture is a close friend helping someone get through a big day, for which I will always be grateful. So, as the sole owner of my story, it is high time that I reclaim it — from strangers, Twitter, the pundits and the late-night hosts.”

Carter said her photo with Biden shows a gesture of “support” after she became rattled during her husband’s ceremony.

“He could sense I was uncharacteristically nervous — and quickly gave me a hug. After the swearing in, as Ash was giving remarks, he leaned in to tell me ‘thank you for letting him do this’ and kept his hands on my shoulders as a means of offering his support,” she wrote. “But a still shot taken from a video — misleadingly extracted from what was a longer moment between close friends — sent out in a snarky tweet — came to be the lasting image of that day.”

Flores mentioned the photo in her essay as an example of Biden “getting uncomfortably close with women and young girls.”

Biden responded to Flores in a statement Sunday, saying that “not once — never — did I believe I acted inappropriately. If it is suggested I did so, I will listen respectfully.”

Read Carter’s full essay here.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/stephanie-carter-wife-obama-defense-125503951.html

Of all people to give someone a pass for creepy behavior Spiral might be the most hypocritical.


He meant "Grab her by the _"

It's only further proof of what I've been saying all along. Democrats will destroy themselves. Even when it comes to their own they're nothing more than political cannibals.

He’s a creep.

Yes, what he did was just SO terrible! lmao

He's always been kinda like the creepy grandpa, but this whole smear job is ridiculous.

Only reason this is coming our now is his candidacy.

It has to be taken seriously, but he's had no history of this kind of think.. Usually, when someone is hit with a "me too" story, its one in a long line,, Like Trump for instance..

But Joe just seem to be that time of guy.. I just don't see it.

They also called him a racist yet they make no mention of his bring the VP to the first Black President.

This looks like a bit of a smear campaign... At least I hope so..

Get used to it. It's what American politics has become, and it will grow, and grow.

J/C

google creepy joe biden, there are multiples shots of him smelling little girls and other womens hair, placing his hands on hips of girls and women, etc.

Hes a creep.

Does he promote grabbing them by the.....?

My Mom had a term for guys like Joe: "handsy."

I think he's a bit on the creepy side, but probably harmless. I don't think he would ever fondle a woman or force a kiss down her throat... but I've seen enough of those pics to know that he draws his personal line in a different place than I do.

Lol .... it’s not like Biden is screwing them and paying hush money to cover it all up. But whatever. Continue the smear.

GOPers have no capacity for empathy, peace, and love. Creepy as some think that is. That’s what Joe Biden is all about.

You do understand that Lucy Flores, the person accusing him of this, is a Democrat, right?

I see you do, though.

He did give all the GOP sheep the biggest gift yet. the “Biden Rule”. But please continue your smear.

I’m guessing a few of the 19 or so women who have accused trump of inappropriate sexual advances are republicans.

This is sailing right over your head. Most of the right leaning people here think this is ridiculous. Only two people here smeared him for it, and one of them was Rocket.

j/c:

Smelling? Seriously, That's what you call that? You are the problem..

Joe has always been a hugger. He's always shown affection. Genuine Affection. he's that kinda guy.. Now you have two woman coming forward saying he made them unconfortable but neither of them are asserting he accosted them or Groped them..

At least Joe doesn't go around bragging about grabbing woman by the Pxxxy or cheating on his wife with his next wife.... TWICE

I like how the left in this thread are acting like it's the right trying to smear Biden. Um, no. Every initial report of this I saw was from CNN, Wapo etc.


Then framing creepy behavior as affectionate. COME ON, I love how you can call a spade a spade with Trump being a porn star paying creep bag but Biden is just affectionate......unbelievable. Sure Biden isn't nefarious like Trumps transgressions but "affectionate"???? He's a creeper in every sense of the word, even if that is just his ways of being affectionate.

Even with that said, the smear campaign (which this certainly is), you reap what you sew, as leftist when you want to claim everything is sexual assault, this is what you get, nonsense. BELIEVE ALL VICTIMS!

Since it's the left that trying hard to get this guy to not announce for the election, I'm wanting creepy uncle joe to get in to see how far he can go.

So the old, pasty white guys are leading. That's comical all by itself.

The fact that Beto has 10% is despicable, that guy is a moron.

Yes smelling. Watch a video and you will see. The dude smells women and kids hair all the time. The problem is you.

So where did he smell her hair? he was talking about his granddaughters, he was being a granddad... he was typical Joe... It wasn't anything bad there... NOT A DAMN THING

YOU ARE THE PROBLEM....

No bro, it's been reported that he does that, smells hair. lol smh

I think Joe is the problem, and unless you enjoy smelling and touching others, it maybe your problem too.

Not even directly talking about the Biden head kissing thing, but kind of a general comment, and this applys to both sides and the media, whether it is Fox, CNN, or whatever , left or right propaganda networks.

But it saddens me that this is what politics has become. Its no longer about candidates and their stance on issues. Its just all about fake ,hypocritical attempts to tear others down.

When you give the mob a platform to voice their opinions, their opinions are almost always voiced in a negative fashion. People's actions suggest they think the loudest voice wins.

Viva La Internet...

The way his actions apparently make the one receiving them uncomfortable makes me uncomfortable, regardless of his intentions. Tightened shoulders, pulling/leaning away, frozen expressions; they give me pause.

The "nice guys" are the pedophiles you need to worry about. Not to say that he is one, but the type exists, and are the ones that tend to get away with it for longer periods of time.

Patting/squeezing a shoulder is one thing. "Caressing" (someone else's) kids is something else. While it can be a fine line, that looks closer to the latter to me.

Is this the standard now? As long as it's not as bad as something on the other side, then it's ok?

My guess, Biden is a bit of a creepy "touchy" old dude but generally harmless.

Ever been watching something that's recorded and hit the pause button and just happen to get a really weird shot or facial expression on the pause? Well, it's kind of like that if you are famous and so much of what you do is photographed or captured on video... it becomes very easy to take a snapshot in time and take it totally out of context and make it look worse (or even better) than it really was..

Biden doesn't have a snowballs chance in he!! anyway...

The same thing happened just two years ago with the republicans. Not only did that guy run, he got elected president!